24 Jun 2021, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Fix, changes in history plots
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I am updating the history plots. Main changes:
- the old history display code should again be easily usable (use the "open in old history display" checkbox)
- the history plot editor has an "edit in ODB" button that takes as to the plot definition in ODB (sometimes it is
easier to editing things in the ODB editor)
- error in history plot editor that created "formula" entry of incorrect size should be fixed
- "reorder" (and "delete entry") functions in the history plot editor should work again (plus added explanation text)
- "factor" and "offset" restored in the history plot editor
- added the long desired "voffset" to simplify plot scaling and positioning
- (factor, offset and voffset do not yet work in the new history plots, TBI ASAP)
- history plot editor and generate_hist_graph() now use the same code to read plot definitions from ODB. There should
be no more confusion about content of history plot entries in ODB and what each entry is supposed to do.
These changes have been precipitated by our inability to plot high voltage voltage and current on the same plot,
see bug https://bitbucket.org/tmidas/midas/issues/308/history-plot-formula-cannot-be-used-to
Voltage is in the range 0..1000 (volts) and current is in the range 0..50 and 0..0.100, autoscaling on voltage
makes the currents invisible at the zero line. In the past, we used the "factor" setting to scale
the graphs so we can see both voltage and currents at the same time (currents scaled up by factor 25 and 600,
as example).
The new "formula" feature was supposed to replace (and improve upon) the "factor" and "offset". But if I use
the formula "x*25", suddenly the plot is telling us that current values are not 50 uA, but 1250 uA (50*25),
and this is just wrong. We do not want to scale the micro-amps, we want to better position the plot on the graph,
like the old "factor" and "offset" allowed us to do.
So the idea is to use this computation:
y_position_on_plot = offset + factor*(formula(history_value) - voffset)
- "formula" is to transform history values into physical values (i.e. pressure meter reports bars, but we want atm, or
voltmeter is reading in discrete units of 0.125V, we want to see volts)
- "factor" and "offset" is to position the graphs on the plot for best visual presentation of data
- I also added is the much desired "voffset", you only know it is needed if you have a non-zero "offset" and you need
to change the "factor", surprise, "offset" has ot be changed, too, and good luck recalculating it correctly in one
try.
The way to use this stuff:
- adjust "voffset" to bring the graph to around y=0
- increase the "factor" to zoom-in on features and stuff
- adjust "offset" to move the graph up and down relative to all the other graphs on the plot
- now one can zoom in and out as needed by changing the "factor" and the plot will stay roughly in the right place
without having to readjust the offsets.
K.O. |
24 Jun 2021, Konstantin Olchanski, Suggestion, MidasConfig.cmake usage
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> > So you say "nuke ${MIDAS_LIBRARIES}" and "fix ${MIDAS_INCLUDE}". Ok.
> A more moderate option ...
For the record, I did not disappear. I have a very short time window
to complete commissioning the alpha-g daq (now that the network
and the event builder are cooperating). To add to the fun, our high voltage
power supply turned into a pumpkin, so plotting voltages and currents
on the same history plot at the same time (like we used to be able to do)
went up in priority.
K.O. |
25 Jun 2021, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Fix, changes in history plots
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> A general warning: With the recent history changes implemented in the develop branch, starting from a fresh ODB and editing
> any history panel, on gets tons of errors and debug output from mhttpd: ...
This is the reason most projects have separate development and production branches.
I recommend everybody to use the released tagged versions of midas for production.
> I strongly recommend to make such modifications on a separate branch not to
> break running experiments.
Is there something that does not work anymore? Did I break something? The debug messages I am still
tuning.
K.O.
