> 1) it would be nice to have an option to format the label output (see attachment 1)

I fixed that in the current version.

Stefan

> This I found out, yet the attachment here shows another case where it would be useful to be
> able to disable the background, namely if you have positive and negative measures in one
> plot. Somehow it suggests that CH1 and CH2 show very different values, whereas it is only a
> difference in the sign of this variables.

Ok, I added an option which lets you switch off the background. 

I also changed the background drawing such that it only goes to the y=0 axis, not the bottom of the screen. 
That should help displaying negative values.

Stefan

> This I found out, yet the attachment here shows another case where it would be useful to be
> able to disable the background, namely if you have positive and negative measures in one
> plot. Somehow it suggests that CH1 and CH2 show very different values, whereas it is only a
> difference in the sign of this variables.

Ok, I added 

- a correction which does the fill not to the bottom of the window, but only to the y=0 axis.
- a flag "Show graph fille" which lets you turn on and off the filling for each plot

Best,
Stefan

    for (INT i = 0; i < hv_info->num_channels; i++) {
      char element[HKEY_STRING_LENGTH];
      snprintf(element, HKEY_STRING_LENGTH, "%s[%d]", path, i);
      if (db_find_key(hDB, hv_info->hKeyRoot, element, &hKey) == DB_SUCCESS) {
        if ((hv_info->driver[i]->flags & flag) == 0) 
          db_open_record(hDB, hKey, &array[i], sizeof(double), MODE_READ, callback, pequipment);
        else
          db_open_record(hDB, hKey, &array[i], sizeof(double), MODE_READ, NULL, NULL);
      } else {
        cm_msg(MERROR, __func__, "Key %s not found", element);
      }
    }

> > 2) the background of a history plot is very handy if you only show one measure.
> > If you have multiple ones (see attachment 2), this is not the case anymore. It
> > would be nice if the background could be enabled/disabled.
> 
> Looking at your plot, even without the background things look messy. Please note
> that you can display only a single curve by double clicking on it (and back with Escape).
> If all curves are on top of each other, you can get them apart a bit by zooming
> in to the vertical axis, then double click. Let ma know if that works for you.

This I found out, yet the attachment here shows another case where it would be useful to be
able to disable the background, namely if you have positive and negative measures in one
plot. Somehow it suggests that CH1 and CH2 show very different values, whereas it is only a
difference in the sign of this variables.

It's not all the important but I would like to mention this is the early stage before
everything is fully frozen.

> 1) it would be nice to have an option to format the label output (see attachment 1)

That's clearly a bug, I will fix it.

 
> 2) the background of a history plot is very handy if you only show one measure.
> If you have multiple ones (see attachment 2), this is not the case anymore. It
> would be nice if the background could be enabled/disabled.

Looking at your plot, even without the background things look messy. Please note
that you can display only a single curve by double clicking on it (and back with Escape).
If all curves are on top of each other, you can get them apart a bit by zooming
in to the vertical axis, then double click. Let ma know if that works for you.

Best regards,
Stefan

I like the new history system very much, but I stumbled over a couple of issues.
I used the version "Thu Aug 29 08:24:29 2019 +0200 -
midas-2019-06-b-244-gdd6585bb on branch develop":

1) it would be nice to have an option to format the label output (see attachment 1)

2) the background of a history plot is very handy if you only show one measure.
If you have multiple ones (see attachment 2), this is not the case anymore. It
would be nice if the background could be enabled/disabled.

