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    Reply  03 May 2024, Stefan Ritt, Suggestion, Possible addition to IF Statements  
The tinyexpr library I use to evaluate expressions does not support boolean operations. I would have to switch to the newer 
tineyexpr-plusplus version, which also has much richer functionality:

https://github.com/Blake-Madden/tinyexpr-plusplus/blob/tinyexpr%2B%2B/TinyExprChanges.md

Unfortunately it requires C++17, and at the moment we limit MIDAS to C++11, meaning we would break this requirement. I 
believe at the moment there are still some experiments (mainly at TRIUMF) which are stuck to older OS and therefore cannot 
switch to C++17, but hopefully this will change over time.

Stefan
Entry  22 Jun 2024, Joseph McKenna, Suggestion, manalyzer thread safety and custom http IP binding 
Hi all, I hope this is the right place to post two pull requests, if not, please let me know where I should be submitting them

Both are fairly small changes, please see them listed below (more details written on the PRs themselves)


- Enable ROOT's thread safety when running in multithreaded mode

This helps avoid users having to write their call to a global thread lock when calling ->Fill() on ROOT histograms and Trees
https://bitbucket.org/tmidas/manalyzer/pull-requests/5


- Add command argument to specify an IP of the root HTTP server to bind to

This was a problem I painted around when at ALPHA (quickly hardcoding the right external IP address into the local build. Obviously a bad habit)
https://bitbucket.org/tmidas/manalyzer/pull-requests/6
Entry  04 Jul 2024, Pavel Murat, Suggestion, cmake-installing more files ? midas-spack.patch
Dear all, 

this posting results from the Fermilab move to a new packaging/build system called spack 
which doesn't allow to use the MIDAS install procedure described at

https://daq00.triumf.ca/MidasWiki/index.php/Quickstart_Linux#MIDAS_Package_Installation

as is. Spack specifics aside, building MIDAS under spack took  
a) adding cmake install for three directories: drivers, resources, and python/midas, 
b) adding one more include file - include/tinyexpr.h - to the list of includes installed by cmake.

With those changes I was able to point MIDASSYS to the spack install area and successfully run mhttpd, 
build experiment-specific C++ frontends and drivers, use experiment-specific python frontends etc. 
I'm not using anything from MIDAS submodules though.

I'm wondering what the experts would think about accepting the changes above to the main tree. 

Installation procedures and changed to cmake files are always a sensitive area with a lot of boundary 
constraints coming from the existing use patterns, and even a minor change could have unexpected consequences
So I wouldn't be surprised if the fairly minor changes outlined above had side effects.

The patch file is attached for consideration.

-- regards, Pasha
    Reply  05 Jul 2024, Joseph McKenna, Suggestion, shared pointers for more flexible memory managment of the analysis 'flow' and TMEvent 
> Hi all, I hope this is the right place to post two pull requests, if not, please let me know where I should be submitting them
> 
> Both are fairly small changes, please see them listed below (more details written on the PRs themselves)
> 
> 
> - Enable ROOT's thread safety when running in multithreaded mode
> 
> This helps avoid users having to write their call to a global thread lock when calling ->Fill() on ROOT histograms and Trees
> https://bitbucket.org/tmidas/manalyzer/pull-requests/5
> 
> 
> - Add command argument to specify an IP of the root HTTP server to bind to
> 
> This was a problem I painted around when at ALPHA (quickly hardcoding the right external IP address into the local build. Obviously a bad habit)
> https://bitbucket.org/tmidas/manalyzer/pull-requests/6

Further to the pull manalyzer pull requests, I have another feature I would like to add. Took a little longer to test than planned... here I present an effort to use smart pointers to manage the lifetime of TMEvents and TAFlow.

I will be interested to discuss the implications of this pull request (its possible to return to previous 'raw' pointers via a cmake toggle)

https://bitbucket.org/tmidas/manalyzer/pull-requests/8
    Reply  05 Jul 2024, Joseph McKenna, Suggestion, Clean up compiler warning in manalyzer 
This is a super small pull request, simple replace deprecated sprintf with snprintf

https://bitbucket.org/tmidas/manalyzer/pull-requests/9
    Reply  06 Aug 2024, Stefan Ritt, Suggestion, cmake-installing more files ? 
I don't see any bad side effects at the moment, so I accepted the changes and committed them.

Stefan
Entry  30 Aug 2024, Marius Koeppel, Suggestion, Improve Event Documentation 
Hi,

I am writing a Rust based midas file reader however it was kind of hard to understand the full midas file 
structure from the documentation.

Only at the end of the page 
https://daq00.triumf.ca/MidasWiki/index.php/Event_Structure#MIDAS_Format_Event one finds under the 
headline “tape format” that there are special events which mark the start and the end of the run. It would 
be better to place this information more prominent maybe we a headline: “Special Events”. Maybe a link to 
this section at the top of the page could help. Also at the mlogger page there is no information about this.

