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== DAQ PC Configurations ==
== DAQ PC Configurations ==
=== Buying from newegg.ca ===
* select "shipped by newegg"
* select "ship from country: Canada"


=== Standard components ===
=== Standard components ===
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==== Fans ====
==== Fans ====


* 4pin PWM 120mm fan: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=24331&vpn=ACF12PWM&manufacture=Arctic%20Cooling
* long life time (150'000 hrs) 4pin PWM 120mm fan:
* 3pin/molex+tachometer ball bearing 120mm fan (low noise): http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=35020&vpn=D1225C12B5AP-15&manufacture=Scythe&promoid=1268
** http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=24331&vpn=ACF12PWM&manufacture=Arctic%20Cooling
** http://www.ncix.com/detail/noctua-nf-s12a-pwm-120mm-ultra-7e-79672.htm
* long life time (150'000 hrs) 3pin (non-PWM) 120mm fan:
** http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=35020&vpn=D1225C12B5AP-15&manufacture=Scythe&promoid=1268
** http://www.ncix.com/detail/noctua-nf-s12a-flx-120mm-ultra-b4-79670.htm


==== Power supplies ====
==== Power supplies ====


* high power: Antec Neo Eco 450C 450W http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=60491&vpn=NEO-ECO450C&manufacture=Antec&promoid=1210
Power supply requirements:
* low power: Seasonic SS-350ET 350W http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=75778&vpn=SS-350ET-1YR&manufacture=Seasonic%20Electronics and http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=30144&vpn=SS-350ET&manufacture=Seasonic%20Electronics
* 120mm cooling fan (longer life, better air flow vs small fans)
* ActivePFC (no 110/220V switch, high power factor is required for use with UPSes)
* 4 or more SATA power connectors


==== SSD ====
==== SSD ====


* TBA
* M.2 PCIe SSD not recommended, if there is a glitch, PCIe bus hangs, computer stops without error messages, impossible to debug. also not clear how to recover data from this type of SSD if mobo dies.
* SATA: WD blue 250GB, 500GB, 1TB, 2TB
* M.2 SATA: WD blue
* (obsolete) SATA: Kingston V200, V200+, V300 - 60GB, 120GB
* (obsolete) M.2: (proposed) Kingston SSDNow M.2 2280 120GB http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104482
 
=== Version 2022-Dec AMD DDR5 PC ===
 
(still current as of 2023-Sep, 2024-Jan, 2024-May)


==== Obsolete items ====
Notes:
* use 65W CPU for normal air cooled box
** 100W CPU could be air cooled, with difficulties
** above 100W CPU must be water cooled
* use B650/X670 chipset, avoid mobo with small chipset cooling fan (sometimes they hide it)
* count available PCIe slots:
** often only 1 x16 slot wired for pcie x16
** often 2 x16-size slots wired for 1x16 or 2x8 (if both are in use)
** often additional x16 slot is wired for x4
** x1 slots can be used for ethernet or video card
* standard DDR5 DRAM includes on-chip ECC and is called "non-ECC RAM"
* DDR5 ECC DRAM memory has additional lanes for on-CPU ECC. CPU and mobo must say "ECC supported", i.e. AMD 7700X and Supermicro mobo
* how to select DDR5 modules:
* choose speed supported by CPU:
** https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-ryzen-7-7700 says DDR5-5200, yes ECC
** https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/desktops/ryzen/7000-series/amd-ryzen-7-7700x.html says DDR5-5200, yes ECC
** https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/desktops/ryzen/8000-series/amd-ryzen-7-8700g.html says DDR5-5200, no ECC
* choose minimum voltage and CAS latency, i.e.
* typical 1.1V DDR5-5200 has CAS40
* typical 1.25V DDR5-5200 has CAS36
* typical 1.30V is DDR5-6000
* typical 1.35V is DDR5-5600 and 6000
* typical 1.4V is DDR5-6000
* chosen GSKill DDR5 modules are DDR5-5600 CAS36 1.25V actually run at 1.1V
* WD Blue SA510 series SSDs are not as good as previous WD Blue series: always report 0 power-on hours, on busy machines (dsdaqgw) seem to be actually wearing out. We should try the WD Red series.