>
> MVOdb: Error: MIDAS db_get_value() at ODB path "/History/Display/Default/Trigger rate/Minimum" returned status 312
> MVOdb: Error: MIDAS db_get_value() at ODB path "/History/Display/Default/Trigger rate/Minimum" returned status 312
> MVOdb: Error: MIDAS db_get_value() at ODB path "/History/Display/Default/Trigger rate/Maximum" returned status 312
> MVOdb: Error: MIDAS db_get_value() at ODB path "/History/Display/Default/Trigger rate/Maximum" returned status 312
> MVOdb: Error: MIDAS db_get_value() at ODB path "/History/Display/Default/Trigger rate/Zero ylow" returned status 312
> MVOdb: Error: MIDAS db_get_value() at ODB path "/History/Display/Default/Trigger rate/Log axis" returned status 312
> MVOdb: Error: MIDAS db_get_value() at ODB path "/History/Display/Default/Trigger rate/Zero ylow" returned status 312
> Load from ODB History/Display/Default/Trigger rate: hist plot: 2 variables
> timescale: 1h, minimum: 0.000000, maximum: 0.000000, zero_ylow: 0, log_axis: 0, show_run_markers: 1, show_values: 1,
> show_fill: 1
> var[0] event [System][Trigger per sec.] formula [], colour [#00AAFF] label [] factor 1.000000 offset 0.000000 voffset
> 0.000000 order 10
> var[1] event [System][Trigger kB per sec.] formula [], colour [#FF9000] label [] factor 1.000000 offset 0.000000 voffset
> 0.000000 order 20
>
>
>
> This has to be fixed by the original author. I strongly recommend to make such modifications on a separate branch not to
> break running experiments.
>
> Stefan |
25 Jun 2021, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Fix, changes in history plots
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> I disagree ...
I am happy with disagreement and differences of opinions. Zest of life, driver of progress and improvements, etc.
I am even more happy with solutions to problems. The current problem is that the offset and factor feature
of history plots has been removed without much discussion.
I stress, we have been using this feature to run experiments for the last 20 years.
I do not understand objections to it being restored. If you do not want to use it, do not use it.
K.O.
> with the proposed change to scale the HV current for a "nice" display. If values are scaled, the axis should be
> scaled in the same way. Otherwise people might read the current from the plot, look at the axis, and again get the wrong
> value (the factor of 25x you mention). Sure you can hover with the cursor over the graph, and see the right value, but think
> of taking a screen shot, putting this into a publication, and get complaints from the reviewer.
>
> The only "correct" way in my opinion is to implement two vertical axis, as can be seen in some papers. One for the HV, and a
> new TBD right axis for the current values, then indicating for each graph if the left or right vertical axis applies. For
> the secondary axis we can have autoscaling or fixed scaling, as we have for the primary axis.
>
> Stefan |
25 Jun 2021, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Fix, changes in history plots
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> > The only "correct" way in my opinion is to implement two vertical axis, as can be seen in some papers. One for the HV, and a
> > new TBD right axis for the current values, then indicating for each graph if the left or right vertical axis applies. For
> > the secondary axis we can have autoscaling or fixed scaling, as we have for the primary axis.
In the past, we have done some useful plots with maybe 10 variables plotted
at the same time with different scaling and positioning on the graph.
Having 2 vertical axis is maybe useful for the specific case of plotting high voltages,
but not in the general case.
Actually, just 2 vertical axis will not work to plot high voltages in ALPHA-g, because
we have anode currents on the scale 0..0.1 uA and cathode currents on the scale 50..60 uA.
K.O. |
25 Jun 2021, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Fix, changes in history plots
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I will have to post an example of a scaled plot. I figure everybody forgot how they look like.
K.O.
> We are using the new history formula as a quick way to convert signals from sensors to actual physical values (for example Voltage->Temperature, Voltage->relative humidity
> ...), so it is great that the shown voltage is the calculated one.
>
> I would like to add a point to this discussion.
> In our collaboration people attach images of history plots to elogs, meeting presentation and/or physical logbooks.
> The proposed scaling formula may work fine online using the cursors, but, once an image is created, I do not understand how it is possible to extract the value for a scaled
> variables.
> Suppose you see a graph in a presentation with a current increase by some PSU and the current was scaled to be in the same plot of the voltage.
> Looking at the delta in the image, how can you judge the current increase without any axis/grid to refer to?
>
> So I support Stefan proposal for a secondary axis, as long as it is clear which value belong to which axis.
> Maybe marking the channels in the description or using different line styles/thickness?
>
> Best,
> Marco |
28 Jun 2021, Konstantin Olchanski, Suggestion, ODB Load in Sequencer
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> Hi all,
> for my experiment we ended up with the need of changing lot of parameters (~9000 values) in the ODB at once by the sequencer.
