> > memory in my PC is 16 GB 
> 
> You can safely go to buffer size 100 Mbytes or more.
> 
> > I check the contents of .SHM_TYPE.TXT and it is "POSIXv2_SHM".
> 
> Good.


No, wait, this is all wrong. If it says POSIX shared memory, how come it later
complains about SYSV shared memory and tells you to run SYSV shared memory
commands like ipcrm?!?


> > But there is no buffer sizes in "/Experiment" 


Now this kind of makes sense - you are probably running a strange mixture
of very old and recently new MIDAS. Probably you current version is so old
that it does not use .SHM_TYPE.TXT and can only do SYSV shared memory
and so old it does not have "/Experiment/buffer sizes".

But at some point you must have run a recent version of midas, or you would
not have the file .SHM_TYPE.TXT in your experiment directory.

I say:

a) run the correct ipcrm command (without the spurious "size..." text)
b) review your computer contents to identify all the versions of midas
   and to make sure you are using the midas you want to use (old or new,
   whatever), but not some wrong version by accident (incorrect PATH setting, etc)

As MIDAS developers, we usually recommend that you use the latest version of MIDAS,
certainly latest version is simpler to debug.

K.O.

> memory in my PC is 16 GB 

You can safely go to buffer size 100 Mbytes or more.

> I check the contents of .SHM_TYPE.TXT and it is "POSIXv2_SHM".

Good.

> But there is no buffer sizes in "/Experiment" 

This is strange. How old is your midas? What does it say on the "help" page in "Revision"?

> After run "ipcrm -M 0x4d040761 size0x204a3c"

This command is wrong. It probably gave you an error instead of removing the shared memory, that's why
nothing worked afterwards.

My copy of system.c reads this:
cm_msg(MERROR, "ss_shm_open", "Shared memory segment with key 0x%x already exists, please remove it manually: ipcrm -M 0x%x", key, 
key);

Note how there is no text "size0x..." in my copy? What does your copy say? Did somebody change it?

> remove .SYSTEM.SHM and run MIDAS again, I still get error "Shared memory segment
> with key 0x4d040761 already exists, please remove it manually: ipcrm -M 0x4d040761 size0x204a3c" M.T

Yes, that's because the ipcrm command is wrong and did not work,
it should read "ipcrm -M 0x4d040761" without the spurious "size..." text.

K.O.

> memory in my PC is 16 GB 

You can safely go to buffer size 100 Mbytes or more.

> I check the contents of .SHM_TYPE.TXT and it is "POSIXv2_SHM".

Good.

> But there is no buffer sizes in "/Experiment" 

This is strange. How old is your midas? What does it say on the "help" page in "Revision"?

> After run "ipcrm -M 0x4d040761 size0x204a3c"

This command is wrong. It probably gave you an error instead of removing the shared memory, that's why
nothing worked afterwards.

My copy of system.c reads this:
cm_msg(MERROR, "ss_shm_open", "Shared memory segment with key 0x%x already exists, please remove it manually: ipcrm -M 0x%x", key, key);

Note how there is no text "size0x..." in my copy? What does your copy say? Did somebody change it?

> remove .SYSTEM.SHM and run MIDAS again, I still get error "Shared memory segment
> with key 0x4d040761 already exists, please remove it manually: ipcrm -M 0x4d040761 size0x204a3c" M.T

Yes, that's because the ipcrm command is wrong and did not work,
it should read "ipcrm -M 0x4d040761" without the spurious "size..." text.

K.O.

I am sorry for my late reply 

memory in my PC is 16 GB 

I check the contents of .SHM_TYPE.TXT and it is "POSIXv2_SHM". 
But there is no buffer sizes in "/Experiment" 

After run "ipcrm -M 0x4d040761 size0x204a3c", remove .SYSTEM.SHM and run MIDAS again, I still get error "Shared memory segment
with key 0x4d040761 already exists, please remove it manually: ipcrm -M 0x4d040761 size0x204a3c" M.T

I am sorry for my late reply memory in my PC is 16 GB I check the contents of .SHM_TYPE.TXT and it is "POSIXv2_SHM". But there is no buffer sizes in "/Experiment" After run "ipcrm -M 0x4d040761 size0x204a3c", remove .SYSTEM.SHM and run MIDAS again, I still get error "Shared memory segment with key 0x4d040761 already exists, please remove it manually: ipcrm -M 0x4d040761 size0x204a3c" M.T

> I have problem in event buffer size.
> 
> When run MIDAS, I got error "total event size (1307072) larger than buffer size
> (1048576)", so I guess that the EVENT_BUFFER_SIZE is small.
>

Correct. You have a choice of sending smaller events or increasing the buffer size.