* 3pin/molex ball bearing 120mm fan (no PWM): http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=18432&vpn=PRO%20120MM%20DBB&manufacture=Antec
Notes:
* for add-on 10gige NIC, use Intel X710-DA2 or Intel X710-BM2 (I struggle to find the differences between the two part numbers)


=== Version 2012-OCT-4 Intel Socket 2011 ===
Parts list:
* $450 AMD 7700 8-Core 3.8/5.3 GHz 65W DDR5-5200 https://www.newegg.ca/amd-ryzen-7-7700/p/N82E16819113786?Item=N82E16819113786
* $300->$250 ASUS Prime B650-PLUS (PCIe x16,x4,x1,x1) https://www.newegg.ca/asus-prime-b650-plus/p/N82E16813119607?Item=N82E16813119607
* $400->$190 2x32GB,DDR5-5200,36-36-36-83,1.25V (actual 1.1V) https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-64gb/p/N82E16820374440?Item=N82E16820374440
* $65 500W P.S. https://www.newegg.ca/thermaltake-smart-500w-ps-spd-0500npcwus-w/p/N82E16817153233?Item=N82E16817153233
* $90 2x WD Blue 250GB SA5 SSD https://www.newegg.ca/western-digital-250gb-blue-sa510/p/N82E16820250227
* large case compatible with water cooling https://www.newegg.ca/black-antec-performance-series-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811129242?Item=N82E16811129242


* Mobo: ASUS P9X79 WS (dual-Intel GigE): http://ca.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_2011/P9X79_WS/#specifications http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=66066&vpn=P9X79%20WS&manufacture=ASUS&promoid=1259
=== Version 2022-Aug AMD reduced cost PC ===
* CPU: Intel i7-3820: http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=68691&vpn=BX80619i73820&manufacture=Intel
 
* CPU cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo (very high profile, fits the Sonata case) http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=64385
Differences from "big PC":
* CPU cooler: (NOTE: this cooler is very low profile and obstructs some memory slots) http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=67626&vpn=SCBSK-2100&manufacture=Scythe
* cheapest 5000-series "G" CPU
* non-ECC memory
* small size motherboard
 
Notes:
* use B550 chipset (X570 runs hot, requires short-life small cooling fan. avoid)
* use AMD "5000X" CPUs for ECC memory support ("5000G" CPUs are missing Linux ECC drivers)
* use 1.2V DDR4 SDRAM. current size is 2x 32GB (dual-channel memory)
 
Parts:
* $250 https://www.newegg.ca/amd-ryzen-5-5600g-ryzen-5-5000-g-series/p/N82E16819113683
* $300 https://www.newegg.ca/team-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820331582?Item=N82E16820331582
* $210 https://www.newegg.ca/asus-tuf-gaming-b550m-plus-wifi-ii/p/N82E16813119569?Item=N82E16813119569
* 2x$55 https://www.newegg.ca/western-digital-250gb-blue-sa510/p/N82E16820250227?Item=N82E16820250227
* $70 https://www.newegg.ca/rosewill-arc-series-arc-550-continuous-550w-40-degree-c/p/N82E16817182297?Item=N82E16817182297
* $0 chassis (reuse existing)
* total: 250+300+210+2*55+70 = 940
 
=== Version 2021-Sep AMD big PC ===
 
* use B550 chipset (X570 runs hot, requires short-life small cooling fan. avoid)
* use AMD "5000X" CPUs for ECC memory support ("5000G" CPUs are missing Linux ECC drivers)
 
