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  2503   08 May 2023 Alexey KalininForumScrript in sequencer
Hello,

I tried different ways to pass parameters to bash script, but there are seems to 
be empty, what could be the problem?

We have seuqencer like

ODBGET "/Runinfo/runnumber", firstrun
LOOP n,10
#changing HV
TRANSITION start
WAIT seconds,300
TRANSITION stop
ENDLOOP
ODBGET "/Runinfo/runnumber", lastrun
SCRIPT /.../script.sh ,$firstrun ,$lastrun

and script.sh like
firstrun=$1
lastrun=$2

Thanks. Alexey.
  2504   08 May 2023 Stefan RittForumScrript in sequencer
> I tried different ways to pass parameters to bash script, but there are seems to 
> be empty, what could be the problem?

Indeed there was a bug in the sequencer with parameter passing to scripts. I fixed it
and committed the changes to the develop branch.

Stefan
  2505   09 May 2023 Alexey KalininForumScrript in sequencer
Thanks. It works perfect.
Another question is:
Is it possible to run .msl seqscript from bash cmd?
Maybe it's easier then
1 odbedit -c 'set "/sequencer/load filename" filename.msl'
2 odbedit -c 'set "/sequencer/load new file" TRUE'
3 odbedit -c 'set "/sequencer/start script" TRUE'

What is the best way to have a button starting sequencer
from  /script (or /alias )?

Alexey.

> > I tried different ways to pass parameters to bash script, but there are seems to 
> > be empty, what could be the problem?
> 
> Indeed there was a bug in the sequencer with parameter passing to scripts. I fixed it
> and committed the changes to the develop branch.
> 
> Stefan
  2506   10 May 2023 Stefan RittForumScrript in sequencer
> Thanks. It works perfect.
> Another question is:
> Is it possible to run .msl seqscript from bash cmd?
> Maybe it's easier then
> 1 odbedit -c 'set "/sequencer/load filename" filename.msl'
> 2 odbedit -c 'set "/sequencer/load new file" TRUE'
> 3 odbedit -c 'set "/sequencer/start script" TRUE'

That will work.

> What is the best way to have a button starting sequencer
> from  /script (or /alias )?

Have a look at 

https://daq00.triumf.ca/MidasWiki/index.php/Sequencer#Controlling_the_sequencer_from_custom_pages

where I put the necessary information.

Stefan
  2507   10 May 2023 Lukas GerritzenSuggestionDesktop notifications for messages
It would be nice to have MIDAS notifications pop up outside of the browser window.

To get enable this myself, I hijacked the speech synthesis and I added the following to mhttpd_speak_now(text) inside mhttpd.js:
let notification = new Notification('MIDAS Message', {
    body: text,
});

I couldn't ask for the permission for notifications here, as Firefox threw the error "The Notification permission may only be requested from inside a short running user-generated event handler". Therefore, I added a button to config.html:
<button class="mbutton" onclick="Notification.requestPermission()">Request notification permission</button>

There might be a more elegant solution to request the permission.
  2508   10 May 2023 Lukas GerritzenSuggestionMake sequencer more compatible with mobile devices
When trying to select a run script on an iPad or other mobile device, you cannot enter subdirectories. This is caused by the following part:
if (script.substring(0, 1) === "[") {
   // refuse to load script if the selected a subdirectory
   return;
}

and the fact that the <option> elements are listening for double click events, which seem to be impossible on a mobile device.

The following modification allows browsing the directories without changing the double click behaviour on a desktop:
diff --git a/resources/load_script.html b/resources/load_script.html
index 41bfdccd..36caa57f 100644
--- a/resources/load_script.html
+++ b/resources/load_script.html
@@ -59,6 +59,28 @@
 </div>

