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  1797   28 Jan 2020 Lukas GerritzenSuggestionMIDAS tested with MariaDB?
I have used the mySQL runlog with MariaDB before. I don't recall any problems on Fedora Core 29 or so (after MIDAS compiled).


Quote:
MariaDB intended to maintain high compatibility with MySQL, ensuring a drop-in replacement capability with library binary parity and exact matching with MySQL APIs and commands.
  1798   28 Jan 2020 Lee PoolSuggestionMIDAS tested with MariaDB?
> We're using the History Logger MIDAS feature and writing to mySQL tables, but 
> in some cases have run into issues installing mySQL on centos7 systems.
> 
> Has anyone ever tried running this MIDAS feature with MariaDB rather than 
> mySQL?

Hi

I've used MIDAS Logger feature with MariaDB and had no issue thus far .
  1803   02 Feb 2020 Konstantin OlchanskiSuggestionMIDAS tested with MariaDB?
> We're using the History Logger MIDAS feature and writing to mySQL tables, but 
> in some cases have run into issues installing mySQL on centos7 systems.
> 
> Has anyone ever tried running this MIDAS feature with MariaDB rather than 
> mySQL?

The best I can tell, MariaDB is *the* mysql. "the other thing" is an abandonware fork.

I personally at this moment do not run any daq stations with mysql logging, and I accidentally
removed all the 25 versions and flavours of mysql from my home laptop, so if there
is any problems with mysql, please holler, and I will reinstall mysql (ahem, mariadb) and restore
my ability to test midas against it.

As a connected question, is there any need to have postgres support in midas as well?

K.O.
  822   27 Jul 2012 Cheng-Ju LinInfoMIDAS under Scientific Linux 6
Hi All,

I was wondering if anyone has attempted to install MIDAS under Scientific Linux 6?  I am planning to install 
Scientific Linux on one of the PCs in our lab to run MIDAS. I would like to know if anyone has been 
successful in getting MIDAS to run under SL6.  Thanks.

Cheng-Ju
  823   31 Jul 2012 Pierre-Andre AmaudruzInfoMIDAS under Scientific Linux 6
Hi Cheng-Ju,

Midas will install and run under SL6. We're presently running SL6.2.
Cheers, PAA

> Hi All,
> 
> I was wondering if anyone has attempted to install MIDAS under Scientific Linux 6?  I am planning to install 
> Scientific Linux on one of the PCs in our lab to run MIDAS. I would like to know if anyone has been 
> successful in getting MIDAS to run under SL6.  Thanks.
> 
> Cheng-Ju
  1851   10 Mar 2020 Konstantin OlchanskiInfoMIDAS vs JSROOT web pages
Just FYI, I am looking at the ROOT web programming component JSROOT and I notice that the RPC mechanism quite different from the JSON-
RPC I implemented for MIDAS.

https://github.com/root-project/jsroot/blob/master/docs/HttpServer.md (explanation of JSROOT RPC and server side machinery)
https://github.com/root-project/jsroot/blob/master/docs/JSROOT.md (explanation of JSROOT javascript library)

Then I looked at the dates:
MIDAS mjsonrpc was done at the end of 2013
JSROOT main development started at the end of 2014.

The web server component in both projects is (almost) the same - vanilla mongoose in mhttpd
and civetweb, a fork of an older version of mongoose, in ROOT/JSROOT.

The web server in both projects is partially multithreaded:
- ROOT THttpServer/TCivetWeb uses multiple threads to handle the network connections and some file access,
but interaction with ROOT is done in the main thread of ROOT. (The main thread must periodically call ProcessRequests()).
- mhttpd uses a single thread to multiplex the network connections (it is a change from old mongoose/civetweb to current mongoose 6.16),
but all requests are farmed to a pool of threads and execute in parallel (unless not thread-safe, i.e. accessing history files).

Both implementations suffer from "head of queue" blocking, a "slow" request i.e. a slow file read, will
delay subsequent quick requests, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head-of-line_blocking#In_HTTP
Solution for this problem is to use HTTP/2 when it becomes supported in mongoose/civetweb/apache httpd (in el7).

It will be interesting to see which on of the two systems works better for building "user facing" web pages... especially
hybrid pages that have to pull data both from midas (using mjsonrpc) and from online ROOT analyzers (using jsroot).