* https://www.newegg.ca/amd-ryzen-7-5700g-ryzen-7-5000-g-series/p/N82E16819113682
* https://www.newegg.ca/asus-rog-strix-b550-xe-gaming-wifi/p/N82E16813119363
* https://www.newegg.ca/p/1X5-003Z-018J2
* https://www.newegg.ca/western-digital-blue-250gb/p/N82E16820250086
* https://www.newegg.ca/antec-vp-plus-series-vp550-plus-550w/p/N82E16817371113?Item=N82E16817371113
 
* AMD Ryzen 7 5700G 8-Core Processor with graphics
* mobo ASUS ROG STRIX B550-XE GAMING
* 2x32GB DDR4-3200 RAM (64GB total with 2 empty slots to add more later)
* ECC memory is recommended, NEMIX RAM always available on newegg.ca
* dual SATA SSD for OS (Ubuntu LTS 20.04, install on ZFS)
* dual HDDs as needed
 
=== Version 2021-Jan AMD big PC ===
 
* AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor
* mobo ASUS ROG STRIX B550-E GAMING
* 2x32GB DDR4-3200 RAM (64GB total with 2 empty slots to add more later)
* ECC memory is recommended, but availability and price not clear
* dual SATA SSD for OS (Ubuntu LTS 20.04)
* dual HDDs as needed
 
=== Version 2019-July-05 Reduced Cost PC ===
 
Purchased for MUSR DAQ refresh. $900 per machine.
 
* mobo: ASUS TUF Z390M-Pro
* CPU: Intel i5-9400 2.9GHz 65W
* RAM: DDR4-3200
* P.S.: Thermaltake 500W
* Case: Antec VSK3000 Elite MicroATX minitower
 
=== Version 2018-June-29 Intel Socket 1151 ===
 
Recently bought three new DAQ computers from ELCO, with following MOBO and CPU
 
* MOBO: ASUS TUF Z370 Plus Gaming LGA 1151 ATX
* CPU: Intel Core i7-8700 LGA1151 (3.20GHz, L3:12M, Hex Core, TDP: 65W)
* RAM: DDR4-2667
 
Full quote available [https://www.triumf.info/wiki/DAQwiki/index.php/Image:Quote_3078.pdf here].
 
=== Version ??? Intel Socket 1151 ===
 
* Mobo: Z270
* Mobo: Z170
* RAM: DDR4
 
=== Version 2017-01-17 Reduced Cost PC ===
 
$700 per machine
 
* CPU: Intel i3-7100 CPU @ 3.90GHz
* Mobo: ASUS H110M-A/M.2
* RAM: single 16GB DIMM DDR4-2133
* SSD: Kingston 120GB SATA M.2
* P.S.: Thermaltake TR2 500W
* Chassis: Antec VSK3000E-U3 minitower
 
=== Version 2015-NOV-17 Intel Socket 1151 ===
 
* this is the new standard DAQ PC replacing the socket 1150 DAQ PC. Improvement: max of 64GB RAM (vs 32GB on Z87/Z97), max 2 monitors (vs 3 on Z87/Z97)
* price: mobo($400) + CPU($300) + RAM ($600 for 64GB) + SSD ($75 for 120GB) + storage ($xxx for dual mirrored 6TB) = $1500 + storage.
* Mobo: ASUS Z170-DELUXE CAD$400 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132568 https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboards/Z170-DELUXE/
* CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 6M Quad-Core 3.3 GHz (no ECC) http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117562 http://ark.intel.com/products/88188/Intel-Core-i5-6600-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz
* Case1: Antec Sonata III 500: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=24294&vpn=SONATA%20III%20500&manufacture=Antec&promoid=1285
* Case2: Antec Sonata Proto (no power supply) http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=52550&vpn=SONATA%20PROTO&manufacture=Antec, add high power power supply from list above.
* SSD storage: KINGSTON SM2280S3120G http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104482&cm_re=KINGSTON_SM2280S3120G-_-20-104-482-_-Product
* SSD storage: Kingston SM2280S3G2/120G M.2 2280 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=2BN-001M-00010
* Storage: 2x 6TB in fully mirrored (RAID1) configuration: (use cheapest available NAS 6TB disks, i.e. WD "red" or "purple")
* RAM: 32GB: use cheapest kit of 2x16GB DDR4 - CAD$300 - http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231965
* RAM: 64GB: use cheapest kit of 4x16GB DDR4 - CAD$600 - http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231968
* Cooling fans: replace stock short-life-time fans with new long-life-time fans, see list above.
* Instructions for mounting cooling fans: remove stock short-life-time fans, mount replacement fans for air flow from back to front of the case: 1 rear case fan, 1 front mounted fan blowing on the hard drives. Remove front air filter, duct-tape shut all rear, side and bottom air holes - air flow should be: rear fan pushes air into computer, front fan pushes air into hard disk enclosure, out of computer through the front of the case where the air filter used to be.
 
