We're using mhttpd for calls that end up working better with asynchronous requests, and we've built up sort of a parallel, asynchronous library using javascript Promises.

The Promises (which are in the ES6 spec) have worked incredibly well for building well-behaved, sequential calls to mhttpd.  Personally, I also find their syntax much easier to wrap my
head around, especially compared to callbacks.

I'd be happy to add these functions to midas.js if there's general interest. 

> If using a synchronous AJAX call, such as "foo=ODBGet("/runinfo/state");", google chrome will prints this to the javascript console:
> 
> "Synchronous XMLHttpRequest on the main thread is deprecated because of its detrimental effects to the end user's experience. For more help, check http://xhr.spec.whatwg.org/."
> 
> The referenced URL has this text:
> 
> "Synchronous XMLHttpRequest outside of workers is in the process of being removed from the web platform as it has detrimental effects to the end user's experience. (This is a long 
> process that takes many years.) Developers must not pass false for the async argument when the JavaScript global environment is a document environment. User agents are strongly 
> encouraged to warn about such usage in developer tools and may experiment with throwing an InvalidAccessError exception when it occurs."
> 
> Then jQuery say this: http://api.jquery.com/jquery.ajax/
> 
> "As of jQuery 1.8, the use of async: false with jqXHR ($.Deferred) is deprecated; you must use the success/error/complete callback options instead of the corresponding methods of the 
> jqXHR object such as jqXHR.done() or the deprecated jqXHR.success()."
> 
> This sounds rather severe but one must flow with the flow. Synchronous RPC is out, async is in.
> 
> Many of the old MIDAS AJAX functions are fully synchronous (i.e. "foo=ODBGet("/blah");"), some more recent ones support both sync and async use (i.e. ODBMCopy()).
> 
> All the newly added functions *must* by async-only. For example, all the new JSON-RPC functions are async-only and require the use of callbacks to get at the data.
> 
> Converting existing javascript custom pages from sync AJAX (hah! it's SJAX, not AJAX) will require some work, and one might as well start today.
> 
> Personally, I think this excessive use of callbacks for all javascript web page programming is an unnecessary PITA, but I also do understand the motivation
> of people who write web browsers and javascript engines - removal of support for synchronous RPC makes many things much simpler -
> and even small speedup of javascript execution and better browser efficiency is welcome improvements (but not free improvements - as old web pages need to be converted).
> 
> K.O.

When using the sequencer to start and stop runs which use a deferred transition,
the sequencer fails with a "Cannot stop run: ..." error.

Checking for the "CM_DEFERRED_TRANSITION" case in the first-pass block of the
'Stop' code in sequencer.cxx is one way to solve the problem - though there may
well be better solutions. 

My edited portion of sequencer.cxx is below.  Is this an acceptable solution
that could be introduced to the master branch?

} else if (equal_ustring(mxml_get_value(pn), "Stop")) {
    if (!seq.transition_request) {
       seq.transition_request = TRUE;
       size = sizeof(state);
       db_get_value(hDB, 0, "/Runinfo/State", &state, &size, TID_INT, FALSE);
       if (state != STATE_STOPPED) {
          status = cm_transition(TR_STOP, 0, str, sizeof(str), TR_MTHREAD |
TR_SYNC, TRUE);
          if (status == CM_DEFERRED_TRANSITION) {
             // do nothing
          } else if (status != CM_SUCCESS) {
             sprintf(str, "Cannot stop run: %s", str);
             seq_error(str);
          }
       }
    } else {
       // Wait until transition has finished
       size = sizeof(state);
       db_get_value(hDB, 0, "/Runinfo/State", &state, &size, TID_INT, FALSE);
       if (state == STATE_STOPPED) {
          seq.transition_request = FALSE;

          if (seq.stop_after_run) {
             seq.stop_after_run = FALSE;
             seq.running = FALSE;
             seq.finished = TRUE;
             cm_msg(MTALK, "sequencer", "Sequencer is finished.");
          } else
             seq.current_line_number++;

          db_set_record(hDB, hKeySeq, &seq, sizeof(seq), 0);
       } else {
         // do nothing
       }
    }
}

> Why don't you post the functions here so that we can have a look? 