K.O.
  1650   08 Aug 2019 Konstantin OlchanskiInfoMIDAS will use C++11
After much discussion, and following the MIDAS workshop at TRIUMF, we made the decision to use C++11 in MIDAS.

There are many benefits, and only one drawback - no c++11 compilers in the default OS install on older computers (i.e. 
RHEL/SL/CentOS before el7). (the same applies to our use of cmake).

Specifically for el6, the solution is to use c++11 compatible gcc-8 from devtoolset-8, see 
https://midas.triumf.ca/elog/Midas/1649

The c++11 features we most welcome - initialization of class members at declaration time (no more forgetting to add initialization to 
each and every constructor), c++ threads and mutexes, lambdas and "auto".

K.O.
  1852   16 Mar 2020 Konstantin OlchanskiInfoMIDAS will use C++11
> After much discussion, and following the MIDAS workshop at TRIUMF, we made the decision to use C++11 in MIDAS.
> 
> There are many benefits, and only one drawback - no c++11 compilers in the default OS install on older computers (i.e. 
> RHEL/SL/CentOS before el7). (the same applies to our use of cmake).
>

It turns out that support for the c++11 "regex" feature is missing on el7 (CentOS-7, our most common platform at TRIUMF).

According to https://stackoverflow.com/questions/12530406/is-gcc-4-8-or-earlier-buggy-about-regular-expressions
gcc 4.9.0 is the first one to implement c++11 regular expressions. el7 comes with gcc-4.8.5 and I confirm
that examples of using std::regex_replace() do not compile. I was looking to use std::regex_replace to implement URL rewriting
in the reverse proxy code in mhttpd.

I do not need this feature immediately, but I am surprised that such a thing can happen, thought others should know.

K.O.
  1853   16 Mar 2020 Pintaudi GiorgioInfoMIDAS will use C++11
About the boost library, that is exactly 
what I did for a project of mine (the 
calibration software for the WAGASCI 
experiment). It turned out not so easy to 
mantain because different Linux distros 
package different versions of boost.

The reason I went down the "c++11 plus 
boost" road is that the official T2K OS 
is CentOS7 as well.

Looking back I think that using c++17 and 
requiring a more recent version of the 
compiler is much easier to maintain than 
the combo c++11 + boost. In CentOS is 
just a matter of installing a recent 
devtool package ...

Another solution might be too repackage 
boost into MIDAS so you have full control 
of the environment.

> > After much discussion, and following 
the MIDAS workshop at TRIUMF, we made the 
decision to use C++11 in MIDAS.
> > 
> > There are many benefits, and only one 
drawback - no c++11 compilers in the 
default OS install on older computers 
(i.e. 
> > RHEL/SL/CentOS before el7). (the same 
applies to our use of cmake).
> >
> 
> It turns out that support for the c++11 
"regex" feature is missing on el7 
(CentOS-7, our most common platform at 
TRIUMF).
> 
> According to 
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/12530
406/is-gcc-4-8-or-earlier-buggy-about-
regular-expressions
> gcc 4.9.0 is the first one to implement 
c++11 regular expressions. el7 comes with 
gcc-4.8.5 and I confirm
> that examples of using 
std::regex_replace() do not compile. I 
was looking to use std::regex_replace to 
implement URL rewriting
> in the reverse proxy code in mhttpd.
> 
> I do not need this feature immediately, 
but I am surprised that such a thing can 
happen, thought others should know.
> 
> K.O.
  146   28 Sep 2004 Piotr ZolnierczukForumMIDAS/MVME167/Linux
Hi,
 has anyone tried runnning midas frontend on a Linux running 
on a Motorola MVME167 motorola embedded CPU?
I have seen people running Linux on a MV167 
(http://www.sleepie.demon.co.uk/linuxvme/)
so in principle this can be done.