=== Version 2014-DEC-8 Intel Socket 1150 ===
 
* this is the new standard DAQ PC replacing the socket 2011 DAQ PC. Improvement: no need for external video card - this permits mounting in 2U and 3U chassis, on board support for 3 large LCD monitors, use latest Intel CPUs. Drawback: 32GB RAM max instead of 64GB RAM, dual-channel ram instead of quad-channel RAM.
* price: $840 + RAM ($370 for 32GB) + SSD ($75 for 120GB) + storage ($400 for dual mirrored 4TB) = $1700.
* Mobo: ASUS Z97 WS http://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboards/Z97WS http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132126
* CPU: Intel i7-4790K http://ark.intel.com/products/80807 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117369
* Case1: Antec Sonata III 500: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=24294&vpn=SONATA%20III%20500&manufacture=Antec&promoid=1285
* Case2: Antec Sonata Proto (no power supply) http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=52550&vpn=SONATA%20PROTO&manufacture=Antec, add high power power supply from list above.
* SSD storage: use SSD from list above. (Possible to use "M.2 Socket 3 with M Key" SSD, see mobo manual)
* Storage: 2x 4TB in fully mirrored (RAID1) configuration: (use cheapest available 4TB disks)
* RAM: use cheapest (32GB) kit of 4x8GB DDR3-1600 RAM: http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=65663&vpn=F3-12800CL10Q-32GBZL&manufacture=G%2ESkill http://www.ncix.com/detail/g-skill-ripjawsz-f3-12800cl10q-32gbzl-32gb-4x8gb-dc-65663.htm
* Video card: none, using Intel on-CPU video
* Cooling fans: (replace stock short-life-time fans) - 2 per PC - http://www.ncix.com/detail/noctua-nf-s12a-flx-120mm-ultra-b4-79670.htm
* Instructions for mounting cooling fans: remove stock short-life-time fans, mount replacement fans for air flow from back to front of the case: 1 rear case fan, 1 front mounted fan blowing on the hard drives. Remove front air filter, duct-tape shut all rear, side and bottom air holes - air flow should be: rear fan pushes air into computer, front fan pushes air into hard disk enclosure, out of computer through the front of the case where the air filter used to be.
* (to be updated) Cooling fans note: ASUS Z87 WS motherboard requires use of non-PWM fans. The 4-pin fan headers do not provide PWM fan control - see mobo manual - pwm pin is hardwired to +5V. Only the 4-pin fan header CPU_OPT has PWM control - connect a PWM fan (4-pin connector) - but it will run at same speed as the main CPU fan.
 
