Hi All,

I've installed midas (Rev:5294) on SLC6.3 (64bit), along with recent trunk versions of rootana and roody. 
All the packages compiled OK. The example code in $MIDASSYS/examples/experiment also runs OK 
provided that I don't launch roody. If I try to launch roody, then it immediately crashes the analyzer with 
the following trace:

#6 root_server_thread (arg=ox7f54fc001150) at src/mana.c:5154
#7 0x0000003219a1e13a in TThread::Function(void*) () from /usr/lib64/root/libThread.so.5.28
#8 0x0000003dd1207851 in start_thread () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
#9 0x0000003dd0ee76dd in clone () from /lib64/libc.so.6

The line src/mana.c:5154 points to the following:

TObject *obj;
            if (strncmp(request + 10, "Any", 3) == 0)
               obj = folder->FindObjectAny(request + 14);
            else
               obj = folder->FindObject(request + 11);    // LINE 5154


Any suggestions on what may be going on here?  Thanks.


Cheng-Ju

OK, I've found the solution in the roody forum.  The solution for 64bit machine is to replace
   uint32_t p =0;
   with
   uintptr_t p =0;

in the roody header file roody/include/DataSourceTNetFolder.h

Cheng-Ju



> Hi All,
> 
> I've installed midas (Rev:5294) on SLC6.3 (64bit), along with recent trunk versions of rootana and roody. 
> All the packages compiled OK. The example code in $MIDASSYS/examples/experiment also runs OK 
> provided that I don't launch roody. If I try to launch roody, then it immediately crashes the analyzer with 
> the following trace:
> 
> #6 root_server_thread (arg=ox7f54fc001150) at src/mana.c:5154
> #7 0x0000003219a1e13a in TThread::Function(void*) () from /usr/lib64/root/libThread.so.5.28
> #8 0x0000003dd1207851 in start_thread () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
> #9 0x0000003dd0ee76dd in clone () from /lib64/libc.so.6
> 
> The line src/mana.c:5154 points to the following:
> 
> TObject *obj;
>             if (strncmp(request + 10, "Any", 3) == 0)
>                obj = folder->FindObjectAny(request + 14);
>             else
>                obj = folder->FindObject(request + 11);    // LINE 5154
> 
> 
> Any suggestions on what may be going on here?  Thanks.
> 
> 
> Cheng-Ju

> I've installed midas (Rev:5294) on SLC6.3 (64bit), along with recent trunk versions of rootana and roody. 
>
> #6 root_server_thread (arg=ox7f54fc001150) at src/mana.c:5154

You are connecting to mana, the old midas analyzer. The code for connecting to it is still present in roody,
but I cannot support the matching server code in mana.c - it is 2 revolutions behind the current state of
the ROOT object server (look in ROOTANA - the NetDirectory stuff and the latest is the XmlServer stuff).

I can offer 2 solutions - switch from mana.c to a ROOTANA based analyzer or graft the XmlServer code
into your analyzer (it is very simple - you need to create an XmlServer object and tell it which ROOT
containers you want to make visible to ROODY).

I guess you can also debug the old midas server code inside mana.c...

K.O.

Hi Konstantin,

Many thanks for your feedback.  I was able to keep the analyzer from exiting when launching roody by making some changes in the roody code. 
This at least allows me to keep moving forward. I will look into your suggestion of converting to ROOTANA based analyzer as well.

Regards,

Cheng-Ju


> > I've installed midas (Rev:5294) on SLC6.3 (64bit), along with recent trunk versions of rootana and roody. 
> >
> > #6 root_server_thread (arg=ox7f54fc001150) at src/mana.c:5154
> 
> You are connecting to mana, the old midas analyzer. The code for connecting to it is still present in roody,
> but I cannot support the matching server code in mana.c - it is 2 revolutions behind the current state of
> the ROOT object server (look in ROOTANA - the NetDirectory stuff and the latest is the XmlServer stuff).
> 
> I can offer 2 solutions - switch from mana.c to a ROOTANA based analyzer or graft the XmlServer code
> into your analyzer (it is very simple - you need to create an XmlServer object and tell it which ROOT
> containers you want to make visible to ROODY).
> 
> I guess you can also debug the old midas server code inside mana.c...
> 
> K.O.