> During my visit at TRIUMF we rewrote the history plotting functionality of
midas. Instead of 
> static GIF images, we have now interactive JavaScript panels where we can
scroll, zoom, 
> inspect values and much more (example is attached). We are now in a state
where this is still 
> work in progress, but already at this stage it might be useful for others to
report any 
> feedback.
> 
> Simply upgrade the the newest develop branch of midas, and you will see two
menu items 
> "OldHistory" which is the old system and "History" which is the new system. In
the new 
> system, you can drag with the mouse to scroll, use the mouse wheel to zoom in
and out the 
> time axis, and hover with your mouse over data points to see its value. If you
zoom out, 
> old data is loaded automatically in the background.
> 
> Following items are planned, but not yet implemented:
> 
> - Printing of run markers as in the old history
> 
> - Delete old data in the buffer to limit memory consumption if the browser
window is 
>    open for very long (weeks)
> 
> - Implement time interval selector (clock icon, select "last day", "last 8
hours" etc.)
> 
> - New settings dialog as a floating dialog box. At the moment, the setting
page of the 
>    old history system is used
> 
> - Export / Printing / Sending to ELOG any history plot
> 
> - Implement a formula for plotting data, such as "y = 12 * (x-14) +32". This
will replace 
>    the old "offset" and "factor" and is more flexible. The formula can be
passed directly 
>    to the JavaScript engine and will be executed on the web page. It should be
also 
>    possible to combine different channels, like the difference of two history
values.
> 
> - Determine the number of digits for variable display from the axis limits.
Like if a value 
>    changes between 520001 and 520002 only, we need more digits than the usual 6.
> 
> Many of these things will be implemented in the next weeks. If you have any
more idea 
> or find some bugs, please report back to me.
> 
> Best,
> Stefan for the midas team

Hi Ben,

thanks for your reply. I can confirm that your suggested workaround does indeed
make the problem dissapear.

I guess this issue hasn't been seen at T2K since we use MYSQL for the history.

Thanks,

Nick.

Hi Ben,

thanks for your reply. I can confirm that your suggested workaround does indeed
make the problem dissapear.

I guess this issue hasn't been seen at T2K since we use MYSQL for the history.

Thanks,

Nick.

Hi LCP,

thanks for the suggestion and link. Unfortunatly I don't think this explains it.

Nick.

Hi Nick,

I confirm that this issue appears when using the MIDAS history driver. The issue does not appear when using the MYSQL history driver.

One solution is to give each frontend instance a different Event ID (see example code below for doing this in frontend_init). The history system did still seem to be confused by the existing FeDummy equipments/events even after making this change. However, after changing EQ_NAME from FeDummy to FeDum (i.e. starting from a clean state history-wise) things behaved normally.

I will note that some experiments definitely have a need for the "-i" method, especially those that run on distributed clusters.

Ben


```
INT frontend_init()
{
   sprintf(eq_name, "%s%02d", EQ_NAME, get_frontend_index());

   // Ensure each FE gets a different Event ID in the history system (951, 952 etc)
   char keyname[128];
   HNDLE hkey;
   int status;
   sprintf(keyname, "/Equipment/%s/Common/Event ID", eq_name);
   status = db_find_key(hDB, 0, keyname, &hkey);
   if (status != DB_SUCCESS) abort();

   WORD new_ev_id = 950 + get_frontend_index();
   status = db_set_data_index(hDB, hkey, &new_ev_id, 2, 0, TID_WORD);
   if (status != DB_SUCCESS) abort();
   return SUCCESS;
}
```

hi, 

> > That makes things more 
> > complicated than needed. In the normal FE framework, you can define either several equipment 
> > served by one frontend, or even one equipment linked to several devices. In the MEG experiment 
> > we have one slow control frontend controlling ~100 devices without problem. In the old days 
> there 
> > was a problem that some slow devices could throttle the readout, but since the invention of 
> multi-
> > threaded slow control equipment, each device gets its own thread so they don't block each 
> other.
> 

I agree with Stefan, that it's probably better to run a multi-threaded setup, than individual frontends.

The only place I've ever used the frontend index on startup is when I was testing and building
an eventbuilder.

https://midas.triumf.ca/MidasWiki/index.php/Event_Builder#Example

This might explain, why your history is swapping between frontends, as in the event builder, it gets
reconstructed.

Maybe this helps...

LCP


> Perhaps things have changed in the 10 years since the FGD SC code was written. I can do it 
> differently but doing it that way seemed naturual since around 90% of the frontend code that I
> have see does it that way.