> The very first solution was to use a sequencer function with a ton of ODBSET calls, however a more elegant solution may be to provide an "ODBLoad" command which mimics the "load" command of odbedit.
> I already have a working modification to the sequencer for this, if you agree I will commit it to a dedicated brach.
> Let me know if you think this is a good approach.
>
Sounds like a good idea. I trust you are using the data in json format? Perhaps the command
should be named "ODBLoadJSON" to be clear about this.
(JSON is preferred over .odb and .xml for many reasons (ask me))
K.O. |
28 Jun 2021, Konstantin Olchanski, Suggestion, ODB Load in Sequencer
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> > > Hi all,
> > > for my experiment we ended up with the need of changing lot of parameters (~9000 values) in the ODB at once by the sequencer.
> > > The very first solution was to use a sequencer function with a ton of ODBSET calls, however a more elegant solution may be to provide an "ODBLoad" command which mimics the "load" command of odbedit.
> > > I already have a working modification to the sequencer for this, if you agree I will commit it to a dedicated brach.
> > > Let me know if you think this is a good approach.
> > >
> >
> > Sounds like a good idea. I trust you are using the data in json format? Perhaps the command
> > should be named "ODBLoadJSON" to be clear about this.
> >
> > (JSON is preferred over .odb and .xml for many reasons (ask me))
>
> What if some experiment keep some files in .xml format (ask me!). The routine should check for the extension and support all three formats.
>
Yes, hard to tell without seeing his full proposal, including the code. If it is load from file,
sure we look at the file extension, I think the existing code already would do this and support all 3 formats.
But if he wants to load ODB data from a text literal or from a string,
we might as well stick to json. I guess we could support the other formats, but I do not see anybody
using anything other than json for new code like this.
ODBPasteJSON("/foo/bar/baz", '{"var1":1, "var2":"somestr"}');
K.O. |
28 Jun 2021, Konstantin Olchanski, Suggestion, ODB Load in Sequencer
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> ... at MEG, we keep hundreds of XML files for configuration. Mostly historical, but that's how it is.
same here, lots of historical .odb and .xml files.
I think the .odb and .xml support is here to stay. Best I remember, latest things I fixed in both
was support for unlimited string length (and removal of associated buffer overflows). Right now,
I am not sure if both are UTF-8 clean and if they properly escape all control characters,
something to fix as we go or as we bump into problems.
K.O. |
30 Jun 2021, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Fix, changes in history plots
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> I am updating the history plots.
> So the idea is to use this computation:
> y_position_on_plot = offset + factor*(formula(history_value) - voffset)
Stefan and myself did some brain storming on zoom. Writing it down the way I remember it.
- we distilled the gist of the problem - the numerical values we show in the plot labels and in hover-over-the-graph
are before formula is applied or after the formula is applied?
- I suggested a universal solution using a double formula: use formula1 for one case;
use formula2 for the other case;
use formula1 for "physics calibration", use formula2 for factor and offset for composite plots:
numeric_value = formula1(history_value)
plotted_value = formula2(numeric_value)
- we agree that this is way too complicated, difficult to explain and difficult to coherently present in the history editor
- Stefan suggested a simple solution, a checkbox labeled "show raw value" next to each history variable. by default, the
value after the formula is plotted and displayed. if checked, the raw value (before the formula) is displayed, and the
value after the formula is plotted. (so this works the same as the factor and offset on the old history plots).
- if "show raw value" is enabled, the numerical values shown will be inconsistent against the labels on the vertical axis.
Our solution it to turn the axis labels off. (for composite plots, like oscillator frequency in Hz vs oscillator
temperature in degC, both scaled to see their correlation, the vertical axis is unit-less "arbitrary units", of course)
- to simplify migration of old history plots that use custom factor and offset settings, we think in the direction of
automatically moving them to the "formula". (factor=2, offset=10 automatically populates formula with "2*x+10", "show raw
value" checked/enabled). Thus we can avoid implementing factor and offset in the new history code (an unwelcome
complication).
- I think this covers all the use cases I have seen in the past, so we will move in this direction.