Hi,

I need to install MIDAS on a Windows system (Microsoft Windows Server 2003). 
The computer has the Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Express version.
I have downloaded the MIDAS packages using the tarball mechanism. I have create 
the environment variables without problems and I have create the file           
%SystemRoot%\system32\exptab 
But when I try to build MIDAS and I do 
nmake -f makefile.nt
I have the following problem:
Microsoft (R) Program Maintenance Utility Version 10.00.30319.01
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

NMAKE : fatal error U1073: don't know how to make 'src/mhttpd.c'
Stop.

I don't understand this problem. Can anybody help me, please?

Thanks in advance!!!

Hi Raquel,

The makefile.nt has been corrected.
Obviously Midas on Windows has not been updated for quite a while.
mhttpd.c has been converted to c++ (mhttpd.cxx) as well as a couple of other 
applications.

Please give a try,  PAA

> Hi,
> 
> I need to install MIDAS on a Windows system (Microsoft Windows Server 2003). 
> The computer has the Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Express version.
> I have downloaded the MIDAS packages using the tarball mechanism. I have create 
> the environment variables without problems and I have create the file           
> %SystemRoot%\system32\exptab 
> But when I try to build MIDAS and I do 
> nmake -f makefile.nt
> I have the following problem:
> Microsoft (R) Program Maintenance Utility Version 10.00.30319.01
> Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.
> 
> NMAKE : fatal error U1073: don't know how to make 'src/mhttpd.c'
> Stop.
> 
> I don't understand this problem. Can anybody help me, please?
> 
> Thanks in advance!!!

A new pipe compression has been implemented in mlogger thanks to Fedor Ignatov from BINP 
Novosibirsk. The way it works that the logger write into a pipe instead directly into a file. The pipe can 
then be connected to any compression program without the need to copile against any additional C 
library.

To use is, enter as the filename for example

|bzip2>run%05d.mid     (note the pipe '|' in front of the bzip2)

This way the data stream is run through the bzip2 program, which is known to have better compression 
ratio than gzip. Furthermore, the parallel version of bzip2 can be used, which spreads over all available 
CPU cures and speeds up compression almost linearly with the number of cores. This parallel version 
called pbzip2 can be found here:

http://compression.ca/pbzip2/

It can be easily compiled and installed. Using this method in the MEG experiment at PSI, we can compress 
our waveform data to 37% or it's original size (49% with gzip), and on 8 cores we get a compression rate 
of about 40 MBytes/sec (23 MBytes with gzip on a single core).

The disadvantage of that method is that one cannot see the compression ratio online, but this is not a big 
deal I guess. The new version has been committed as rev. 5324. 

/Stefan

Hi, when attempting to access a history window the following message is repeated
over and over in the MIDAS message log:

Thu Sep 6 11:37:16 2012 [mhttpd,ERROR] [history.c:886:hs_count_events,ERROR]
cannot find recent history file
Thu Sep 6 11:38:16 2012 [mhttpd,ERROR] [history.c:886:hs_count_events,ERROR]
cannot find recent history file
Thu Sep 6 11:38:16 2012 [mhttpd,ERROR] [history.c:886:hs_count_events,ERROR]
cannot find recent history file
Thu Sep 6 11:39:16 2012 [mhttpd,ERROR] [history.c:886:hs_count_events,ERROR]
cannot find recent history file
Thu Sep 6 11:39:16 2012 [mhttpd,ERROR] [history.c:886:hs_count_events,ERROR]
cannot find recent history file

It appears to be related to attempting to display a history graph that includes
some time periods that have no recorded history data. When I zoom in so that the
whole graph has data the error message goes away.

The graph displays fine either way, so this error message seems useless. Is
there a way to suppress it?