Hi Stefan,

thanks for you quick reply.

> My first question would be why are you using several font-ends at all?

Becuase I was following the model used for many of the frontends for the ND280 FGD.

> That makes things more 
> complicated than needed. In the normal FE framework, you can define either several equipment 
> served by one frontend, or even one equipment linked to several devices. In the MEG experiment 
> we have one slow control frontend controlling ~100 devices without problem. In the old days 
there 
> was a problem that some slow devices could throttle the readout, but since the invention of 
multi-
> threaded slow control equipment, each device gets its own thread so they don't block each 
other.

Perhaps things have changed in the 10 years since the FGD SC code was written. I can do it 
differently but doing it that way seemed naturual since around 90% of the frontend code that I
have see does it that way.

Nick.

My first question would be why are you using several font-ends at all? That makes things more 
complicated than needed. In the normal FE framework, you can define either several equipment 
served by one frontend, or even one equipment linked to several devices. In the MEG experiment 
we have one slow control frontend controlling ~100 devices without problem. In the old days there 
was a problem that some slow devices could throttle the readout, but since the invention of multi-
threaded slow control equipment, each device gets its own thread so they don't block each other.

Stefan

Hello experts,

I have been writing a SC frontend for a powersupply. I have used the model 
where the frontend can be started with "-i n" option so that each fe can 
control a different supply. During the development/testing of the program I 
would normally only run a single instance with "-i 1". However when I started
a second instance with "-i 2" I found problems with the history plots that
were being made for the original "-i 1" instance. The variable being plotted
seemed to randomly jump between the value from the "-i 1" instance and 
the "-i 2" instance.  confirmed that the "correct" values exist for each 
frontend in the odb under /Equipment/Foo01/Variables and 
/Equipment/Foo02/Variables

This is also not just a plotting artifact since I was also
able to see the two different values by running mhist.

I saw this behaviour using midas-2019-03 and also the head of the development
branch (686e4de2b55023b0d1936c60bcf4767c5e6caac0 from just under 48 hours ago). 

I was able to reproduce this with a stripped down frontend that just 
sets a variable that is equal to its frontend_index. Please find the code 
and Makefile attached. Presumably I've done something wrong in my 
implementation that hopefully a more experienced person can spot quite 
quickly, but please let me know if any more information is needed.

I have seen this behaviour on both Debian 10 and on a CentOS 7 Singularity 
image running on top of Debian 10.

Thanks,

Nick.

P.S. I made the topic of this post "Forum" and not "Bug Report" since I
expect the root of this problem is somewhere between the keyboard and chair.

> -  ss_suspend_set_dispatch_ipc(NULL);
> +  //  ss_suspend_set_dispatch_ipc(NULL);
> 
> This compiles and at least runs for me; so maybe that is helpful for you.  But Konstantin will provide a longer term solution.

I now understand why this fix worked. Around December 2018 timeframe, I reworked the MIDAS event buffer code
and one improvement was to only send UDP buffer notifications if somebody is waiting for them. This probably
reduced to zero the probability of recursive calls to the user event handler - the problem originally fixed by the monkey
work against the midas ipc handler.

After looking at it, I now understand that the correct solution is to call ss_suspend(MSG_BM), but it turns out
inside MIDAS, handling of MSG_BM was incomplete and recursive calls to the user event handler were still
possible. (but most likely not actually happening anymore because of those changes to the event buffer code).

So.

a) ss_suspend(MSG_BM) inside midas now works correctly, recursive call to the user event handler will not happen.
b) TMidasOnline::sleep() now calls ss_suspend(MSG_BM), monkey business with ss_suspend_set_dispatch_ipc() is removed.

The problem of recursive call to the analyzer event handler is now fixed, both rootana and manalyzer (both use the same TMidasOnline code).

Read more about this here:
https://midas.triumf.ca/elog/Midas/1663

K.O.

The ROOTANA midas analyzer uncovered a problem with recursive use of ss_suspend().