K.O. |
09 Jul 2021, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Report, cmake question
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cmake check and mate in 1 move. please help.
the midas cmake file has a typo in the ROOT_CXX_FLAGS, I fixed it and now I am dead in the
water, need help from cmake experts and pushers.
On Ubuntu:
ROOT_CXX_FLAGS has -std=c++14
midas cmake defines -std=gnu++11 (never mind that I asked for c++11, not "c++11 with GNU
extensions")
the two compiler flags collide and the build explodes, the best I can tell c++11 prevails
and ROOT header files blow up because they expect c++14.
if I remove the midas cmake request for c++11, -std=gnu++11 is gone, there is no conflict
with ROOT C++14 request and the build works just fine.
but now it explodes on CentOS-7 because by default, c++11 is not enabled. (include <mutex>
blows up).
what a mess.
K.O. |
09 Jul 2021, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, cannot push to bitbucket
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the day has arrived when I cannot git push to bitbucket. cloud computing rules!
I have never seen this error before and I do not think we have any hooks installed,
so it must be some bitbucket stuff. their status page says some kind of maintenance
is happening, but the promised error message is "repository is read only" or something
similar.
I hope this clears out automatically. I am updating all the cmake crud and I have no idea
which changes I already pushed and which I did not, so no idea if anything will work for
people who pull from midas until this problem is cleared out.
daq00:mvodb$ git push
X11 forwarding request failed on channel 0
Enumerating objects: 3, done.
Counting objects: 100% (3/3), done.
Delta compression using up to 12 threads
Compressing objects: 100% (2/2), done.
Writing objects: 100% (2/2), 247 bytes | 247.00 KiB/s, done.
Total 2 (delta 1), reused 0 (delta 0)
remote: null value in column "attempts" violates not-null constraint
remote: DETAIL: Failing row contains (13586899, 2021-07-10 01:13:28.812076+00, 1970-01-01
00:00:00+00, 1970-01-01 00:00:00+00, 65975727, null).
To bitbucket.org:tmidas/mvodb.git
! [remote rejected] master -> master (pre-receive hook declined)
error: failed to push some refs to 'git@bitbucket.org:tmidas/mvodb.git'
daq00:mvodb$
K.O. |
11 Jul 2021, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, midas cmake update
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I reworked the midas cmake files:
- install via CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX should work correctly now:
- installed are bin, lib and include - everything needed to build against the midas library
- if built without CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX, a special mode "MIDAS_NO_INSTALL_INCLUDE_FILES" is activated, and the include path
contains all the subdirectories need for compilation
- -I$MIDASSYS/include and -L$MIDASSYS/lib -lmidas work in both cases
- to "use" midas, I recommend: include($ENV{MIDASSYS}/lib/midas-targets.cmake)
- config files generated for find_package(midas) now have correct information (a manually constructed subset of information
automatically exported by cmake's install(export))
- people who want to use "find_package(midas)" will have to contribute documentation on how to use it (explain the magic used to
find the "right midas" in /usr/local/midas or in /midas or in ~/packages/midas or in ~/pacjages/new-midas) and contribute an
example superproject that shows how to use it and that can be run from the bitpucket automatic build. (features that are not part
of the automatic build we cannot insure against breakage).
On my side, here is an example of using include($ENV{MIDASSYS}/lib/midas-targets.cmake). I posted this before, it is used in
midas/examples/experiment and I will ask ben to include it into the midas wiki documentation.
Below is the complete cmake file for building the alpha-g event bnuilder and main control frontend. When presented like this, I
have to agree that cmake does provide positive value to the user. (the jury is still out whether it balances out against the
negative value in the extra work to "just support find_package(midas) already!").
#
# CMakeLists.txt for alpha-g frontends
#
cmake_minimum_required(VERSION 3.12)
project(agdaq_frontends)
include($ENV{MIDASSYS}/lib/midas-targets.cmake)
add_compile_options("-O2")
add_compile_options("-g")
#add_compile_options("-std=c++11")
add_compile_options(-Wall -Wformat=2 -Wno-format-nonliteral -Wno-strict-aliasing -Wuninitialized -Wno-unused-function)
add_compile_options("-DTMFE_REV0")
add_compile_options("-DOS_LINUX")
add_executable(feevb feevb.cxx TsSync.cxx)
target_link_libraries(feevb midas)
add_executable(fectrl fectrl.cxx GrifComm.cxx EsperComm.cxx JsonTo.cxx KOtcp.cxx $ENV{MIDASSYS}/src/tmfe_rev0.cxx)
target_link_libraries(fectrl midas)
#end |
11 Jul 2021, Konstantin Olchanski, Suggestion, MidasConfig.cmake usage
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> > > So you say "nuke ${MIDAS_LIBRARIES}" and "fix ${MIDAS_INCLUDE}". Ok.