Best,
Marius
    Reply  01 Sep 2024, Stefan Ritt, Suggestion, Improve Event Documentation 
> Hi,
> 
> I am writing a Rust based midas file reader however it was kind of hard to understand the full midas file 
> structure from the documentation.
> 
> Only at the end of the page 
> https://daq00.triumf.ca/MidasWiki/index.php/Event_Structure#MIDAS_Format_Event one finds under the 
> headline “tape format” that there are special events which mark the start and the end of the run. It would 
> be better to place this information more prominent maybe we a headline: “Special Events”. Maybe a link to 
> this section at the top of the page could help. Also at the mlogger page there is no information about this.
> 
> Best,
> Marius

Ben was so kind to update the event documentation:

  https://daq00.triumf.ca/MidasWiki/index.php/Event_Structure

Please have a look and let us know if that's better now.

Best,
Stefan
    Reply  01 Sep 2024, Marius Koeppel, Suggestion, Improve Event Documentation 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I am writing a Rust based midas file reader however it was kind of hard to understand the full midas file 
> > structure from the documentation.
> > 
> > Only at the end of the page 
> > https://daq00.triumf.ca/MidasWiki/index.php/Event_Structure#MIDAS_Format_Event one finds under the 
> > headline “tape format” that there are special events which mark the start and the end of the run. It would 
> > be better to place this information more prominent maybe we a headline: “Special Events”. Maybe a link to 
> > this section at the top of the page could help. Also at the mlogger page there is no information about this.
> > 
> > Best,
> > Marius
> 
> Ben was so kind to update the event documentation:
> 
>   https://daq00.triumf.ca/MidasWiki/index.php/Event_Structure
> 
> Please have a look and let us know if that's better now.
> 
> Best,
> Stefan

Thank you Ben! Now its super clear!
    Reply  02 Sep 2024, Daniel Duque, Suggestion, Improve Event Documentation 
> I am writing a Rust based midas file reader

You might find this library I wrote useful: https://crates.io/crates/midasio

It should "just work", and if it doesn't, I would be interested to know.
    Reply  02 Sep 2024, Marius Koeppel, Suggestion, Improve Event Documentation 
> > I am writing a Rust based midas file reader
> 
> You might find this library I wrote useful: https://crates.io/crates/midasio
> 
> It should "just work", and if it doesn't, I would be interested to know.

Nice! I did not know about this. I have now also one simple reader but yours looks much more advanced. My 
overall idea here is to connect directly to midas so having some frontend features to analyze the data etc. do 
you also have already a library for this? I can also extend your stuff.

Best,
Marius
    Reply  02 Sep 2024, Daniel Duque, Suggestion, Improve Event Documentation 
> My overall idea here is to connect directly to midas so having some frontend features to analyze the data etc. do 
> you also have already a library for this? I can also extend your stuff.

No, sadly I don't have something like this yet. It has been on my "fun things to do at some point" list for too
long, but I haven't had the time.

If you start working on something like this, please keep me in the loop/link a repo here. I would be interested
on keeping an eye/contributing to something like this :)
    Reply  11 Sep 2024, Konstantin Olchanski, Suggestion, Improve Event Documentation 
> I am writing a Rust based midas file reader however it was kind of hard to understand the full midas file 
> structure from the documentation.

MIDAS is old-school, when the code was the documentation.

This is very noticeable when you try to document things MIDAS (as I have done many times).

For MIDAS data format, file level and bank level, best if you look at my midasio library (included with MIDAS 
git clone) and translate it to Rust directly. I think a Rust version of C++ midasio would be very welcome.

Many data fields in MIDAS files are mysterious and I reverse-engineered them the best I could.

The main problems were:
- data padding
- "length" fields include padding or not?
- identification of big-endian vs little-endian data
- probably something I forget

K.O.
    Reply  13 Sep 2024, Konstantin Olchanski, Suggestion, manalyzer thread safety and custom http IP binding 
> - Enable ROOT's thread safety when running in multithreaded mode
> This helps avoid users having to write their call to a global thread lock when calling ->Fill() on ROOT histograms and Trees
> https://bitbucket.org/tmidas/manalyzer/pull-requests/5

merged by hand. (pull request shows a "rejected", bitbucket has no "merged manually" button).

also noted this change in the documentation: README.md

K.O.
    Reply  13 Sep 2024, Konstantin Olchanski, Suggestion, Clean up compiler warning in manalyzer 
> This is a super small pull request, simple replace deprecated sprintf with snprintf
> https://bitbucket.org/tmidas/manalyzer/pull-requests/9

sprintf() is not deprecated and "char buf[256]; sprintf(buf, "%05d", 64-bit-int);" is safe, will never overflow.

we could bulk-convert all these sprintf() to snprintf() but I would rather wait for this:

https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/utility/format/format

let me think on this for a bit.