When running in graphical mode, the ROOT graphics main event loop was calling 
ss_suspend(0) (no MSG_BM) which would sometimes call the user event handler (if a new 
event arrives into the midas event buffer). Because this loop was already running in the 
user event handler, there was a crash.

This is the calling sequence leading to the incorrect recursion: (from system.cxx comments 
to ss_suspend())

analyzer ->
     -> cm_yield() in the main loop
     -> ss_suspend(0)
     -> MSG_BM message arrives in the UDP socket
     -> ss_suspend_process_ipc(0)
     -> cm_dispatch_ipc()
     -> bm_push_event()
     -> bm_push_buffer()
     -> bm_read_buffer()
     -> bm_dispatch_event()
     -> user event handler
     -> user event handler ROOT graphics main loop needs to sleep
     -> ss_suspend(0) <--- should be ss_suspend(MSG_BM)!!!     
     -> MSG_BM message arrives in the UDP socket
     -> ss_suspend_process_ipc(0) <- should be ss_suspend_process_ipc(MSG_BM)!!!
     -> cm_dispatch_ipc() <- without MSG_BM, calling cm_dispatch_ipc() again
     -> bm_push_event()
     -> bm_push_buffer()
     -> bm_read_buffer()
     -> bm_dispatch_event()
     -> user event handler <---- called recursively, very bad!

The proper fix for this is to always call ss_suspend(MSG_BM) from the user event handler 
and ss_suspend(MSG_ODB) from the user db_watch handler.

In this second case, ss_suspend(MSG_OBM) will lose/ignore/discard db_watch notifications, 
if you do not want that, call ss_suspend(0) and be ready for recursive calls to your 
db_watch handler. (this can happen in a frontend program that acts on changes in ODB and 
where some of these actions may require sleeping via ss_suspend()).

ss_suspend(MSG_BM) will discard MSG_BM messages, which is not a problem as 
bm_wait_for_events() and cm_yield() will immediately poll the event buffer and there will be 
no delay in receiving new events.

Until commit 99d6e90 there were problems in ss_suspend(MSG_BM) and recursive calls to 
the user event handler were still possible. It is now fixed in this and the previous commits.

K.O.

During my visit at TRIUMF we rewrote the history plotting functionality of midas. Instead of 
static GIF images, we have now interactive JavaScript panels where we can scroll, zoom, 
inspect values and much more (example is attached). We are now in a state where this is still 
work in progress, but already at this stage it might be useful for others to report any 
feedback.

Simply upgrade the the newest develop branch of midas, and you will see two menu items 
"OldHistory" which is the old system and "History" which is the new system. In the new 
system, you can drag with the mouse to scroll, use the mouse wheel to zoom in and out the 
time axis, and hover with your mouse over data points to see its value. If you zoom out, 
old data is loaded automatically in the background.

Following items are planned, but not yet implemented:

- Printing of run markers as in the old history

- Delete old data in the buffer to limit memory consumption if the browser window is 
   open for very long (weeks)

- Implement time interval selector (clock icon, select "last day", "last 8 hours" etc.)

- New settings dialog as a floating dialog box. At the moment, the setting page of the 
   old history system is used

- Export / Printing / Sending to ELOG any history plot

- Implement a formula for plotting data, such as "y = 12 * (x-14) +32". This will replace 
   the old "offset" and "factor" and is more flexible. The formula can be passed directly 
   to the JavaScript engine and will be executed on the web page. It should be also 
   possible to combine different channels, like the difference of two history values.

- Determine the number of digits for variable display from the axis limits. Like if a value 
   changes between 520001 and 520002 only, we need more digits than the usual 6.

Many of these things will be implemented in the next weeks. If you have any more idea 
or find some bugs, please report back to me.

Best,
Stefan for the midas team

> Lacking any ideas for improvements, I vote for the status quo. (plus a review of the documentation to ensure we have clearly
> written up what each entry in "common" does and whether the user is permitted to edit it in odb).

I agree with that.