Here is (1) my promisified HTTP request function and (2) a function that uses the returned promises to build an asynchronous, sequential chain of requests to Midas.

Note that if something seems ugly, it's likely because I didn't take the time to clean it up, and not because it particularly *needs* to be ugly.

###### promisified HTTP request ######
In addition to promisifying HTTP requests to Midas, I wanted the Promise.resolve from this function to always return valid JSON.  I also wanted the promise to reject if the response from mhttpd indicated
failure - so that we wouldn't have to rewrite this error checking throughout the code.  The function is so long becuase we make many different calls to mhttpd, and most of them need custom error checking
and, if successful, response packaging.

// begin cdms.daq.utilities.get()
cdms.daq.utilities.get = function(url) {
  return new Promise(function(resolve, reject) {
    // XHR request
    var req = new XMLHttpRequest();
    req.open('GET',url);
 
    req.onload = function() {
      //console.log('done with ', url);
      if(req.status == 200 || req.status == 302) {
        // 'http://dcrc01.triumf.ca:8081/?cmd=jcopy&odb=CustomScript/nonexistent&encoding=json'
        // 'http://dcrc01.triumf.ca:8081/?cmd=jkey&odb=CustomScript/nonexistent'
        // both return <DB_NO_KEY>
        if(/DB_NO_KEY/gi.test(req.response)) {
          reject(req.response);
      
        // 'http://dcrc01.triumf.ca:8081/?cmd=jkey&odb=CustomScript/nonexistent&encoding=json' 
        // returns {"/error": 312}
        } else if(/error.+:\s*\d+/.test(req.response)) {
          reject('<DB_NO_KEY>');
 
        // attempting to start (or stop) a run when a run is already started (or stopped) with
        // 'http://dcrc01.triumf.ca:8081/?cmd=stop' 
        // returns ...<title>MIDAS error</title></head><body><H1>Run is not running</H1>...
        } else if(/MIDAS error/i.test(req.response)) {
          var error_str = /<H1>(.*)<\/H1>/i.exec(req.response);
          reject(error_str[0]);
 
        // 'http://dcrc01.triumf.ca:8081/?cmd=jcreate&odb=/test/foo2&type=7&encoding=json'
        // returns either 1 (creation successful) or 311 (already exists)
        } else if(/jcreate/i.test(url) && (req.response=='1' || req.response=='311')) {
          resolve({'success': true});
 
        // 'http://dcrc01.triumf.ca:8081/?cmd=jset&odb=/test/foo2&val=9&encoding=json'
        // returns OK
        } else if(/jset/i.test(url) && (req.response=='OK')) {
          resolve({'success': true});
 
        // http://dcrc01.triumf.ca:8081/SEQ/?cmd=Load+Script
        // returns an html page showing all available sequencer files
        } else if(/SEQ.*cmd=Load.+Script/i.test(url)) {
          console.log('match Seq load script command url');
          fileList = req.response.match(/\w+.msl/gi);
          resolve({'success': true, 'files': fileList});
 
        // http://dcrc01.triumf.ca:8081/SEQ/?cmd=jmsg&n=10
        // returns 10 most recent messages
        } else if(/.*cmd=jmsg/i.test(url)) {
          console.log('match command url to get messages from mlogger');
          //console.log(req.response);
          resolve({'success': true, 'messages': req.response});
 
        // http://dcrc01.triumf.ca:8081/SEQ/?fs=testflash.msl&dir=&cmd=Load
        // returns <html>redir</html>
        } else if(/SEQ.+fs=\w+.msl&.*cmd=Load/i.test(url)) {
          resolve({'success': true});
 