=== Version 2014-May-07 Reduced cost PC ===
 
* this replaces the specs for the E-350/E-450 reduced cost PC
* total price around $235 + RAM ($190) + SSD ($75) = $500
* Mobo:  ASUS AM1M-A - http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AM1MA http://www.ncix.com/detail/asus-am1m-a-matx-am1-ddr3-47-96120.htm http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA7RD2WU4767
* CPU: AMD Athlon 5350 2GHz - http://www.ncix.com/detail/amd-athlon-5350-am1-2-0ghz-ef-95079-1308.htm http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113364
* RAM: cheapest DDR3-1600 2x8GB or 4x8GB kit - http://www.ncix.com/detail/g-skill-ripjawsz-f3-12800cl10q-32gbzl-32gb-4x8gb-dc-65663.htm
* Case: MicroATX with provision for side-mounted 120mm fan - http://www.ncix.com/detail/fractal-design-core-1000-matx-54-81159.htm http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352032
* Power supply: Cheapest with 120mm fan and active PFC - http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=30144&vpn=SS-350ET&manufacture=Seasonic%20Electronics
* Cooling fan: extra-long-life 120mm PWM fan - http://www.ncix.com/detail/noctua-nf-s12a-pwm-120mm-ultra-7e-79672.htm
* Storage: Kingston 120GB SSD - http://www.ncix.com/detail/kingston-ssdnow-v300-120gb-2-5in-8c-78078-1078.htm
 