Increasing the buffer size consumes computer memory, how much memory do you have on your machine?

> 
> I change EVENT_BUFFER_SIZE in midas.h from 0x100000 to 0x200000. After compiling
> and run MIDAS, I got other error "Shared memory segment with key 0x4d040761
> already exists, please remove it manually: ipcrm -M 0x4d040761 size0x204a3c" in
> system.C
> 

This is not normal. In recent versions of MIDAS (for the last few years)

a) buffer size is changed via ODB "/Experiment/buffer sizes", no need to edit midas.h
b) shared memory was switched from SYSV shared memory to POSIX shared memory, and you should not see any references to 
SYSV shared memory functions like "ipcrm", "shmget" and "segment key".

Are you using a very old version of MIDAS? Or maybe you have a MIDAS installation that still uses SYSV shared memory. Check 
the contents of .SHM_TYPE.TXT (in the same directory as .ODB.SHM), if would normally say "POSIXv2_SHM". If it says 
something else, it is best to convert to POSIX SHM. Simplest way is to stop everything, save odb to text file, delete 
.SHM_TYPE.TXT, restart odb with odbedit, reload from text file. Now check that .SHM_TYPE.TXT says "POSIXv2_SHM".

>
> I check the shmget() function in system.C and it is said that error come from
> Shared memory segments larger than 16,773,120 bytes and create teraspace shared
> memory segments
> 

What teraspace?!? You changed the size from 1 Mbyte to 2 Mbyte (0x200000), this is still below even the value you have above 
(16,773,120).

At the end, it is not clear what your problem is. After changing the shared memory size (via odb or via midas.h),
the midas *will* complain about the mismatch in size (existing vs expected) and will tell you how to fix it, (run "ipcrm").
After does this, is there still an error? Normally everything will just work. (you might also have to erase .SYSTEM.SHM,
midas will tell you to do so if it is needed).

So what is your final error? (After running ipcrm?)

K.O.

Dear all,

I have problem in event buffer size.

When run MIDAS, I got error "total event size (1307072) larger than buffer size
(1048576)", so I guess that the EVENT_BUFFER_SIZE is small.

I change EVENT_BUFFER_SIZE in midas.h from 0x100000 to 0x200000. After compiling
and run MIDAS, I got other error "Shared memory segment with key 0x4d040761
already exists, please remove it manually: ipcrm -M 0x4d040761 size0x204a3c" in
system.C

I check the shmget() function in system.C and it is said that error come from
Shared memory segments larger than 16,773,120 bytes and create teraspace shared
memory segments

Anyone has this problem before?
Thanks for your help

M.T

Dear all,

I have problem in event buffer size.

When run MIDAS, I got error "total event size (1307072) larger than buffer size
(1048576)", so I guess that the EVENT_BUFFER_SIZE is small.

I change EVENT_BUFFER_SIZE in midas.h from 0x100000 to 0x200000. After compiling
and run MIDAS, I got other error "Shared memory segment with key 0x4d040761
already exists, please remove it manually: ipcrm -M 0x4d040761 size0x204a3c" in
system.C

I check the shmget() function in system.C and it is said that error come from
Shared memory segments larger than 16,773,120 bytes and create teraspace shared
memory segments

Anyone has this problem before?
Thanks for your help

M.T

As discussed before, the midas omnibus javascript file mhttpd.js has been split into three pieces:

midas.js - midas "public api" for building web pages that interact with midas
mhttpd.js - javascript functions used by mhttpd web pages
obsolete.js - functions still in use, but not recommended for new designs, mostly because of the deprecated "Synchronous XMLHttpRequest" business.