The reason I am asking is that we have a lot of them in house 
and we would like to avoid paying for VxWorks
(I have succesfully run Midas on a mvme167/VxWorks node)

Or maybe one has come up with a much better solution 
[short of dumping mv167 into a sewer :)]

Piotr
  2169   19 May 2021 Francesco RengaSuggestionMYSQL logger
Dear all,
      I'm trying to use the logging on a mysql DB. Following the instructions on 
the Wiki, I recompiled MIDAS after installing mysql, and cmake with NEED_MYSQL=1 
can find it:

-- MIDAS: Found MySQL version 8.0.23

Then, I compiled my frontend (cmake with no options + make) and run it, but in the 
ODB I cannot find the tree for mySQL. I have only:

Logger/Runlog/ASCII

while I would expect also:

Logger/Runlog/SQL

What could be missing? Maybe should I add something in the CMakeList file or run 
cmake with some option?

Thank you,
      Francesco
  2171   21 May 2021 Francesco RengaSuggestionMYSQL logger
I solved this, it was a failed "make clean" before recompiling. Now it works.

Sorry for the noise.

Francesco

> Dear all,
>       I'm trying to use the logging on a mysql DB. Following the instructions on 
> the Wiki, I recompiled MIDAS after installing mysql, and cmake with NEED_MYSQL=1 
> can find it:
> 
> -- MIDAS: Found MySQL version 8.0.23
> 
> Then, I compiled my frontend (cmake with no options + make) and run it, but in the 
> ODB I cannot find the tree for mySQL. I have only:
> 
> Logger/Runlog/ASCII
> 
> while I would expect also:
> 
> Logger/Runlog/SQL
> 
> What could be missing? Maybe should I add something in the CMakeList file or run 
> cmake with some option?
> 
> Thank you,
>       Francesco
  1177   11 May 2016 Thomas LindnerInfoMacOS 10.11 (El Capitan) openssl compilation errors
I recently upgraded my macbook to MacOS 10.11.  The compilation of MIDAS failed after the upgrade, 
complaining about  

gcc  -c -g -O2 -Wall <snip> src/mongoose.c
src/mongoose.c:322:10: fatal error: 'openssl/ssl.h' file not found

It seems that MacOS has now fully removed openssl header files (they were deprecated for a while).  There 
seems to be some notes on that here

http://lists.apple.com/archives/macnetworkprog/2015/Jun/msg00025.html

Konstantin suggested installing open-source builds of openssl using MacPorts.  I did that and MIDAS 
compiled fine.  I documented the procedure here:

https://midas.triumf.ca/MidasWiki/index.php/Installation/Compilation_problems#MacOS_10.11_.28El_Capitan.2
9_openssl_errors
  1178   12 May 2016 Stefan RittInfoMacOS 10.11 (El Capitan) openssl compilation errors
> I recently upgraded my macbook to MacOS 10.11.  The compilation of MIDAS failed after the upgrade, 
> complaining about  
> 
> gcc  -c -g -O2 -Wall <snip> src/mongoose.c
> src/mongoose.c:322:10: fatal error: 'openssl/ssl.h' file not found
> 
> It seems that MacOS has now fully removed openssl header files (they were deprecated for a while).  There 
> seems to be some notes on that here
> 
> http://lists.apple.com/archives/macnetworkprog/2015/Jun/msg00025.html
> 
> Konstantin suggested installing open-source builds of openssl using MacPorts.  I did that and MIDAS 
> compiled fine.  I documented the procedure here:
> 
> https://midas.triumf.ca/MidasWiki/index.php/Installation/Compilation_problems#MacOS_10.11_.28El_Capitan.2
> 9_openssl_errors

The MIDAS Wiki page points to https://guide.macports.org/  which covers OSX up to 10.9. Installers for 10.10 and the current 10.11 
(El Captain) can be found here: https://www.macports.org/install.php

Stefan
  774   05 Jul 2011 Konstantin OlchanskiBug ReportMacOS network socket timeouts non-functional
It turns out that because of differences between select() syscall implementation between UNIX (MacOS, 
maybe BSD) and Linux,  network socket timeouts do not work.

This affects timeouts during run transitions (transition calls to dead clients do not timeout), maybe other 
places.

I am looking into fixing this. The main difficulty is with UNIX select() not updating the timeout parameter 
when it is interrupted by the MIDAS watchdog alarm signal. Linux select() subtracts the elapsed time from 
the timeout value and this code from system.c works correctly: while (1) { status = select(..., &timeout); if 
(status==0) break; } (value of timeout becomes smaller each time), while on MacOS it loops forever (value 
of timeout does not change).
K.O.
  917   01 Oct 2013 Konstantin OlchanskiInfoMacOS select() problem
The following code found in mhttpd does not work on MacOS (BSD UNIX).