        // http://dcrc01.triumf.ca:8081/SEQ/?cmd=Start+Script&params=1
        // returns a status of 302 but no response
        } else if(/SEQ.+\?cmd=Start.+Script/i.test(url)) {
          resolve({'success': true});
 
        // http://dcrc01.triumf.ca:8081/?customscript=XYZ&redir=.
        // returns a status of 302 but no response
        // although the redir causes a network call to
        // (in this case) the Midas home page,
        // and that seems to be the req.response
        } else if(/redir/i.test(url)) {
          resolve({'success': true});
 
        // all other responses should be valid JSON
        } else {
          try {
            var json_obj = JSON.parse(req.response);
 
            if(json_obj && typeof json_obj === "object" && json_obj !== null){
              resolve(json_obj);
            }
          } catch(err) {
            console.log('url is ',url);
            console.log('response is ',req.response);
 
            alert(err);
            reject(err);
          }
      }
    } 
    };
     
    req.onerror = function() {
      reject(Error("Network Error"));
    };
 
    req.send();
    //console.log('request to ', url);
  });
}; // end cdms.daq.utilities.get()


###### using promisified HTTP request ######
This is an excerpt that attempts to 
(1) run a script on the DAQ computer, producing a sequencer file
(2) check that the script is completed
(3) load the sequencer file
(4) run the sequencer

Failures on any step jump to the catch, which prints the error on screen.

These are HTTP calls, and given my buggy network should be asynchronous.  At the same time, each of these steps should happen only after its predecessor is completed.  To force sequential execution,
functions within a .then() clause return a Promise object. 

// set the argument string for {{scriptname}}
// then run {{scriptname}}
// check the message log until the success of the script is verified
// check that the sequencer sees the expected file (not implemented!)
// then load the resulting sequencer file
// then start the sequencer
cdms.daq.utilities.get(url).then(function() {
  // call customscript
  var cmd_str = '?customscript=' + scriptName_str + '&redir=.';
  return cdms.daq.utilities.get(baseURL_str + cmd_str);
}).then(function() {
  return checkScriptLoop(uid);
}).then(function() {
  var load_str = baseURL_str + '/SEQ/?cmd=Load+Script';
  console.log('execute promise for url ', load_str);
  return cdms.daq.utilities.get(load_str);
}).then(function() {
  var load_str = '/SEQ/?fs=' + seqFile_str + '&dir=&cmd=Load';
  console.log('execute promise for url ', load_str);
  return cdms.daq.utilities.get(baseURL_str + load_str);
}).then(function() {
  var startSeq_str = '/SEQ/?cmd=Start+Script&params=1';
  console.log('execute promise for url ', startSeq_str);
  return cdms.daq.utilities.get(baseURL_str + startSeq_str);
}).catch(function(error) {
  alert(error);
}).then(function() {
  window.frames['flash-frame'].location = baseURL_str + '/SEQ/';
});

> I checked again on browser compatibility:
> 
> el6: firefox 38 - ok, google-chrome 27 - no
> el7: firefox 38 - ok, google-chrome 46 - ok
> ubuntu: firefox 42 - ok
> 
> mac os, windows - we say "latest firefox or google-chrome is required", then - ok
> 
> So we are probably okey with using javascript Promises with MIDAS...

It looks like this does mean that people using RHEL6 won't have the option of chrome - can they update chrome?

One option is to include a polyfill library like Lie (https://github.com/calvinmetcalf/lie).

> Right now the JSON-RPC client library does not check the return status of MIDAS calls themselves, i.e. ODBGet("/nonexistant") will go to Promise.resolve() with
> the MIDAS db_find_key() status DB_NO_KEY instead of Promise.reject(). So some error handling in Promise.resolve() is still required.