Consider these use cases:

a) completely standalone web pages served from some other web server (not mhttpd): loading midas.js, set the mhttpd location (base URL) via mjsonrpc_set_url(url) and issue 
midas json-rpc requests as normal. (mhttpd fully supports the cross-site scripting (CORS) function).

b) custom pages loaded from mhttpd without midas styling: same as above, but no need to set the mhttpd base url.

c) custom pages loaded from mhttpd with midas styling: load midas.js, load mhttpd.js, load midas.css or mhttpd.css, see aaa_template.html or example.html to see how it all fits 
together.

d) custom replacement for mhttpd standard web pages: to replace (for example) the standard "alarms" page, copy (or create a new one) alarms.html into the experiment directory 
($MIDAS_DIR, same place as .ODB.SHM) and hack away. You can start from alarms.html, from aaa_template.html or from example.html.

K.O.

P.S. I am also reviewing mhttpd.css - the existing css file severely changes standard html formatting making it difficult to create custom web pages (all online tutorials and examples 
look nothing like that are supposed to look like). The new CSS file midas.css fixes this by only changing formatting of html elements that explicitly ask for "midas styling", without 
contaminating the standard html formatting. midas.css only works for example.html and aaa_template.html for now.

P.P.S. Here is the complete list of javascript functions in all 3 files:

8s-macbook-pro:resources 8ss$ grep ^function midas.js mhttpd.js obsolete.js
midas.js:function mjsonrpc_set_url(url)
midas.js:function mjsonrpc_send_request(req)
midas.js:function mjsonrpc_debug_alert(rpc) {
midas.js:function mjsonrpc_decode_error(error) {
midas.js:function mjsonrpc_error_alert(error) {
midas.js:function mjsonrpc_make_request(method, params, id)
midas.js:function mjsonrpc_call(method, params, id)
midas.js:function mjsonrpc_start_program(name, id) {
midas.js:function mjsonrpc_stop_program(name, unique, id) {
midas.js:function mjsonrpc_cm_exist(name, unique, id) {
midas.js:function mjsonrpc_al_reset_alarm(alarms, id) {
midas.js:function mjsonrpc_al_trigger_alarm(name, message, xclass, condition, type, id) {
midas.js:function mjsonrpc_db_copy(paths, id) {
midas.js:function mjsonrpc_db_get_values(paths, id) {
midas.js:function mjsonrpc_db_ls(paths, id) {
midas.js:function mjsonrpc_db_resize(paths, new_lengths, id) {
midas.js:function mjsonrpc_db_key(paths, id) {
midas.js:function mjsonrpc_db_delete(paths, id) {
midas.js:function mjsonrpc_db_paste(paths, values, id) {
midas.js:function mjsonrpc_db_create(paths, id) {
midas.js:function mjsonrpc_cm_msg(message, type, id) {
mhttpd.js:function ODBFinishInlineEdit(p, path, bracket)
mhttpd.js:function ODBInlineEditKeydown(event, p, path, bracket)
mhttpd.js:function ODBInlineEdit(p, odb_path, bracket)
mhttpd.js:function mhttpd_disable_button(button)
mhttpd.js:function mhttpd_enable_button(button)
mhttpd.js:function mhttpd_hide_button(button)
mhttpd.js:function mhttpd_unhide_button(button)
mhttpd.js:function mhttpd_init_overlay(overlay)
mhttpd.js:function mhttpd_hide_overlay(overlay)
mhttpd.js:function mhttpd_unhide_overlay(overlay)
mhttpd.js:function mhttpd_getParameterByName(name) {
mhttpd.js:function mhttpd_goto_page(page) {
mhttpd.js:function mhttpd_navigation_bar(current_page)
mhttpd.js:function mhttpd_page_footer()
mhttpd.js:function mhttpd_create_page_handle_create(mouseEvent)
mhttpd.js:function mhttpd_create_page_handle_cancel(mouseEvent)
mhttpd.js:function mhttpd_delete_page_handle_delete(mouseEvent)
mhttpd.js:function mhttpd_delete_page_handle_cancel(mouseEvent)
mhttpd.js:function mhttpd_start_run()
mhttpd.js:function mhttpd_stop_run()
mhttpd.js:function mhttpd_pause_run()
mhttpd.js:function mhttpd_resume_run()
mhttpd.js:function mhttpd_cancel_transition()
mhttpd.js:function mhttpd_reset_alarm(alarm_name)
mhttpd.js:function msg_load(f)
mhttpd.js:function msg_prepend(msg)
mhttpd.js:function msg_append(msg)
mhttpd.js:function findPos(obj) {
mhttpd.js:function msg_extend()
mhttpd.js:function alarm_load()
mhttpd.js:function aspeak_click(t)
mhttpd.js:function mhttpd_alarm_speak(t)
mhttpd.js:function chat_kp(e)
mhttpd.js:function rb()
mhttpd.js:function speak_click(t)
mhttpd.js:function chat_send()
mhttpd.js:function chat_load()
mhttpd.js:function chat_format(line)
mhttpd.js:function chat_prepend(msg)
mhttpd.js:function chat_append(msg)
mhttpd.js:function chat_reformat()
mhttpd.js:function chat_extend()
obsolete.js:function XMLHttpRequestGeneric()
obsolete.js:function ODBSetURL(url)
obsolete.js:function ODBSet(path, value, pwdname)
obsolete.js:function ODBGet(path, format, defval, len, type)
obsolete.js:function ODBMGet(paths, callback, formats)
obsolete.js:function ODBGetRecord(path)
obsolete.js:function ODBExtractRecord(record, key)
obsolete.js:function ODBKey(path)
obsolete.js:function ODBCopy(path, format)
obsolete.js:function ODBCall(url, callback)
obsolete.js:function ODBMCopy(paths, callback, encoding)
obsolete.js:function ODBMLs(paths, callback)
obsolete.js:function ODBMCreate(paths, types, arraylengths, stringlengths, callback)
obsolete.js:function ODBMResize(paths, arraylengths, stringlengths, callback)
obsolete.js:function ODBMRename(paths, names, callback)
obsolete.js:function ODBMLink(paths, links, callback)
obsolete.js:function ODBMReorder(paths, indices, callback)
obsolete.js:function ODBMKey(paths, callback)
obsolete.js:function ODBMDelete(paths, callback)
obsolete.js:function ODBRpc_rev0(name, rpc, args)
obsolete.js:function ODBRpc_rev1(name, rpc, max_reply_length, args)
obsolete.js:function ODBRpc(program_name, command_name, arguments_string, callback, max_reply_length)
obsolete.js:function ODBGetMsg(facility, start, n)
obsolete.js:function ODBGenerateMsg(type,facility,user,msg)
obsolete.js:function ODBGetAlarms()
obsolete.js:function ODBEdit(path)
obsolete.js:function getMouseXY(e)
8s-macbook-pro:resources 8ss$

K.O.

> Some additional explanation.
> 
> Time passed, the world turned, and the current web-compatible standard for text strings is UTF-8 encoded Unicode, see 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTF-8
> (ObCanadianContent, UTF-8 was invented the Canadian Rob Pike https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Pike)
> (and by some other guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Thompson).
> 
> It turns out that not every combination of 8-bit characters (char*) is valid UTF-8 Unicode.
> 
> In the MIDAS world we run into this when MIDAS ODB strings are exported to Javascript running inside web
> browsers ("custom pages", etc). ODB strings (TID_STRING) and ODB key names that are not valid UTF-8
> make such web pages malfunction and do not work right.
> 
> One solution to this is to declare that ODB strings (TID_STRING) and ODB key names *must* be valid UTF-8 Unicode.
> 
> The present commits implemented this solution. Invalid UTF-8 is rejected by db_create() & co and by the ODB integrity validator.
> 
> This means some existing running experiment may suddenly break because somehow they have "old-style" ODB entries
> or they mistakenly use TID_STRING to store arbitrary binary data (use array of TID_CHAR instead).
> 
> To permit such experiments to use current releases of MIDAS, we include a "defeat" device - to disable UTF-8 checks
> until they figure out where non-UTF-8 strings come from and correct the problem.
> 
> Why is this defeat device non an ODB entry? Because it is not a normal mode of operation - there is no use-case where
> an experiment will continue to use non-UTF-8 compatible ODB indefinitely, in the long term. For example, as the MIDAS user
> interface moves to more and more to HTML+Javascript+"AJAX", such experiments will see that non-UTF-8 compatible ODB entries
> cause all sorts of problems and will have to convert.
> 
> 
> K.O.