=== Version 2014-MAY-8 Intel Socket 1150 ===
 
* this is the new standard DAQ PC replacing the socket 2011 DAQ PC. Improvement: no need for external video card - this permits mounting in 2U and 3U chassis, on board support for 3 large LCD monitors, use latest Intel CPUs. Drawback: 32GB RAM max instead of 64GB RAM, dual-channel ram instead of quad-channel RAM.
* price: $840 + RAM ($370 for 32GB) + SSD ($75 for 120GB) + storage ($400 for dual mirrored 4TB) = $1700.
* Mobo: ASUS Z87 WS http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z87WS/#specifications http://www.ncix.com/detail/asus-motherboard-z87-ws-core-i7-i5-i3-ca-2222138415.htm
* CPU: Intel i7-4770 http://ark.intel.com/products/75122/Intel-Core-i7-4770-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz http://products.ncix.com/detail/intel-core-i7-4770-quad-core-3-4ghz-processor-lga1150-haswell-8mb-cache-retail-86-81326.htm
* Case1: Antec Sonata III 500: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=24294&vpn=SONATA%20III%20500&manufacture=Antec&promoid=1285
* Case1: Antec Sonata III 500: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=24294&vpn=SONATA%20III%20500&manufacture=Antec&promoid=1285
* Case2: Antec Sonata Proto (no power supply) http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=52550&vpn=SONATA%20PROTO&manufacture=Antec, add high power power supply from list above.
* Case2: Antec Sonata Proto (no power supply) http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=52550&vpn=SONATA%20PROTO&manufacture=Antec, add high power power supply from list above.
* SSD storage: use SSD from list above. Or use mSATA SSD in the mSATA slot (remember to move the jumper switch per mobo manual).
* Storage: 2x 4TB in fully mirrored (RAID1) configuration: (use cheapest available 4TB disks)
* RAM: 1 (32GB) kit of 4x8GB DDR3-1600 RAM : http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=65663&vpn=F3-12800CL10Q-32GBZL&manufacture=G%2ESkill http://www.ncix.com/detail/g-skill-ripjawsz-f3-12800cl10q-32gbzl-32gb-4x8gb-dc-65663.htm
* Video card: none, using Intel on-CPU video
* Cooling fans: (replace stock short-life-time fans) - 2 per PC - http://www.ncix.com/detail/noctua-nf-s12a-flx-120mm-ultra-b4-79670.htm
* Instructions for mounting cooling fans: remove stock short-life-time fans, mount replacement fans for air flow from back to front of the case: 1 rear case fan, 1 front mounted fan blowing on the hard drives. Remove front air filter, duct-tape shut all rear, side and bottom air holes - air flow should be: rear fan pushes air into computer, front fan pushes air into hard disk enclosure, out of computer through the front of the case where the air filter used to be.
* Cooling fans note: ASUS Z87 WS motherboard requires use of non-PWM fans. The 4-pin fan headers do not provide PWM fan control - see mobo manual - pwm pin is hardwired to +5V. Only the 4-pin fan header CPU_OPT has PWM control - connect a PWM fan (4-pin connector) - but it will run at same speed as the main CPU fan.
=== Version 2014-MAY-8 Intel Socket 2011 ===
* High end machine with 64 GB RAM max, total price: $1100 + RAM ($370/32GB) + storage ($400 for 2x4TB disks) = $1900
* Mobo: ASUS P9X79 WS (dual-Intel GigE): http://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboards/P9X79_WS/#specifications http://ca.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_2011/P9X79_WS/#specifications http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=66066&vpn=P9X79%20WS&manufacture=ASUS&promoid=1259
* CPU: Intel i7-4820k: http://products.ncix.com/detail/intel-core-i7-4820k-quad-core-3-7ghz-3-9ghz-turbo-10mb-hyperthreading-lga2011-processor-no-hsf-e2-89509-1019.htm
* CPU cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo (very high profile, fits the Sonata case) http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=64385
* CPU cooler for rackmounted use: (NOTE: this cooler is very low profile and obstructs some memory slots) http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=67626&vpn=SCBSK-2100&manufacture=Scythe
* Case: Antec Sonata III 500: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=24294&vpn=SONATA%20III%20500&manufacture=Antec&promoid=1285
* SSD storage (system disk only, no data storage): use cheapest available Kingston V100 or V200 SSD size 32GB or bigger : http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=65084&vpn=SV100S2%2F32G&manufacture=Kingston http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=67531&vpn=SVP200S3%2F60G&manufacture=Kingston&promoid=1230
* SSD storage (system disk only, no data storage): use cheapest available Kingston V100 or V200 SSD size 32GB or bigger : http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=65084&vpn=SV100S2%2F32G&manufacture=Kingston http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=67531&vpn=SVP200S3%2F60G&manufacture=Kingston&promoid=1230
* Storage: 2x 3TB in fully mirrored (RAID1) configuration: (use cheapest available 3TB disks) http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=62178&vpn=WD30EZRX&manufacture=Western%20Digital%20WD
* Storage: 2x 3TB in fully mirrored (RAID1) configuration: (use cheapest available 3TB disks) http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=62178&vpn=WD30EZRX&manufacture=Western%20Digital%20WD
* Storage: 2x 4TB in fully mirrored (RAID1) configuration: (use cheapest available 4TB disks): http://www.ncix.com/detail/western-digital-green-4tb-sata3-b3-90788-1078.htm
* RAM: 1 (32GB) or 2 (64GB) kits of 4x8GB DDR3-1600 RAM : http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=65663&vpn=F3-12800CL10Q-32GBZL&manufacture=G%2ESkill
* RAM: 1 (32GB) or 2 (64GB) kits of 4x8GB DDR3-1600 RAM : http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=65663&vpn=F3-12800CL10Q-32GBZL&manufacture=G%2ESkill
* Video card: PCIe VGA+DVI+HDMI MSI GeForce 210 (silent, no fan): http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=59244&vpn=EN210%20SILENT%2FDI%2F1GD3%2FV2%28LP%29&manufacture=ASUS
* Video card: PCIe VGA+DVI+HDMI fan-less: http://products.ncix.com/detail/asus-geforce-gt-610-fanless-810mhz-2gb-1200mhz-gddr3-dvi-hdmi-vga-pci-e-video-card-73-75560.htm
* replacement for stock cooling fans, 2 per computer (1 rear case fan, 1 front disk drive fan, mount for air flow back to front of computer - rear fan pushes air into computer, front fan pushes air into hard disk enclosure, out of computer; remove stock Sonata3 fan, remove front air filter, duck-tape clkosed all rear and side case openings - except for rear fan intake and front fan exhaust through front panel louvers) : for fans, use PWM or non-PWM fans from list above.
* replacement for stock cooling fans, 2 per computer (1 rear case fan, 1 front disk drive fan, mount for air flow back to front of computer - rear fan pushes air into computer, front fan pushes air into hard disk enclosure, out of computer; remove stock Sonata3 fan, remove front air filter, duck-tape clkosed all rear and side case openings - except for rear fan intake and front fan exhaust through front panel louvers) : for fans, use PWM or non-PWM fans from list above.