 <script>
+   document.getElementById("msg_sel").onchange = function() {
+      script = this.value;
+      button = document.getElementById("load_button");
+      if (script.substring(0, 4) === "[..]") {
+         // Change button to go back
+         enable_button_by_id("load_button");
+         button.innerHTML = "Back";
+         button.onclick = up_subdir;
+      } else if (script.substring(0, 1) === "[") {
+         // Change button to load subdirectory
+         enable_button_by_id("load_button");
+         button.innerHTML = "Enter subdirectory";
+         button.onclick = load_subdir;
+      } else {
+         // Change button to load script
+         enable_button_by_id("load_button");
+         button = document.getElementById("load_button");
+         button.innerHTML = "Load script";
+         button.onclick = load_script;
+      }
+   }
+
 function set_if_changed(id, value)
 {
    var e = document.getElementById(id);

This makes the code quoted above redundant, so the check can actually be omitted.
  2509   10 May 2023 Stefan RittSuggestionMake sequencer more compatible with mobile devices

Lukas Gerritzen wrote:
When trying to select a run script on an iPad or other mobile device, you cannot enter subdirectories. This is caused by the following part:


We are working right now on a general file picker, which will replace also the file picker for the sequencer. So please wait until the new thing is out and then test it there.

Stefan
  2510   10 May 2023 Stefan RittSuggestionDesktop notifications for messages

Lukas Gerritzen wrote:
It would be nice to have MIDAS notifications pop up outside of the browser window.


There are certainly dozens of people who do "I don't like pop-up windows all the time". So this has to come with a switch in the config page to turn it off. If there is a switch "allow pop-up windows", then we have the other fraction of people using Edge/Chrome/Safari/Opera saying "it's not working on my specific browser on version x.y.z". So I'm only willing to add that feature if we are sure it's a standard things working in most environments.

Best,
Stefan
  2512   10 May 2023 Lukas GerritzenSuggestionDesktop notifications for messages

Stefan Ritt wrote:

people using Edge/Chrome/Safari/Opera saying "it's not working on my specific browser on version x.y.z". So I'm only willing to add that feature if we are sure it's a standard things working in most environments.



[The API looks pretty standard to me. Firefox, Chrome, Opera have been supporting it for about 9 years, Safari for almost 6. I didn't find out when Edge 14 was released, but they're at version 112 now.

Since browsers don't want to annoy their users, many don't allow websites to ask for permissions without user interaction. So the workflow would be something like: The user has to press a button "please ask for permission", then the browser opens a dialog "do you want to grant this website permission to show notifications?" and only then it works. So I don't think it's an annoying popup-mess, especially since system notifications don't capture the focus and typically vanish after a few seconds. If that feature is hidden behind a button on the config page, it shouldn't lead to surprises. Especially since users can always revoke that permission.
  2513   11 May 2023 Stefan RittSuggestionDesktop notifications for messages
Ok, I implemented desktop notifications. In the MIDAS config page, you can now enable browser notifications for the different types of messages. Not sure this works perfectly, but a staring point. So please let me know if there is any issue.

Stefan
  2514   12 May 2023 Stefan RittInfoNew environment variable MIDAS_EXPNAME
A new environment variable MIDAS_EXPNAME has been introduced. This must be
used for cases where people use MIDAS_DIR, and is then equivalent for the
experiment name and directory usually used in the exptab file. This fixes
and issue with creating and deleting shared memory in midas as described in

https://bitbucket.org/tmidas/midas/issues/363/deletion-of-shared-memory-fails

The documentation has been updated at

https://daq00.triumf.ca/MidasWiki/index.php/MIDAS_environment_variables#MIDAS_EXPN
AME

/Stefan
  2515   12 May 2023 Konstantin OlchanskiInfoNew environment variable MIDAS_EXPNAME
> A new environment variable MIDAS_EXPNAME has been introduced [to be used together with 
MIDAS_DIR]

This is fixes an important buglet. If experiment uses MIDAS_DIR instead of exptab, at the time 
of connecting to ODB, we do not know the experiment name and use name "Default" to create ODB 
shared memory, instead of actual experiment name.

This creates an inconsistency, if some MIDAS programs in the same experiment use MIDAS_DIR while 
others use exptab (this would be unusual, but not impossible) they would connect to two 
different ODB shared memories, former using name "Default", latter using actual experiment name.

As an indication that something is not right, when stopping MIDAS programs, there is an error 
message about failure to delete shared ODB shared memory (because it was created using name 
"Default" and delete using the correct experiment name fails).