Ok, I agree.

Stefan

> > 
> > If you compile with the included Makefile, you will see a 
> > 
> > -DOS_LINUX -DOS_DARWIN
> > 
> 
> Moving forward, it looks like I can define these variables in midas.h and remove the need to define them on the compiler command line.
> 
> This would be part of the Makefile and header files cleanup to get things working on Windows10.
> 
> K.O.

Will you detect the underlying OS automatically in midas.h? Note that you have several compilers in MacOS (llvm and gcc), and they might use different 
predefined symbols. I appreciate however getting rid of these flags in the Makefile.

Stefan

> > > I switched mhttpd to use the new javascript based run start and stop pages.
> > 
> > One initial complaint: the transition.html page doesn't seem to deal well with a frontend program using
> > a deferred transition.
> >
> 
> We now have a test frontend for deferred transitions, and this problem will likely be fixed.
> 
> > 
> > I separately still think that the transition page should automatically go away after 5 seconds
> >
> 
> This is a user-interface philosophy issue.
> 
> Instead of using personal preferences one should follow established design principles
> (there is research done and books written about this).
> 
> I did not recently look at current recommendations for this type of interaction, but generally
> one expects web pages to "do things" (such as switch to a different page) only when directed
> by user input (press a button).
> 
> My personal opinion is that half the users will find 5 sec delay too slow, the other half will
> find 5 sec too fast and the 3rd half will wonder "what happened, the web page flashed and disappeared,
> did I miss something important, how do I get back to whatever is was?!?".
> 
> One idea is to implement the transition page as a implant on the state page - after the "start" page
> you go back to the status page where you can see the progress of the transition. After the transition
> completes, it's progress window "collapses" into a "success/failure" display with a link to the full
> transition page to see any details of what happened. Any volunteers? (I would html-ize the status page first).
> 
> K.O.

I agree with Konstantin's plans and volunteer for the "collapsable" display. We will address this during my next visit to TRIUMF.

> > I switched mhttpd to use the new javascript based run start and stop pages.
> 
> One initial complaint: the transition.html page doesn't seem to deal well with a frontend program using
> a deferred transition.
>

We now have a test frontend for deferred transitions, and this problem will likely be fixed.

> 
> I separately still think that the transition page should automatically go away after 5 seconds
>

This is a user-interface philosophy issue.

Instead of using personal preferences one should follow established design principles
(there is research done and books written about this).

I did not recently look at current recommendations for this type of interaction, but generally
one expects web pages to "do things" (such as switch to a different page) only when directed
by user input (press a button).

My personal opinion is that half the users will find 5 sec delay too slow, the other half will
find 5 sec too fast and the 3rd half will wonder "what happened, the web page flashed and disappeared,
did I miss something important, how do I get back to whatever is was?!?".

One idea is to implement the transition page as a implant on the state page - after the "start" page
you go back to the status page where you can see the progress of the transition. After the transition
completes, it's progress window "collapses" into a "success/failure" display with a link to the full
transition page to see any details of what happened. Any volunteers? (I would html-ize the status page first).

K.O.

> 
> If you compile with the included Makefile, you will see a 
> 
> -DOS_LINUX -DOS_DARWIN
> 

Moving forward, it looks like I can define these variables in midas.h and remove the need to define them on the compiler command line.

This would be part of the Makefile and header files cleanup to get things working on Windows10.

K.O.