> I am thinking how to make these calls go to the error handler automatically, but there is no obvious solution for ODBMGet(["/runinfo", "/nonexistant"]) - the first path
> is a success, the second is a failure, do I fail the entire transaction (i.e. with a JSON-RPC error)? Same for JSON-RPC batch transactions - if one transaction
> in the batch fails, do I Promise.reject() all of them?


Generally, I'd prefer a grouped-request like ODBMGet to return an array of
Promises.  This way, I get to decide how to handle the request responses.  While
I do have cases where I use Promise.all(...), most of my current code would want
to treat each response individually.

But as you point out, my approach differs from the Midas approach significantly.
While I've set up my queries to reject on responses like DB_NO_KEY, the function
mjsonrpc_send_request in mhttpd.js tests purely for a successful http
request.

Since ODBMGet makes a *single* http call, I'd naively lean toward having it
return a single Promise.  Presumably, one that resolves if the http request
"goes through" and rejects if the http request fails. 

My perspective may not be the useful one to consider, though.  If other users
expect an array of promises returned from ODBMGet, definitely feel free to
ignore my thoughts on the matter.

If people really want ODBMGet to return an array of promises, one way to do it
would be to have a 'get' function that only cares about the success of the http
request, and a separate 'response checking' function that validates the
response.  ODBMGet can use these two functions together to return an array of
Promises:

#########
mhttpd.js
#########
function get(url) { 
  // return a promise that resolves if the http request returns status=200
  // reject if the http request does anything else
}

function checkResponse(response) {
  // return a promise that resolves for "good" responses
  // and rejects for "bad response"
}

function ODBMGet(path_arr) {
  var url = // build url from path_arr
  
  // syntax get().then(A).catch(B) means
  // if the http request goes through, A is executed
  // if the http request fails, B is executed
  // ;
  // for get, failure means no successful reply at all
  // so ODBMGet should return an array of rejected Promises 
  get(url).then(function(response) {
    response_arr = // split the response
    return response_arr.map(checkResponse)
  }).catch(function(err) {
    return path_arr.forEach(function() {
      return Promise.reject(err)
    })
  })
}

#########
user code
#########
// here the Promises are treated individually
var response_arr = ODBMGet([path1, path2, path3])

response_arr.forEach(function(thisResponse) {
  thisResponse.then( /* do something */ )
              .catch( /* do something else */ )
})

// and here the failure of a single promise in the array
// determines the code that's executed next
var required_arr = ODBMGet([pathA, pathB, pathC])

Promise.all(required_arr).then( /* do something */ )
                         .catch( /* do something else */ )

Both the /Script and /CustomScript trees in the ODB allow users to trigger a 
script via Midas - which silently truncates command strings longer than 
256 characters.

I'd prefer that Midas place no limit on string length.  Failing that, it would be
helpful to have character limits called out in the documentation 
(https://midas.triumf.ca/MidasWiki/index.php//Script_ODB_tree#.3Cscript-name.3E_key_or_subtree,
https://midas.triumf.ca/MidasWiki/index.php//Customscript_ODB_tree).

As far as I can tell, odb.c allows arbitrarily large strings in the ODB data.  
(Although key *names* are restricted to 256 characters.)  I've submitted one 
possible version of an arbitrary-length exec_script() as a pull request 
(https://bitbucket.org/tmidas/midas/pull-requests/).

Am I misunderstanding any critical pieces?  Does Midas intentionally treat 
strings in the ODB as limited to 256 characters?

Using low-level memory allocation routines in higher-level programs like mhttpd makes me nervous.

We could use vector arrays to allow variable-sized allocation, and use the data() member function to access the char* needed for functions like strlcat,
db_get_data, and db_sprintf.

This conforms to the c++ standard, but doesn't require explicit freeing by the user - at least, not when you're allocating std::vector<char>.

