 13 Oct 2017, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, odb multithread support repaired
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multithreaded access to odb was implemented back in 2013-2014. but recently a bug surfaced -
there was a race condition in the odb locking code against cm_watchdog(). Somehow this only
affected the mserver for the DRAGON experiment at TRIUMF. This is now fixed on the branch
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08 Aug 2022, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, odb disallow key names that start or end with spaces
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while testing the new odb editor, we ran into a number of problems with key names
that start or end with spaces. we cannot think of any valid use case for such key
names (subdirectories and variables) and we think they could only have been
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23 Dec 2010, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Report, odb corruption, odb race condition?
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The following script makes midas very unhappy and eventually causes odb corruption. I suspect the reason is some kind of race condition collision between
client
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 24 Dec 2010, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Report, odb corruption, odb race condition?
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> Thu Dec 23 12:10:30 2010 [ODBEdit9,ERROR] [odb.c:3247:db_get_value,ERROR] "Name" is of type NULL, not STRING
This is caused by a race condition between client removal in cm_delete_client_info() and cm_exist().
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24 Dec 2010, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Report, odb corruption, odb race condition?
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> > Thu Dec 23 12:10:30 2010 [ODBEdit9,ERROR] [odb.c:3247:db_get_value,ERROR] "Name" is of type NULL, not STRING
> This is caused by a race condition between client removal in cm_delete_client_info() and cm_exist().
> ... this race condition seems to be benign.
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01 Jan 2009, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, odb "hot link" magic explored
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Here are my notes on the MIDAS ODB "hot link" function. Perhaps others can find them useful.
Using db_open_record(key,function), the user can tell MIDAS to call the specified user function when
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14 Jan 2009, Stefan Ritt, Info, odb "hot link" magic explored
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[quote="KO"]note 1: I do not completely understand the ss_suspend_xxx() stuff. The best I can tell is it creates a number of udp sockets bound to the local
host and at least one udp rpc receive socket ultimately connected to the cm_dispatch_rpc() function.[/quote]
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22 Sep 2025, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, obsolete mana.c removal
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Following discussions at the MIDAS workshop and the proposed removal of support for ROOT, the very obsolete mana.c
analyzer framework has reached the end of the line.
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23 Sep 2025, Andreas Suter, Info, obsolete mana.c removal
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Hi,
at the LEM Experiment at PSI, we still use mana.c and would like to keep it until end of 2026, where we will enter a long shutdown.
There we will switch to the manalyzer. Before that, there is simply no time for the change over. One thing I already noticed is the "lack" of documentation, |
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23 Sep 2025, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, obsolete mana.c removal
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> Hi, at the LEM Experiment at PSI, we still use mana.c and would like to keep it until end of 2026, where we will enter a long shutdown.
Excellent, good to hear from you! Once we remove ROOT support rmana.o will be gone, only mana.o (no ROOT) will remain. Will this break your builds?
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24 Sep 2025, Andreas Suter, Info, obsolete mana.c removal
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Sorry,
I have had now the time to dig deeper in our code and realized that we actually use rmana, i.e. WITH ROOT. If there is an easy way to incorporate the necessary |
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28 Jan 2024, Pavel Murat, Forum, number of entries in a given ODB subdirectory ?
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Dear MIDAS experts,
- I have a detector configuration with a variable number of hardware components - FPGA's receiving data
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28 Jan 2024, Konstantin Olchanski, Forum, number of entries in a given ODB subdirectory ?
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Very good question. It exposes a very nasty problem, the race condition between "ls" and "rm". While you are
looping over directory entries, somebody else is completely permitted to remove one of the files (or add more
files), making the output of "ls" incorrect (contains non-existant/removed files, does not contain newly added
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28 Jan 2024, Stefan Ritt, Forum, number of entries in a given ODB subdirectory ? 
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I guess you won't change your FPGA configuration just when you start a run, so I don't consider the race
condition very crucial (although KO is correct, it it there).
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29 Jan 2024, Pavel Murat, Forum, number of entries in a given ODB subdirectory ?
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Hi Stefan, Konstantin,
thanks a lot for your responses - they are very teaching and it is good to have them archived in the forum.
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29 Jan 2024, Konstantin Olchanski, Forum, number of entries in a given ODB subdirectory ?
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> https://chat.openai.com/share/d927c78d-9914-4413-ab5e-3b0e5d173132
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> Please note that you never can be 100% sure that the code from a LLM is correct
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03 Feb 2024, Pavel Murat, Forum, number of entries in a given ODB subdirectory ?
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Konstantin is right: KEY.num_values is not the same as the number of subkeys (should it be ?)
For those looking for an example in the future, I attach a working piece of code converted
from the ChatGPT example, together with its printout.
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08 Feb 2024, Stefan Ritt, Forum, number of entries in a given ODB subdirectory ?
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> Konstantin is right: KEY.num_values is not the same as the number of subkeys (should it be ?)
For ODB keys of type TID_KEY, the value num_values IS the number of subkeys. The only issue here is
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11 Feb 2024, Pavel Murat, Forum, number of entries in a given ODB subdirectory ?
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> For ODB keys of type TID_KEY, the value num_values IS the number of subkeys.
this logic makes sense, however it doesn't seem to be consistent with the printout of the test example
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13 Feb 2024, Stefan Ritt, Forum, number of entries in a given ODB subdirectory ?
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> > For ODB keys of type TID_KEY, the value num_values IS the number of subkeys.
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> this logic makes sense, however it doesn't seem to be consistent with the printout of the test example
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