Also it can cause co-mingling between two different experiments, depending on the type of shared 
memory used by MIDAS (see $MIDAS_DIR/.SHM_TYPE.TXT):
POSIX - (usually not used) not affected (experiment name is not used)
POSIXv2 - (usually not used) affected (shm name is "$EXP_NAME_ODB")
POSIXv3 - used on MacOS - affected (shm name is "$UID_$EXP_NAME_ODB" so "$UID_Default_ODB" will 
collide)
POSIXv4 - used on Linux - not affected (shm name includes $MIDAS_DIR which is different for 
different experiments)

K.O.
  2516   16 May 2023 Konstantin OlchanskiBug Reportexcessive logging of http requests
Our default configuration of apache httpd logs every request. MIDAS custom web pages can easily make a huge number of RPC calls creating a 
huge log file and filling system disk to 100% capacity

this example has around 100 RPC requests per second. reasonable/unreasonable? available hardware can handle it (web browser, network 
httpd, mhttpd, etc), so we should try to get this to work. perhaps filter the apache httpd logs to exclude mjsonrpc requests? of course we 
can ask the affected experiment why they make so many RPC calls, is there a bug?

[14/May/2023:03:49:01 -0700] 142.90.111.176 TLSv1.2 ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 "POST /?mjsonrpc HTTP/1.1" 299
[14/May/2023:03:49:01 -0700] 142.90.111.176 TLSv1.2 ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 "POST /?mjsonrpc HTTP/1.1" 299
[14/May/2023:03:49:01 -0700] 142.90.111.176 TLSv1.2 ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 "POST /?mjsonrpc HTTP/1.1" 299
[14/May/2023:03:49:01 -0700] 142.90.111.176 TLSv1.2 ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 "POST /?mjsonrpc HTTP/1.1" 299
[14/May/2023:03:49:01 -0700] 142.90.111.176 TLSv1.2 ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 "POST /?mjsonrpc HTTP/1.1" 299

K.O.
  2517   16 May 2023 Konstantin OlchanskiBug Reportexcessive logging of http requests
> Our default configuration of apache httpd logs every request. MIDAS custom web pages can easily make a huge number of RPC calls creating a 
> huge log file and filling system disk to 100% capacity

perhaps use existing logrotate, add limit on file size (size) and limit of 2 old log files (rotate).

/etc/logrotate.d/httpd

/var/log/httpd/*log { 
    size 100M 
    rotate 2 
    missingok 
    notifempty 
    sharedscripts 
    delaycompress 
    postrotate 
        /bin/systemctl reload httpd.service > /dev/null 2>/dev/null || true 
    endscript 
} 

K.O.
  2518   16 May 2023 Stefan RittBug Reportexcessive logging of http requests
Maybe you remember the problems we had with a custom page in Japan loading it from TRIUMF. It took almost one minute since each RPC request took 
about 1s round-trip. This got fixed by the modb* scheme where the framework actually collects all ODB variables in a custom page and puts them 
into ONE rpc request (making the path an actual array of paths). That reduced the requests from 100 to 1 in the above example. Maybe the same 
could be done in your current case. Pulling one ODB variable at a time is not very efficient.

Stefan
  2519   23 May 2023 Kou OishiBug ReportEvent builder fails at every 10 runs
Dear MIDAS experts,

Greetings! 
I am currently utilizing MIDAS for our experiment and I have encountered an issue with our event builder, which was developed based on the example code 'eventbuilder/mevb.cxx'. I'm uncertain whether this is a genuine bug or an inherent feature of MIDAS.

The event builder fails to initiate the 10th run since its startup, requiring us to relaunch it. Upon investigating the code, I have identified that this issue stems from line 8404 of mfe.cxx (the version's hash is db94df6fa79772c49888da9374e143067a1fff3a). According to the code, the 10-run limit is imposed by the variable MAX_EVENT_REQUESTS in midas.h. While I can increase this value as the code suggests, it does not provide a complete solution, as the same problem will inevitably resurface. This complication unnecessarily hampers our data collection during long observation periods.