K.O.
    Reply  20 Sep 2024, Joseph McKenna, Suggestion, Clean up compiler warning in manalyzer 
> > This is a super small pull request, simple replace deprecated sprintf with snprintf
> > https://bitbucket.org/tmidas/manalyzer/pull-requests/9
> 
> sprintf() is not deprecated and "char buf[256]; sprintf(buf, "%05d", 64-bit-int);" is safe, will never overflow.
> 
> we could bulk-convert all these sprintf() to snprintf() but I would rather wait for this:
> 
> https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/utility/format/format
> 
> let me think on this for a bit.
> 
> K.O.

I completely agree that the 64-bit int is safe and will never overflow. Doing a little digging, both clang and gcc don't raise warnings on x86_64 (even with -Wall -Wextra -Wpedantic), even when I give it a buffer impossibly small (two bytes). However I've narrowed down the depreciation warning comes from: MacOS

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/kernel/1441083-sprintf

I like the look of std::format, looks cleaner than string streams
    Reply  20 Sep 2024, Stefan Ritt, Suggestion, Clean up compiler warning in manalyzer 
> I like the look of std::format, looks cleaner than string streams

I fully agree. String streams is a pain if you want to do zero-leading hex output mixed with decimal output. Yes it's easier to read if you don't know printf syntax,
but 10-20 times more chars to write and not necessarily cleaner.

Proble is that we would have to convert about a few thousand of sprintf's() in midas.

Stefan
    Reply  24 Sep 2024, Konstantin Olchanski, Suggestion, Clean up compiler warning in manalyzer 
> > I like the look of std::format, looks cleaner than string streams
> 
> I fully agree. String streams is a pain if you want to do zero-leading hex output mixed with decimal output. Yes it's easier to read if you don't know printf syntax,
> but 10-20 times more chars to write and not necessarily cleaner.
>

IMO c++ string streams formatting is optimized for "hello world" and is useless for printing hex numbers, table-formatted data and generally anything real-life.

plus the borked std::to_string() (it takes a global lock for the "C" locale), "fixed" it by introducing std::to_chars() in C++17,
with "ultimate fix" in std::format in C++26.

no question why C++ has the bad reputation. for a "done right" example, take a look at the Go standard library.

> 
> Probable is that we would have to convert about a few thousand of sprintf's() in midas.
> 

surprising few bare sprintf() remaining in MIDAS, most of them overflow-safe and most of them to be converted to msprintf().

K.O.
Entry  09 Oct 2024, Lukas Gerritzen, Suggestion, odbedit minor quality of life 
I have made two minor quality of life changes to odbedit.
  • cd command: Typing cd without arguments now changes the directory to /, similar to the behaviour of the cd command in Linux sending you to the home directory.
  • Exit behavior: Upon exiting the program with Ctrl+C, a newline character is printed so that the command line starts on an empty line rather than the last line from odbedit.
Here's the diff:
@@ -1668,7 +1668,10 @@ int command_loop(char *host_name, char *exp_name, char *cmd, char *start_dir)

       /* cd */
       else if (param[0][0] == 'c' && param[0][1] == 'd') {
-         compose_name(pwd, param[1], str);
+         if (strlen(param[1]) == 0)
+            strcpy(str, "/");
+         else
+            compose_name(pwd, param[1], str);

          status = db_find_key(hDB, 0, str, &hKey);

@@ -2962,6 +2965,7 @@ void ctrlc_odbedit(INT i)

    cm_disconnect_experiment();

+   printf("\n");
    exit(EXIT_SUCCESS);
 }

Please consider incorporating those changes to odbedit.

Lukas
    Reply  09 Oct 2024, Stefan Ritt, Suggestion, odbedit minor quality of life 
Ok, accepted, done and pushed.

Stefan


Lukas Gerritzen wrote:
I have made two minor quality of life changes to odbedit.
  • cd command: Typing cd without arguments now changes the directory to /, similar to the behaviour of the cd command in Linux sending you to the home directory.
  • Exit behavior: Upon exiting the program with Ctrl+C, a newline character is printed so that the command line starts on an empty line rather than the last line from odbedit.
Here's the diff:
@@ -1668,7 +1668,10 @@ int command_loop(char *host_name, char *exp_name, char *cmd, char *start_dir)

       /* cd */
       else if (param[0][0] == 'c' && param[0][1] == 'd') {
-         compose_name(pwd, param[1], str);
+         if (strlen(param[1]) == 0)
+            strcpy(str, "/");
+         else
+            compose_name(pwd, param[1], str);

          status = db_find_key(hDB, 0, str, &hKey);

@@ -2962,6 +2965,7 @@ void ctrlc_odbedit(INT i)

    cm_disconnect_experiment();

+   printf("\n");
    exit(EXIT_SUCCESS);
 }

Please consider incorporating those changes to odbedit.

Lukas
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