Amy

> Thank you for reporting this problem:
> 
> a) ODB key *names* are restricted to 31 characters (32 bytes, last byte is a NUL), not 256 characters.
> b) ODB string length is unlimited (32-bit length field)
> c) ODB C API "db_get_value" & co require fixed length buffer and most users of this API provide a 256-byte fixed buffer for strings, some of them also do not 
> check the status code, resulting in silent truncation. (I think the ODB functions themselves report truncation to midas.log, so not completely silent).
> 
> We try to fix this where we must - but it is cumbersome with the current ODB API - as in your fix on has to:
> - get the ODB key, extract size
> - allocate buffer
> - call db_get_value() & co
> - use the data
> - remember to free the buffer on each and every return path
> 
> The first three steps could become one if we had an ODB "get_data" function that automatically allocated the data buffer.
> 
> But the main source of bugs will be the last step - remember to free the buffer, always.
> 
> P.S.
> 
> We are not alone in pondering how to do this best. If you want to see it "done right",
> read the fresh-off-the-presses book "Go Programming Language" by Alan Donovan and Brian Kernighan,
> http://www.gopl.io/
> 
> Brian Kernighan is the "K" in K&R "C programming language", still around and kicking, now at Google.
> Sadly the "R" passed away in 2011 - http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/14/technology/dennis-ritchie-programming-trailblazer-dies-at-70.html
> 
> K.O.
> 
> > Both the /Script and /CustomScript trees in the ODB allow users to trigger a 
> > script via Midas - which silently truncates command strings longer than 
> > 256 characters.
> > 
> > I'd prefer that Midas place no limit on string length.  Failing that, it would be
> > helpful to have character limits called out in the documentation 
> > (https://midas.triumf.ca/MidasWiki/index.php//Script_ODB_tree#.3Cscript-name.3E_key_or_subtree,
> > https://midas.triumf.ca/MidasWiki/index.php//Customscript_ODB_tree).
> > 
> > As far as I can tell, odb.c allows arbitrarily large strings in the ODB data.  
> > (Although key *names* are restricted to 256 characters.)  I've submitted one 
> > possible version of an arbitrary-length exec_script() as a pull request 
> > (https://bitbucket.org/tmidas/midas/pull-requests/).
> > 
> > Am I misunderstanding any critical pieces?  Does Midas intentionally treat 
> > strings in the ODB as limited to 256 characters?

I've recently run into issues when using JSON.parse on ODB keys containing 
8-bit data.

For JSON.parse to successfully parse a string, (A) the string must be valid 
UTF-8, (B) several whitespace characters, control characters, and the 
characters " and \ must be escaped, and (C) you've got to follow the key-
value rules laid out in http://www.json.org/.

The web browser takes care of (A), and I verified that for this key Midas 
handled (C) correctly.  In principle, the function json_write in odb.c 
handles (B) - but json_write does not escape control characters.

To manage this problem, I modified json_write (in odb.c) to replace any 
control character with the more-inocuous character, 'C'.  My default case 
now looks like:

default:
         {
           // if a char is a control character,
           // print 'C' in its place
           // note that this loses data:
           // a more-correct method would be to print
           // \uXXXX, where XXXX is the character in hex
           if(iscntrl(*s)){
             (*buffer)[(*buffer_end)++] = 'C';
             s++;
           } else {
             (*buffer)[(*buffer_end)++] = *s++;
           }
         }
      
Where the call to iscntrl(*s) requires the addition of the ctype.h header 
file.

I'm guessing a blanket replacement of control characters with 'C' isn't 
something all Midas users would want to do.  Replacing the control character 
with its hex value seems like a good choice - but not without adding bounds 
checking!

An alternative to changing odb.c could be to add a regex to Midas response 
text which removes all control characters (U+0000 - U+001F): 

var resp_lint = req.response.replace(/[\u{0000}-\u{001F}]/gmu, '');
var json_obj = JSON.parse(resp_lint);

Unfortunately, the 'u' regex flax doesn't work on the Firefox version 
included in Scientific Linux 6.8.  

I recently needed to watch the Midas messages for a particular error - and 
thus needed a command to "get all the messages since a time t".