Despite the code indicating 'BM_NO_MEMORY: too many requests,' this explanation does not seem logical to me. In fact, other standard frontends do not encounter this problem and can start new runs as required without requiring a frontend relaunch.

I apologize for not yet fully grasping the intricate implementation of midas.cxx and mfe.cxx. However, I would greatly appreciate any suggestions or insights you can offer to help resolve this issue.

Thank you in advance for your kind assistance.
  2520   24 May 2023 Gennaro TortoneForumpull request for PostgreSQL support
Hi,
is there any news regarding this pull request ? 
(https://bitbucket.org/tmidas/midas/pull-requests/30)

If you agree to merge I can resolve conflicts that now 
(after two months) are listed...

Regards,
Gennaro

> 
> Hi,
> I have updated the PR with a new one that includes TimescaleDB support and some
> changes to mhistory.js to support downsampling queries...
> 
> Cheers,
> Gennaro
> 
> > > some minutes ago I published a PR for PostgreSQL support I developed
> > > at INFN-Napoli for Darkside experiment...
> > > 
> > > I don't know if you receive a notification about this PR and in doubt
> > > I wrote this message...
> > 
> > Hi, Gennaro, thank you for the very useful contribution. I saw the previous version 
> > of your pull request and everything looked quite good. But that pull request was 
> > for an older version of midas and it would not have applied cleanly to the current 
> > version. I will take a look at your updated pull request. In theory it should only 
> > add the Postgres class and modify a few other places in history_schema.cxx and have 
> > no changes to anything else. (if you need those changes, it should be a separate 
> > pull request).
> > 
> > Also I am curious what benefits and drawbacks of Postgres vs mysql/mariadb you have 
> > observed for storing and using midas history data.
> > 
> > K.O.
  2521   31 May 2023 Ben SmithBug ReportEvent builder fails at every 10 runs
> The event builder fails to initiate the 10th run since its startup, 
> 'BM_NO_MEMORY: too many requests,'

Hi Kou,

It sounds like you might be calling bm_request_event() when starting a run, but not calling bm_delete_request() when the run stops. So you end up "leaking" event requests and eventually reach the limit of 10 open requests.

In examples/eventbuilder/mevb.c the request deletion happens in source_unbooking(), which is called as part of the "run stopping" logic. I've just updated the midas repository so the example compiles correctly, and was able to start/stop 15 runs without crashing.

Can you check the end-of-run logic in your version to ensure you're calling bm_delete_request()?
  2522   01 Jun 2023 Thomas LindnerInfoMIDAS Workshop 2023
Dear MIDAS users,

We would like to arrange another MIDAS workshop, following on from previous successful workshops in 2015, 2017 and 2019.  The 
goals of the workshop would include:

- Getting updates from MIDAS developers on new features and other changes.
- Getting reports from MIDAS users on how they are using MIDAS, what is working and what is not
- Making plans for future MIDAS changes and improvements

This would be a one-day virtual workshop, planned for about 4 hours length.  The workshop will probably be after another of 
Stefan's visits to TRIUMF.

If you would be interested in participating in such a workshop, please help us choose the date by filling out this doodle poll:

https://doodle.com/meeting/organize/id/dBPVMQJa

Please fill in the poll by June 9, if you are interested.  We will announce the date soon after that.

Thanks,
Thomas
  Draft   02 Jun 2023 Kou OishiBug ReportEvent builder fails at every 10 runs
Dear 

> > The event builder fails to initiate the 10th run since its startup, 
> > 'BM_NO_MEMORY: too many requests,'
> 
> Hi Kou,
> 
> It sounds like you might be calling bm_request_event() when starting a run, but not calling bm_delete_request() when the run stops. So you end up "leaking" event requests and eventually reach the limit of 10 open requests.
> 
> In examples/eventbuilder/mevb.c the request deletion happens in source_unbooking(), which is called as part of the "run stopping" logic. I've just updated the midas repository so the example compiles correctly, and was able to start/stop 15 runs without crashing.
> 
> Can you check the end-of-run logic in your version to ensure you're calling bm_delete_request()?
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