Latest revision as of 08:53, 14 May 2024

DAQ PC Configurations

Buying from newegg.ca

  • select "shipped by newegg"
  • select "ship from country: Canada"

Standard components

Fans

Power supplies

Power supply requirements:

  • 120mm cooling fan (longer life, better air flow vs small fans)
  • ActivePFC (no 110/220V switch, high power factor is required for use with UPSes)
  • 4 or more SATA power connectors

SSD

  • M.2 PCIe SSD not recommended, if there is a glitch, PCIe bus hangs, computer stops without error messages, impossible to debug. also not clear how to recover data from this type of SSD if mobo dies.
  • SATA: WD blue 250GB, 500GB, 1TB, 2TB
  • M.2 SATA: WD blue
  • (obsolete) SATA: Kingston V200, V200+, V300 - 60GB, 120GB
  • (obsolete) M.2: (proposed) Kingston SSDNow M.2 2280 120GB http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104482

Version 2022-Dec AMD DDR5 PC

(still current as of 2023-Sep, 2024-Jan, 2024-May)

Notes:

  • use 65W CPU for normal air cooled box
    • 100W CPU could be air cooled, with difficulties
    • above 100W CPU must be water cooled
  • use B650/X670 chipset, avoid mobo with small chipset cooling fan (sometimes they hide it)
  • count available PCIe slots:
    • often only 1 x16 slot wired for pcie x16
    • often 2 x16-size slots wired for 1x16 or 2x8 (if both are in use)
    • often additional x16 slot is wired for x4
    • x1 slots can be used for ethernet or video card
  • standard DDR5 DRAM includes on-chip ECC and is called "non-ECC RAM"
  • DDR5 ECC DRAM memory has additional lanes for on-CPU ECC. CPU and mobo must say "ECC supported", i.e. AMD 7700X and Supermicro mobo
  • how to select DDR5 modules:
  • choose speed supported by CPU:
  • choose minimum voltage and CAS latency, i.e.
  • typical 1.1V DDR5-5200 has CAS40
  • typical 1.25V DDR5-5200 has CAS36
  • typical 1.30V is DDR5-6000
  • typical 1.35V is DDR5-5600 and 6000
  • typical 1.4V is DDR5-6000
  • chosen GSKill DDR5 modules are DDR5-5600 CAS36 1.25V actually run at 1.1V
  • WD Blue SA510 series SSDs are not as good as previous WD Blue series: always report 0 power-on hours, on busy machines (dsdaqgw) seem to be actually wearing out. We should try the WD Red series.

Notes:

  • for add-on 10gige NIC, use Intel X710-DA2 or Intel X710-BM2 (I struggle to find the differences between the two part numbers)

Parts list:

Version 2022-Aug AMD reduced cost PC

Differences from "big PC":

  • cheapest 5000-series "G" CPU
  • non-ECC memory
  • small size motherboard

Notes:

  • use B550 chipset (X570 runs hot, requires short-life small cooling fan. avoid)
  • use AMD "5000X" CPUs for ECC memory support ("5000G" CPUs are missing Linux ECC drivers)
  • use 1.2V DDR4 SDRAM. current size is 2x 32GB (dual-channel memory)

Parts:

Version 2021-Sep AMD big PC

  • use B550 chipset (X570 runs hot, requires short-life small cooling fan. avoid)
  • use AMD "5000X" CPUs for ECC memory support ("5000G" CPUs are missing Linux ECC drivers)
  • AMD Ryzen 7 5700G 8-Core Processor with graphics
  • mobo ASUS ROG STRIX B550-XE GAMING
  • 2x32GB DDR4-3200 RAM (64GB total with 2 empty slots to add more later)
  • ECC memory is recommended, NEMIX RAM always available on newegg.ca
  • dual SATA SSD for OS (Ubuntu LTS 20.04, install on ZFS)
  • dual HDDs as needed