The documentation (https://midas.triumf.ca/MidasWiki/index.php/AJAX#jmsg) 
documents a way to "get the most recent n messages" - but when I dug into the 
code, I was delighted to find that the existing Midas code also supports the 
"get all messages since t" query.

For the "get all messages since t" query, the parameter t should be the unix 
timestamp in seconds, and the parameter n should be zero: curl -X GET 
"http://localhost:8081/?cmd=jmsg&n=0&t=1473437918".

Pretty useful!  Perhaps this should be added to the AJAX documentation?

I'd like to use the mjsonrpc db_get_values method, but (as indicated in the
documentation) it returns all ODB keys as lowercase.

This breaks quite a lot of my code - it was written with the old AJAX commands,
and these did respect the capitalization of the ODB keys.

Would it be possible to add a capitalization-preserve option to db_get_values? 

It appears I needed to read the documentation more closely - the method db_save
does respect key-name capitalization and solves my problem.

Is db_save considered a deprecated method?  If so, I'd reiterate my suggestion for
a capitalize-preserve option for db_get_values.

Otherwise, I'll plan on using db_save.

> I'd like to use the mjsonrpc db_get_values method, but (as indicated in the
> documentation) it returns all ODB keys as lowercase.
> 
> This breaks quite a lot of my code - it was written with the old AJAX commands,
> and these did respect the capitalization of the ODB keys.
> 
> Would it be possible to add a capitalization-preserve option to db_get_values? 

We're using the History Logger MIDAS feature and writing to mySQL tables, but 
in some cases have run into issues installing mySQL on centos7 systems.

Has anyone ever tried running this MIDAS feature with MariaDB rather than 
mySQL?

I'm using a python client to start and stop runs, and the following code *appears* 
to set the MIDAS state to "Run"

client.odb_set("/Runinfo/State", 3)

However, it doesn't seem to do other things associated with a run, like start 
accumulating events.

Is there a different way I should start the run from the python client?

Thanks!

I'm interested in using the matching feature for ODBSET explained on 
https://midas.triumf.ca/MidasWiki/index.php/Sequencer for settings that are in an 
array, like:

COMMENT "Ground the detectors"
ODBSET "/Detectors/Det*/Settings/Charge/Bias (V)[?]" 0

Currently I get an error when I try to run this script.  Is this expected?  Would it 
be possible to implement matching for array values?

Thanks!

The following all fail with "Cannot find ODB key "<key>""

ODBSET "/Detectors/Det*/Settings/Charge/Bias (V)[*]" 0
ODBSET "/Detectors/Det*/Settings/Charge/Bias (V)[0-9]" 0
ODBSET "/Detectors/Det*/Settings/Charge/Bias (V)[1]" 0
ODBSET "/Detectors/Det*/Settings/Charge/Bias (V)*" 0
ODBSET "/Detectors/Det*/Settings/Charge/Bias (V)" 0


> Hi,
> I guess the issue is in the "[?]" part of the command, the indexing is handled differently from the odb path and does not 
> support "?".
> Are you trying to set only the first 9 channels?
> Could you try with "[*]" or "[0-9]" instead?
> 
> Marco
> 
> > I'm interested in using the matching feature for ODBSET explained on 
> > https://midas.triumf.ca/MidasWiki/index.php/Sequencer for settings that are in an 
> > array, like:
> > 
> > COMMENT "Ground the detectors"
> > ODBSET "/Detectors/Det*/Settings/Charge/Bias (V)[?]" 0
> > 
> > Currently I get an error when I try to run this script.  Is this expected?  Would it 
> > be possible to implement matching for array values?
> > 
> > Thanks!

I think the issue may be the version of MIDAS I'm using.  Mine is current as of February 4, 2020.  

But since then there have been changes to the sequencer code, specifically parts that handle indexing.

I'll try this out with an updated version of MIDAS and report back if there are still any issues after updating.