On Linux, the do-loop will finish after 2 seconds as expected. On MacOS (and other BSD systems), it will 
loop forever.

The cause is the MIDAS watchdog alarm() signal that fires every 1 second and always interrupts the 2 
second sleep of select(). The Linux select() updates it's timeout argument to reflect time already slept, so 
eventually we finish. The MacOS (BSD) select() does not update the timeout argument and select goes back 
to sleep for another 2 seconds (to be again interrupted half-way through).

The POSIX standard (specification for select() & co) permits either behaviour. Compare "man select" on 
MacOS and on Linux.

If the select() timeout were not 2 seconds, but 0.9 seconds; or if the MIDAS watchdog alarm fired every 
2.1 seconds, this problem would also not exist.

I think there are several places in MIDAS with code like this. An audit is required.

{
                  FD_ZERO(&readfds);
                  FD_SET(_sock, &readfds);

                  timeout.tv_sec = 2;
                  timeout.tv_usec = 0;

                  do {
                     status = select(FD_SETSIZE, &readfds, NULL, NULL, &timeout);
                     /* if an alarm signal was cought, restart with reduced timeout */
                  } while (status == -1 && errno == EINTR);
}

K.O.
  922   25 Oct 2013 Konstantin OlchanskiInfoMacOS select() problem
> The following code found in mhttpd does not work on MacOS (BSD UNIX). ...

Because of this problem, on MacOS, run transitions can get stuck forever - most timeouts do not work. (Specifically, recv_string() never times out)

K.O.
  937   14 Nov 2013 Konstantin OlchanskiBug ReportMacOS10.9 strlcpy() problem
On MacOS 10.9 MIDAS will crashes in strlcpy() somewhere inside odb.c. We think this is because strlcpy() 
in MacOS 10.9 was changed to abort() if input and output strings overlap. For overlapping memory one is 
supposed to use memmove(). This is fixed in current midas, for older versions, you can try this patch:

konstantin-olchanskis-macbook:midas olchansk$ git diff
diff --git a/src/odb.c b/src/odb.c
index 1589dfa..762e2ed 100755
--- a/src/odb.c
+++ b/src/odb.c
@@ -6122,7 +6122,10 @@ INT db_paste(HNDLE hDB, HNDLE hKeyRoot, const char *buffer)
                   pc++;
                while ((*pc == ' ' || *pc == ':') && *pc)
                   pc++;
-               strlcpy(data_str, pc, sizeof(data_str));
+
+               //strlcpy(data_str, pc, sizeof(data_str)); // MacOS 10.9 does not permit strlcpy() of overlapping 
strings
+               assert(strlen(pc) < sizeof(data_str)); // "pc" points at a substring inside "data_str"
+               memmove(data_str, pc, strlen(pc)+1);
 
                if (n_data > 1) {
                   data_str[0] = 0;
konstantin-olchanskis-macbook:midas olchansk$ 


As historical reference:

a) MacOS documentation says "behavior is undefined", which is no longer true, the behaviour is KABOOM!
https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man3/strlcpy.3.h
tml

b) the original strlcpy paper from OpenBSD does not contain the word "overlap" 
http://www.courtesan.com/todd/papers/strlcpy.html

c) the OpenBSD man page says the same as Apple man page (behaviour undefined)
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=strlcpy

d) the linux kernel strlcpy() uses memcpy() and is probably unsafe for overlapping strings
http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/lib/string.c#L149

e) midas strlcpy() looks to be safe for overlapping strings.

K.O.
  777   11 Jul 2011 Konstantin OlchanskiInfoMake "STOP" run transition always succeed
Over the years, there was some back-and-forth changes in what happens to run transitions when some 
of the participants misbehave (do not respond to RPC calls, timeout, crash, etc).

The very original behaviour was to ignore all errors. This resulted in user confusion when some clients 
would start, some would not, data from frontends that missed the transition did not arrive, etc.

So it was changed to fail the transition if any client misbehaves.