> 
> I see you put some switches into the environment ("MIDAS_INVALID_STRING_IS_OK"). Do you think this is a good idea? Most variables are 
> sitting in the ODB (/experiment/xxx), except those which cannot be in the ODB because we need it before we open the ODB, like MIDAS_DIR. 
> Having them in the ODB has the advantage that everything is in one place, and we see a "list" of things we can change. From an empty 
> environment it is not clear that such a thing like "MIDAS_INVALID_STRING_IS_OK" does exist, while if it would be an ODB key it would be 
> obvious. Can I convince you to move this flag into the ODB?
>


Some additional explanation.

Time passed, the world turned, and the current web-compatible standard for text strings is UTF-8 encoded Unicode, see 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTF-8
(ObCanadianContent, UTF-8 was invented the Canadian Rob Pike https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Pike)
(and by some other guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Thompson).

It turns out that not every combination of 8-bit characters (char*) is valid UTF-8 Unicode.

In the MIDAS world we run into this when MIDAS ODB strings are exported to Javascript running inside web
browsers ("custom pages", etc). ODB strings (TID_STRING) and ODB key names that are not valid UTF-8
make such web pages malfunction and do not work right.

One solution to this is to declare that ODB strings (TID_STRING) and ODB key names *must* be valid UTF-8 Unicode.

The present commits implemented this solution. Invalid UTF-8 is rejected by db_create() & co and by the ODB integrity validator.

This means some existing running experiment may suddenly break because somehow they have "old-style" ODB entries
or they mistakenly use TID_STRING to store arbitrary binary data (use array of TID_CHAR instead).

To permit such experiments to use current releases of MIDAS, we include a "defeat" device - to disable UTF-8 checks
until they figure out where non-UTF-8 strings come from and correct the problem.

Why is this defeat device non an ODB entry? Because it is not a normal mode of operation - there is no use-case where
an experiment will continue to use non-UTF-8 compatible ODB indefinitely, in the long term. For example, as the MIDAS user
interface moves to more and more to HTML+Javascript+"AJAX", such experiments will see that non-UTF-8 compatible ODB entries
cause all sorts of problems and will have to convert.


K.O.

> 
> > At Konstantin's suggestion, I committed the function I found for checking if a string was UTF-8 compatible to
> > odb.c.  The function is currently not used; I commented out a proposed use in db_create_key.  Experts can decide
> > if the code was good enough to use.
> 
> After more discussion, I have enabled the parts of the ODB code that check that key names are UTF-8 compliant. 
> 
> This check will show up in (at least) two ways:
> 
> 1) Attempts to create a new ODB variable if the ODB key is not UTF-8 compliant.  You will see error messages like
> 
> [fesimdaq,ERROR] [odb.c:572:db_validate_name,ERROR] Invalid name "Eur€" passed to db_create_key: UTF-8 incompatible
> string
> 
> 2) When a program first connects to the ODB, it runs a check to ensure that the ODB is valid.  This will now include
> a check that all key names are UTF-8 compliant. Any non-UTF8 compliant key names will be replaced by a string of the
> pointer to the key.  You will see error messages like:
> 
> [fesimdaq,ERROR] [odb.c:572:db_validate_name,ERROR] Invalid name "Eur€" passed to db_validate_key: UTF-8
> incompatible string
> [fesimdaq,ERROR] [odb.c:647:db_validate_key,ERROR] Warning: corrected key "/Equipment/SIMDAQ/Eur€": invalid name
> "Eur€" replaced with "0x7f74be63f970"
> 
> This behaviour (checking UTF-8 compatibility and automatically fixing ODB names) can be disabled by setting an
> environment variable
> 
> MIDAS_INVALID_STRING_IS_OK
> 
> It doesn't matter what the environment variable is set to; it just needs to be set.  Note also that this variable is
> only checked once, when a program starts.



I see you put some switches into the environment ("MIDAS_INVALID_STRING_IS_OK"). Do you think this is a good idea? Most variables are 
sitting in the ODB (/experiment/xxx), except those which cannot be in the ODB because we need it before we open the ODB, like MIDAS_DIR. 
Having them in the ODB has the advantage that everything is in one place, and we see a "list" of things we can change. From an empty 
environment it is not clear that such a thing like "MIDAS_INVALID_STRING_IS_OK" does exist, while if it would be an ODB key it would be 
obvious. Can I convince you to move this flag into the ODB?