> I created some keys in my ODB to try to match yours.
> The ODBSET commands you wrote are all working fine (of course with different results), except only for the "/Detectors/Det*/Settings/Charge/Bias (V)*" which I will have to 
> look into.
> In any case the error message I'm getting is "could not match ay key" and not the one you are reporting.
> 
> Now I'm a bit puzzled:
> Are you sure your ODB contains those keys?
> Are you testing the ODBSET inside a more complex sequencer or on its own?
> 
> Maybe I can try to reproduce it using your ODB setup.
> Could you send an ODB dump of the "/Detectors" folder using the "save" command of odbedit ("cd /Detectors" and then "save detector.odb")?
> 
> Best,
> 
> Marco
> 
> 
> > The following all fail with "Cannot find ODB key "<key>""
> > 
> > ODBSET "/Detectors/Det*/Settings/Charge/Bias (V)[*]" 0
> > ODBSET "/Detectors/Det*/Settings/Charge/Bias (V)[0-9]" 0
> > ODBSET "/Detectors/Det*/Settings/Charge/Bias (V)[1]" 0
> > ODBSET "/Detectors/Det*/Settings/Charge/Bias (V)*" 0
> > ODBSET "/Detectors/Det*/Settings/Charge/Bias (V)" 0
> > 
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > > I guess the issue is in the "[?]" part of the command, the indexing is handled differently from the odb path and does not 
> > > support "?".
> > > Are you trying to set only the first 9 channels?
> > > Could you try with "[*]" or "[0-9]" instead?
> > > 
> > > Marco
> > > 
> > > > I'm interested in using the matching feature for ODBSET explained on 
> > > > https://midas.triumf.ca/MidasWiki/index.php/Sequencer for settings that are in an 
> > > > array, like:
> > > > 
> > > > COMMENT "Ground the detectors"
> > > > ODBSET "/Detectors/Det*/Settings/Charge/Bias (V)[?]" 0
> > > > 
> > > > Currently I get an error when I try to run this script.  Is this expected?  Would it 
> > > > be possible to implement matching for array values?
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks!

We're using the sequencer to manage runs, and this typically looks something like:

1. save ODB keys to variables via ODBGET
2. set ODB keys to new values for a "pre-run" process
3. return ODB keys to values created in line 1
4. take data

The problem I'm running into is that the list of ODB keys to save is pretty 
unwieldy.  I'm wondering if there are sequencer features that exist or that I could 
request that might make this easier.

For example, having a way to list ODB keys, save ODB directories, and load ODB 
directories would be much more concise way for me to write my script.

Another option might be to have some version of the ODBSET wildcards for ODBGET.  
Although for this, setting the variable names might be tricky.  

In any case, even being able to ODBGET an array and set that to one variable name 
would be a big improvement.

Hello, just wanted to re-ping on this question now that folks are starting to get back from 
the holidays.

Creating an ODB key requires users to know the Type ID that are defined in 
https://bitbucket.org/tmidas/midas/src/develop/include/midas.h starting at line 320.

I can't find any information on the Midas Wiki about these values or how to find 
them.

Am I missing something obvious?  Is there a way to improve how to find these values?  
Or is this not the best way to interact with the ODB?

Hello,

I am quite new in both Linux and MIDAS.
I have install MIDAS on my desktop by going through this link: 
https://midas.triumf.ca/MidasWiki/index.php/Quickstart_Linux 

in the last step when I send "mhttpd" command and try to open the link 
https://localhost:8443 (of course, changing the localhost with my host name), it 
failed to connect and shows this error: SSL_ERROR_NO_CYPHER_OVERLAP (please see 
attached file includes a screenshot of the error).

I have tried many ways to solve this problem: In Firefox: going to option/privacy 
and security/ security and uncheck the option "Block dangerous and deceptive 
content". but it does not help.

Looking forward your help
Thanks
Mehran