Stefan

> How do I solve mismatched declarations in the mfe (or other places in the midas code)?

I run into such problems all the time. My solution? I grep for the function name in my code and in the header file,
then look very carefully at the definition to confirm that all the argument declarations are the same in both
places. Sometimes my eyes do not see the difference and I ask for a "second pair of eyes".

In your case, you have a mismatch between functions in mfe.h and in your frontend. The difference
is "int source" in mfe.h and "int source[]" in your code.

Because C++ permits functions with identical namesm but different arguments, the compiler thinks
you did this on purpose and does not complain. Later, of course, the linker bombs,
but all it can report at this stage, is what you see "function not found"... Then you grep your code
for the missing function, check arguments, rinse, repeat.

Before C++, the C compiler would probably had complained about the mismatch, except that MIDAS
did not have an mfe.h header file definitions for all this stuff until just now, so again, the mismatch would
have gone unnoticed, unfixed.

K.O.



> It is having issues with the midas defined BOOL/... types. This 
> is what I get for a minimal scfe:
> 
> [ 12%] Building CXX object CMakeFiles/sc_fe_mini.dir/sc_fe_mini.cpp.o
> [ 25%] Building CXX object CMakeFiles/sc_fe_mini.dir/home/frederik/packages/midas/drivers/class/hv.cxx.o
> [ 37%] Building CXX object CMakeFiles/sc_fe_mini.dir/home/frederik/packages/midas/drivers/class/multi.cxx.o
> [ 50%] Building CXX object CMakeFiles/sc_fe_mini.dir/home/frederik/packages/midas/drivers/device/nulldev.cxx.o
> [ 62%] Building CXX object CMakeFiles/sc_fe_mini.dir/home/frederik/packages/midas/drivers/bus/null.cxx.o
> [ 75%] Building CXX object CMakeFiles/sc_fe_mini.dir/home/frederik/packages/midas/drivers/device/mscbdev.cxx.o
> [ 87%] Building CXX object CMakeFiles/sc_fe_mini.dir/home/frederik/packages/midas/mscb/src/mscb.cxx.o
> [100%] Linking CXX executable sc_fe_mini
> /home/frederik/packages/midas/build/libmfe.a(mfe.cxx.o): In function `_readout_thread':
> /home/frederik/packages/midas/src/mfe.cxx:1271: undefined reference to `poll_event(int, int, unsigned int)'
> /home/frederik/packages/midas/build/libmfe.a(mfe.cxx.o): In function `check_polled_events':
> /home/frederik/packages/midas/src/mfe.cxx:1601: undefined reference to `poll_event(int, int, unsigned int)'
> /home/frederik/packages/midas/src/mfe.cxx:1643: undefined reference to `poll_event(int, int, unsigned int)'
> /home/frederik/packages/midas/build/libmfe.a(mfe.cxx.o): In function `readout_enable(unsigned int)':
> /home/frederik/packages/midas/src/mfe.cxx:1158: undefined reference to `interrupt_configure(int, int, long)'
> /home/frederik/packages/midas/src/mfe.cxx:1156: undefined reference to `interrupt_configure(int, int, long)'
> /home/frederik/packages/midas/build/libmfe.a(mfe.cxx.o): In function `initialize_equipment':
> /home/frederik/packages/midas/src/mfe.cxx:614: undefined reference to `interrupt_configure(int, int, long)'
> /home/frederik/packages/midas/src/mfe.cxx:649: undefined reference to `poll_event(int, int, unsigned int)'
> /home/frederik/packages/midas/build/libmfe.a(mfe.cxx.o): In function `scheduler':
> /home/frederik/packages/midas/src/mfe.cxx:1890: undefined reference to `poll_event(int, int, unsigned int)'
> /home/frederik/packages/midas/src/mfe.cxx:1932: undefined reference to `poll_event(int, int, unsigned int)'