Version 2021-Jan AMD big PC

  • AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor
  • mobo ASUS ROG STRIX B550-E GAMING
  • 2x32GB DDR4-3200 RAM (64GB total with 2 empty slots to add more later)
  • ECC memory is recommended, but availability and price not clear
  • dual SATA SSD for OS (Ubuntu LTS 20.04)
  • dual HDDs as needed

Version 2019-July-05 Reduced Cost PC

Purchased for MUSR DAQ refresh. $900 per machine.

  • mobo: ASUS TUF Z390M-Pro
  • CPU: Intel i5-9400 2.9GHz 65W
  • RAM: DDR4-3200
  • P.S.: Thermaltake 500W
  • Case: Antec VSK3000 Elite MicroATX minitower

Version 2018-June-29 Intel Socket 1151

Recently bought three new DAQ computers from ELCO, with following MOBO and CPU

  • MOBO: ASUS TUF Z370 Plus Gaming LGA 1151 ATX
  • CPU: Intel Core i7-8700 LGA1151 (3.20GHz, L3:12M, Hex Core, TDP: 65W)
  • RAM: DDR4-2667

Full quote available here.

Version ??? Intel Socket 1151

  • Mobo: Z270
  • Mobo: Z170
  • RAM: DDR4

Version 2017-01-17 Reduced Cost PC

$700 per machine

  • CPU: Intel i3-7100 CPU @ 3.90GHz
  • Mobo: ASUS H110M-A/M.2
  • RAM: single 16GB DIMM DDR4-2133
  • SSD: Kingston 120GB SATA M.2
  • P.S.: Thermaltake TR2 500W
  • Chassis: Antec VSK3000E-U3 minitower

Version 2015-NOV-17 Intel Socket 1151

Version 2014-DEC-8 Intel Socket 1150

Version 2014-May-07 Reduced cost PC

Version 2014-MAY-8 Intel Socket 1150

Version 2014-MAY-8 Intel Socket 2011

Version 2012-OCT-4 AMD-E450 reduced cost PC (PRELIMINARY)

Version 2011-SEP-05 AMD-E350 reduced cost PC

Version 2011-OCT-31 Intel Socket 1366

Version 2011-FEB-08 Intel Socket 1366

Version 2010-May-13 Intel Socket 1156

Version X Intel Socket 775

  • mobo: ASUS P5B-VM
  • CPU: Intel dual core 2.4 GHz
  • RAM: DDR2-800
  • SATA disks

Version X AMD AM2/AM3

  • mobo: ASUS Crosshair and Crosshair II
  • CPU: assorted multicore socket AM2/AM3 CPU
  • RAM: DDR2-800

Version X AMD Socket 939

  • mobo: ASUS A8N-E
  • CPU: AMD assorted socket 939 1-2 core CPUs
  • RAM: DDR400 UDIMMs up to 4x1GB=4GB total
  • up to 4x SATA disks

Version X AMD Dual Socket 940

  • mobo: assorted supermicro, asus, msi
  • CPU: AMD Opteron Socket 940 assorted speed grades
  • RAM: registered and registered+ECC DDR400

Version X AMD Dual Socket A

  • mobo: ASUS A7M266-D
  • CPU: dual Athlon-MP 1.8-2.2 GHz
  • RAM: DDR266

Version X Intel Dual Pentium3

  • mobo: ASUS CUV4X-D
  • CPU: dual Pentium3 1GHz
  • RAM: SDR133

Version X Intel Dual Pentium2 ISA

  • mobo: ASUS P2B-D
  • CPU: dual slot Pentium2 400-800 MHz
  • RAM: SDR100, SDR133
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