> At Konstantin's suggestion, I committed the function I found for checking if a string was UTF-8 compatible to
> odb.c.  The function is currently not used; I commented out a proposed use in db_create_key.  Experts can decide
> if the code was good enough to use.

After more discussion, I have enabled the parts of the ODB code that check that key names are UTF-8 compliant. 

This check will show up in (at least) two ways:

1) Attempts to create a new ODB variable if the ODB key is not UTF-8 compliant.  You will see error messages like

[fesimdaq,ERROR] [odb.c:572:db_validate_name,ERROR] Invalid name "Eur€" passed to db_create_key: UTF-8 incompatible
string

2) When a program first connects to the ODB, it runs a check to ensure that the ODB is valid.  This will now include
a check that all key names are UTF-8 compliant. Any non-UTF8 compliant key names will be replaced by a string of the
pointer to the key.  You will see error messages like:

[fesimdaq,ERROR] [odb.c:572:db_validate_name,ERROR] Invalid name "Eur€" passed to db_validate_key: UTF-8
incompatible string
[fesimdaq,ERROR] [odb.c:647:db_validate_key,ERROR] Warning: corrected key "/Equipment/SIMDAQ/Eur€": invalid name
"Eur€" replaced with "0x7f74be63f970"

This behaviour (checking UTF-8 compatibility and automatically fixing ODB names) can be disabled by setting an
environment variable

MIDAS_INVALID_STRING_IS_OK

It doesn't matter what the environment variable is set to; it just needs to be set.  Note also that this variable is
only checked once, when a program starts.

> > In other words, non-UTF-8 strings are following non-IEEE-754 floating point values into oblivion - as 
> > we do not check the TID_FLOAT and TID_DOUBLE is valid IEEE-754 values, we should not check 
> > that TID_STRING is valid UTF-8.
> ...
> I attach a suggested modification to odb.c that rejects calls to db_create_key with non-UTF-8 key names.  It
> uses some random function I found on the internet that is supposed to check if a string is valid UTF-8.  I
> checked a couple of strings with invalid UTF-8 characters and it correctly identified them.  But I won't
> claim to be certain that this is really identifying all UTF-8 vs non-UTF-8 cases.  Maybe others have a
> better way of identifying this.

At Konstantin's suggestion, I committed the function I found for checking if a string was UTF-8 compatible to
odb.c.  The function is currently not used; I commented out a proposed use in db_create_key.  Experts can decide
if the code was good enough to use.

> creating a frontend on MAC Sierra OSX 10
> include the midas.h file and when compiling with XCode I get an error based on
> this entry in the midas.h include
> 
> #if !defined(OS_IRIX) && !defined(OS_VMS) && !defined(OS_MSDOS) &&
> !defined(OS_UNIX) && !defined(OS_VXWORKS) && !defined(OS_WINNT)
> #error MIDAS cannot be used on this operating system
> #endif
> 
> 
> Perhaps I should not use Xcode?
> Perhaps I won't need Midas.h?
> 
> The MIDAS system is running on my MAC but I need to add a very simple front end
> for testing and I encounted this error.

If you compile with the included Makefile, you will see a 

-DOS_LINUX -DOS_DARWIN

flag which tells the compiler that we are on a mac. If you do this with XCode, you have to do it via "Build Settings" (see 
attached picture).

Stefan

creating a frontend on MAC Sierra OSX 10
include the midas.h file and when compiling with XCode I get an error based on
this entry in the midas.h include

#if !defined(OS_IRIX) && !defined(OS_VMS) && !defined(OS_MSDOS) &&
!defined(OS_UNIX) && !defined(OS_VXWORKS) && !defined(OS_WINNT)
#error MIDAS cannot be used on this operating system
#endif


Perhaps I should not use Xcode?
Perhaps I won't need Midas.h?

The MIDAS system is running on my MAC but I need to add a very simple front end
for testing and I encounted this error.