This left mlogger (who is usually the first one to see the TR_START transition) in a funny state - output 
file is open, etc, but there is no run active. This was fixed by adding a TR_STARTABORT transition to tell 
mlogger, event builder & co that the just started run did not start after all.

Also at some point code was added to forcefully kill clients that do not respond to run transitions (do 
not respond to RPC, timeout, etc).

Recently, it was observed how during unattended overnight operation of a MIDAS DAQ system, with the 
logger set to "auto restart", some unnecessary clients misbehave during the run stop transition, and 
prevent the run from stopping and restarting. The user comes in the morning and is unhappy that data 
taking stopped some time during the night.

midas.c svn rev 5136 changes the TR_STOP transition to always succeed, even if some clients had 
transition errors. If these clients are unnecessary for normal operation of the DAQ, the following run 
"auto restart" will continue taking data. If those were important clients, data taking will continue the 
best it can - it *is* unattended operation - nobody is looking - but users can always setup alarms for 
checking that important clients are always running during data taking. (For very important clients, one 
can setup alarms to send email, send SMS messages, etc).

K.O.
  1961   28 Jun 2020 Konstantin OlchanskiInfoMakefile update
I reworked the MIDAS Makefile to simplify things and to remove redundancy with functions 
provided by cmake.

When you say "make", the list of options is printed.

The first and main options are "make cmake" and "make cclean" to run the cmake build.

This is my recommended way to build midas - the output of "make cmake" was tuned to provide 
the information need to debug build problems (all compiler commands, command line switches 
and file paths are reported). (normal "cmake VERBOSE=1" is tuned for debugging of cmake and 
for maximum obfuscation of problems building the actual project).

Build options are implemented through cmake variables:

options that can be added to "make cmake":
      NO_LOCAL_ROUTINES=1 NO_CURL=1
      NO_ROOT=1 NO_ODBC=1 NO_SQLITE=1 NO_MYSQL=1 NO_SSL=1 NO_MBEDTLS=1
      NO_EXPORT_COMPILE_COMMANDS=1

for example "make cmake NO_ROOT=1" to disable auto-detection of ROOT.

Two more make targets create reduced builds of midas:

"make mini" builds a subset of midas suitable for building frontend programs. Big programs 
like mlogger and mhttpd are excluded, optional components like CURL or SQLITE are not needed.

"make remoteonly" builds a subset of midas suitable for building remotely connected 
frontends. Big parts of midas are excluded, many system-dependent functions are excluded, 
etc. This is intended for embedded applications, such as fpga, uclinux, etc.

But wait, there is more. Here is the full list:

daqubuntu:midas$ make
Usage:

   make cmake     --- full build of midas
   make cclean    --- remove everything build by make cmake

   options that can be added to "make cmake":
      NO_LOCAL_ROUTINES=1 NO_CURL=1
      NO_ROOT=1 NO_ODBC=1 NO_SQLITE=1 NO_MYSQL=1 NO_SSL=1 NO_MBEDTLS=1
      NO_EXPORT_COMPILE_COMMANDS=1

   make dox       --- run doxygen, results are in ./html/index.html
   make cleandox  --- remove doxygen output

   make htmllint  --- run html check on resources/*.html

   make test      --- run midas self test

   make mbedtls   --- enable mhttpd support for https via the mbedtls https library
   make update_mbedtls --- update mbedtls to latest version
   make clean_mbedtls  --- remove mbedtls from this midas build

   make mtcpproxy --- build the https proxy to forward root-only port 443 to mhttpd https 
port 8443

   make mini      --- minimal build, results are in linux/{bin,lib}
   make cleanmini --- remove everything build by make mini

   make remoteonly      --- minimal build, remote connetion only, results are in linux-
remoteonly/{bin,lib}
   make cleanremoteonly --- remove everything build by make remoteonly

   make linux32   --- minimal x86 -m32 build, results are in linux-m32/{bin,lib}
   make clean32   --- remove everything built by make linux32

   make linux64   --- minimal x86 -m64 build, results are in linux-m64/{bin,lib}
   make clean64   --- remove everything built by make linux64

   make linuxarm  --- minimal ARM cross-build, results are in linux-arm/{bin,lib}
   make cleanarm  --- remove everything built by make linuxarm

   make clean     --- run all 'clean' commands

daqubuntu:midas$ 

K.O.
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