> 
> I find that I don't understand this recommendation to use secure mongoose 
> instead of putting mhttpd behind an apache proxy.
>

This is a very valid question.

I think for a small operation that does not require root access to the host computer, mhttpd+mongoose is a good light weight solution.

For a more elaborate setup with private networks, etc, apache https proxy is probably better - for big experiments, resources like webcams,
ganglia, couchdb, etc also need password protection and apache https is the one stone to kill all birds. (one bird to kill all pigs).

Which one is easier to setup?

mhttpd+mongoose I tried to make simple - you have to create a password file and (optional) a properly signed https certificate.
apache httpd is fairly straightforward if you follow well written instructions (such as we provide for using it with midas). but you do need root access
and you do have to edit a good number of config files.

Which one is secure?

By one definition - will it pass muster with central IT - only apache httpd is secure.

At CERN all we have to say "we use password protected apache httpd HTTPS proxy" and they say "ok!".

If we were to say "we use custom web server based on some strange version of mongoose, customized", they will probably raise some eyebrows.

And keeping central IT happy is important if you want holes in their firewall for off-site access to MIDAS.

Now, which one is secure?

The default distribution of apache httpd in SL6 is insecure. period. some steps to secure it are non-controversial - disable SSLv2, SSLv3, disable RC4 ciphers. This is not enough to pass 
muster with the SSLlabs scanner. One should also disable some obsolete and known-weak ciphers. This will disable some old web browsers and is a more controversial step. (see the SSLlabs 
reports).

The default distribution of mhttpd+mongoose passes muster with SSLlabs and on the strength of that I deem it "secure out of the box". One can suggest alternative security tools and one 
can/should run the SSLlabs scanner against mhttpd after each update, report problems as a bug to midas.

Now, which one is *secure*?

Both apache httpd and mongoose are based on OpenSSL which has been recently demonstrated to be severely insecure. (look into the OpenBSD fork of OpenSSL).

There are alternative HTTPS libraries, such as PolarSSL, which are intended for embedding into other applications and devices - such as into mhttpd or into MSCB-ethernet boxes -
and I hope mongoose/fossa will make the switch by the end of the year. (a compatibility layer for using mongoose with PolarSSL already exists).

So, which one to use?

- for maximum security, use httpd apache (but remember to restrict access to mhttpd web port to be "only from the proxy")
- for light-weight cases, or when root access is not available use built-in https in mhttpd.

The midas wiki documentation should probably be updated to explain all of this.

K.O.