> > A more moderate option ...
>
> For the record, I did not disappear. I have a very short time window
> to complete commissioning the alpha-g daq (now that the network
> and the event builder are cooperating). To add to the fun, our high voltage
> power supply turned into a pumpkin, so plotting voltages and currents
> on the same history plot at the same time (like we used to be able to do)
> went up in priority.
>
in the latest update, find_package(midas) should work correctly, the include path is right,
the library list is right.
please test.
I find that the cmake install(export) method is simpler on the user side (just one line of
code) and is easier to support on the midas side (config file is auto-generated).
I request that proponents of the find_package(midas) method contribute the documentation and
example on how to use it. (see my other message).
K.O. |
11 Jul 2021, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Report, cmake with CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX fails
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big thanks to Andreas S. for getting most of this figured out. I now understand
much better how cmake installs things and how it generates config files, both
find_package(midas) style and install(export) style.
with the latest updates, CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX should work correctly. I now understand how it works,
how to use it and how to test it, it should not break again.
for posterity, my commends to Andreas's pull request:
thank you for providing this code, it was very helpful. at the end I implemented things slightly differently. It took me a while to understand that I have to provide 2 “install” modes, for your case, I need to
“install” the header files and everything works “the cmake way”, for our normal case, we use include files in-place and have to include all the git submodules to the include path. I am quite happy with the
result. K.O.
K.O. |
13 Jul 2021, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, MidasConfig.cmake usage
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> $MIDASSYS/drivers/class/
> $MIDASSYS/drivers/device
> $MIDASSYS/mscb/src/
> $MIDASSYS/src/mfe.cxx
>
> I guess this can be easily added by defining a MIDAS_SOURCES in MidasConfig.cmake, so
> that I can do things like:
>
> add_executable(my_fe
> myfe.cxx
> $(MIDAS_SOURCES}/src/mfe.cxx
> ${MIDAS_SOURCES}/drivers/class/hv.cxx
> ...)
1) remove $(MIDAS_SOURCES}/src/mfe.cxx from "add_executable", add "mfe" to
target_link_libraries() as in examples/experiment/frontend:
add_executable(frontend frontend.cxx)
target_link_libraries(frontend mfe midas)
2) ${MIDAS_SOURCES}/drivers/class/hv.cxx surely is ${MIDASSYS}/drivers/...
If MIDAS is built with non-default CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX, "drivers" and co are not
available, as we do not "install" them. Where MIDASSYS should point in this case is
anybody's guess. To run MIDAS, $MIDASSYS/resources is needed, but we do not install
them either, so they are not available under CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX and setting
MIDASSYS to same place as CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX would not work.
I still think this whole business of installing into non-default CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX
location has not been thought through well enough. Too much thinking about how cmake works
and not enough thinking about how MIDAS works and how MIDAS is used. Good example
of "my tool is a hammer, everything else must have the shape of a nail".
K.O. |
13 Jul 2021, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Report, cmake question
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> cmake check and mate in 1 move. please help.
> -std=c++11 and -std=c++14 collision...
I have a solution implemented for this, I am not happy with it, Stefan is not happy with it. See
discussion: https://bitbucket.org/tmidas/midas/commits/50a15aa70a4fe3927764605e8964b55a3bb1732b
K.O. |
14 Jul 2021, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Report, cmake question
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> > cmake check and mate in 1 move. please help.
> > -std=c++11 and -std=c++14 collision...