> /home/frederik/packages/midas/build/libmfe.a(mfe.cxx.o): In function `main':
> /home/frederik/packages/midas/src/mfe.cxx:2701: undefined reference to `interrupt_configure(int, int, long)'
> /home/frederik/packages/midas/src/mfe.cxx:2702: undefined reference to `interrupt_configure(int, int, long)'
> collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
> make[2]: *** [sc_fe_mini] Error 1
> make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/sc_fe_mini.dir/all] Error 2
> make: *** [all] Error 2
> 
> 
> This is my cmakelists for my user code:
> 
> #
> # cmake for the muX software
> #
> cmake_minimum_required(VERSION 3.3)
> 
> project(muX)
> 
> #
> # find installations
> #
> set(MIDAS_DIR $ENV{MIDASSYS})
> message("MIDAS dir: " ${MIDAS_DIR})
> 
> #
> # set directories
> #
> set(MIDASBUILD_DIR ${MIDAS_DIR}/build)
> set(MIDASINCLUDE_DIR ${MIDAS_DIR}/include)
> set(MXML_DIR ${MIDAS_DIR}/mxml)
> set(MSCB_DIR ${MIDAS_DIR}/mscb)
> set(DRV_DIR ${MIDAS_DIR}/drivers)
> 
> 
> #
> # drivers, libs
> #
> set(DRIVERS
>     ${MIDAS_DIR}/drivers/class/hv
>     ${MIDAS_DIR}/drivers/class/multi
>     ${MIDAS_DIR}/drivers/device/nulldev
>     ${MIDAS_DIR}/drivers/bus/null
> )
> set(MIDASLIB ${MIDASBUILD_DIR}/libmidas.a)
> set(FELIB ${MIDASBUILD_DIR}/libmfe.a)
> 
> #
> # sc_fe
> #
> add_executable(sc_fe_mini
>         sc_fe_mini.cpp
>         ${DRIVERS}
>         ${MIDAS_DIR}/drivers/device/mscbdev
>         ${MIDAS_DIR}/mscb/src/mscb)
> 
> target_include_directories(sc_fe_mini PRIVATE ${DRV_DIR} ${MIDAS_DIR}/mscb/include ${MIDAS_DIR}/include)
> target_link_libraries(sc_fe_mini ${LIBS} ${MIDASLIB} ${FELIB} rt pthread util)
> 
> 
> 
> I seem to be able to compile the current midas distributions, including the scfe frontend
> 
> 
> 
> > To convert a MIDAS frontend to C++ follow this checklist:
> > 
> > a) add #include "mfe.h" after include of midas.h and fix all compilation errors.
> > 
> > NOTE: there should be no "extern C"  brackets around MIDAS include files.
> > 
> > NOTE: Expect to see following problems:
> > 
> > a1) duplicate or mismatched declarations of functions defined in mfe.h
> > a2) frontend_name and frontend_file_name should be "const char*" instead of "char*"
> > a3) duplicate "HNDLE hDB" collision with hDB from mfe.c - not sure why it worked before, either use HNDLE hDB from mfe.h or use "extern HNDLE hDB".
> > a4) poll_event() and interrupt_configure() have "source" as "int[]" instead of "int" (why did this work before?)
> > a5) use of "extern int frontend_index" instead of get_frontend_index() from mfe.h
> > a6) bk_create() last argument needs to be cast to (void**)
> > a7) "bool debug" collides with "debug" from mfe.h (why did this work before?)
> > 
> > b) remove no longer needed "extern C" brackets around mfe related code. Ideally there should be no "extern C" brackets anywhere.
> > 
> > c) in the Makefile, change CC=gcc to CC=g++ for compiling and linking everything as C++
> > 
> > c1) fix all compilation problems. most valid C code will compile as valid C++, but there is some known trouble:
> > - return value of malloc() & co needs to be cast to the correct data type: "char* s = (char*)malloc(...)"
> > - some C++ compilers complain about mismatch between signed and unsigned values
> > 
> > If you need help with converting your frontend from C to C++, I will be most happy
> > to assist you - post your compiler error messages to this forum or email them to me privately.
> > 
> > Good luck,
> > K.O.