>
> I have a solution implemented for this, I am not happy with it, Stefan is not happy with it. See
> discussion: https://bitbucket.org/tmidas/midas/commits/50a15aa70a4fe3927764605e8964b55a3bb1732b
>
I figured it out, solution is to use:
target_compile_features(midas PUBLIC cxx_std_11)
this is how it works:
- centos-7 (g++ has c++11 off by default): -std=gnu++11 is added automatically (not -std=c++11, but
probably correct, as some c++11 functions were available as gnu extensions)
- ubuntu-20.04 LTS without ROOT: nothing added (I guess correct, g++ has c++11 is enabled by default)
- ubuntu-20.04 LTS with -std=c++14 from ROOT: nothing added, c++14 as requested by ROOT is in affect.
- macos without ROOT: -std=gnu++11 is added automatically
- macos with -std=c++11 from ROOT: ditto, so both -std=c++11 and -std=gnu++11 are present in this order,
wrong-ish, but works.
and good luck figuring this out just from cmake documentation:
https://cmake.org/cmake/help/latest/command/target_compile_features.html
K.O. |
14 Jul 2021, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Fix, changes in history plots
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Moving in the direction of this proposal. History plot editor is updated according to it. Remaining missing piece is the "show
raw value" buttons and code behind them.
Changes:
- "show factor and offset" moved to the top of the page, "off" by default
- factor and offset (if not zero) are automatically migrated to the formula field (if it is empty), one needs to save the panel
for this to take effect.
K.O.
> > I am updating the history plots.
> > So the idea is to use this computation:
> > y_position_on_plot = offset + factor*(formula(history_value) - voffset)
>
> Stefan and myself did some brain storming on zoom. Writing it down the way I remember it.
>
> - we distilled the gist of the problem - the numerical values we show in the plot labels and in hover-over-the-graph
> are before formula is applied or after the formula is applied?
>
> - I suggested a universal solution using a double formula: use formula1 for one case;
> use formula2 for the other case;
> use formula1 for "physics calibration", use formula2 for factor and offset for composite plots:
> numeric_value = formula1(history_value)
> plotted_value = formula2(numeric_value)
>
> - we agree that this is way too complicated, difficult to explain and difficult to coherently present in the history editor
>
> - Stefan suggested a simple solution, a checkbox labeled "show raw value" next to each history variable. by default, the
> value after the formula is plotted and displayed. if checked, the raw value (before the formula) is displayed, and the
> value after the formula is plotted. (so this works the same as the factor and offset on the old history plots).
>
> - if "show raw value" is enabled, the numerical values shown will be inconsistent against the labels on the vertical axis.
> Our solution it to turn the axis labels off. (for composite plots, like oscillator frequency in Hz vs oscillator
> temperature in degC, both scaled to see their correlation, the vertical axis is unit-less "arbitrary units", of course)
>
> - to simplify migration of old history plots that use custom factor and offset settings, we think in the direction of
> automatically moving them to the "formula". (factor=2, offset=10 automatically populates formula with "2*x+10", "show raw
> value" checked/enabled). Thus we can avoid implementing factor and offset in the new history code (an unwelcome
> complication).
>
> - I think this covers all the use cases I have seen in the past, so we will move in this direction.
>
> K.O. |
14 Jul 2021, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Fix, changes in history plots
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> Moving in the direction of this proposal. Remaining missing piece is the "show
> raw value" buttons and code behind them.
added "show raw value" button, updated on-page instructions.
I think this is the final layout of the history panel editor, conversion
to html+javascript will be done "as is". If you have suggestions to improve
the layout (add/remove/move things around, etc), please shoult out (on the elog
here or by direct email to me).
I am thinking in the direction of changing the control flow of the history editor:
- midas "history" manu button click redirects to
- current history panel selection (with checkbox to open old history plots), click on "new plot" button redirects to
- new page for creating new plots. this will present a list of all history variables, click on variable name creates a new history
panel containing just this one variable and redirects to it.
In other words, to see the history for any history variable:
- click on "history" menu button
- click on "new"
- click on desired history variable
- see this history plot
From here, click on the "wheel" button to open the existing history panel editor and add any additional variables, change settings,
etc.
In the history panel editor, I am thinking in the direction of replacing the existing drop-down selection of history variables (now
very workable for large experiments) with an overlay dialog to show all history variables, with checkboxes to select them, basically
the same history variable select page as described above. Not sure yet how this will work visually.
K.O. |
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