Thanks
Shaun

Hi,

I've written a python script that reads some data from a file and generates a
.png image. I want to have a button on my MIDAS status page that:

- executes the script and waits for it to finish,
- then displays the image

How can I do that? I tried using the sequencer to just execute the script every
30 seconds, but I can't get it to work, and it would be better to only execute
the script on demand anyway. 

I also am having trouble getting image display to work. I have the ODB keys set:

[local:oven1:S]/Custom>ls
Temperature Map&                /home/deap/ovendaq/online/index.html
Images

[local:oven1:S]/Custom>ls Images/temps.png/           
Background                      /home/deap/ovendaq/online/temps.png

And the HTML file is just this:
<img src="temps.png">

But the image won't display. It shows a "broken" picture, and when I try to view
it directly it says: Invalid custom page: Page not found in ODB.

Any help would be appreciated...

Thanks
Shaun

> Hi,
> 
> I've written a python script that reads some data from a file and generates a
> .png image. I want to have a button on my MIDAS status page that:
> 
> - executes the script and waits for it to finish,
> - then displays the image
> 
> How can I do that? I tried using the sequencer to just execute the script every
> 30 seconds, but I can't get it to work, and it would be better to only execute
> the script on demand anyway. 
> 
> I also am having trouble getting image display to work. I have the ODB keys set:
> 
> [local:oven1:S]/Custom>ls
> Temperature Map&                /home/deap/ovendaq/online/index.html
> Images
> 
> [local:oven1:S]/Custom>ls Images/temps.png/           
> Background                      /home/deap/ovendaq/online/temps.png
> 
> And the HTML file is just this:
> <img src="temps.png">
> 
> But the image won't display. It shows a "broken" picture, and when I try to view
> it directly it says: Invalid custom page: Page not found in ODB.
> 
> Any help would be appreciated...
> 
> Thanks
> Shaun


If you use the "custom" image system, you need to use GIF images. mhttpd can dynamically create GIF 
images, 
with a background image and overlaid labels, bar graphs etc. But mhttpd just contains a GIF library to do 
that 
in memory, but no PNG library.

Actually I would recommend you not to use a script to create an image, but use the custom image system 
to 
display temperatures. In the attachment you see an page from our experiment which contains a 
background image (the greyish boxes), labels (white temperature boxes), bar graphs (blue level boxes) 
and history pages (left side). This is all dynamically created inside mhttpd using the custom page system 
without any external script. All you have to do is to get the temperatures and levels inside the ODB via the 
slow control system. If you want, I can send you the full code for that page.

Cheers,
Stefan

> > 
> > I guess you can also debug the old midas server code inside mana.c...
> > 

I ended up doing this. (After receiving some discussion by email).

Remembered that this is an old problem with the old midasServer network
protocol in mana.c - if mana.c is compiled 32-bit, it sends 32-bit pointers, if compiled 64-bit
it sends 64-bit pointers. On the receiving end (in roody), the ROOT TMessage object does not
provide any easy way to tell between them (i.e. object length is reported as 12 or 16 for the two cases).

To make things more interesting, the midasServer code in ROOTANA always sends 32-bit "pointers",
(which are not pointers but 32-bit integer cookies).

I use the ROOTANA midasServer to test ROODY (I have no working mana.c analyzers available),
and ROODY expects to receive 32-bit "pointers", so the two are consistent.

But if I compile my midasServer to send/receive 64-bit "pointers" (cookies), I reproduce this crash. What I can reproduce I can "fix".

If I change the code in ROODY to receive and return 64-bit "pointers" (cookies), both 32-bit and 64-bit midasServer seems to work okey.

This is committed as roody svn rev 248. (https://ladd00.triumf.ca/svn/roody/trunk)

It is the same fix as suggested by Cheng-Ju Stephen Lin [cjslin@lbl.gov].

I hope this helps (or breaks the ROODY midasServer connection for everybody. I hope not).

K.O.

Hi,

I had to apply the attached patch to convince SuSE Linux 12.2 to compile mana.c
gcc version is "(SUSE Linux) 4.6.2"

Problem is that gz{write,close, etc.} expect a 1st argument of type gzFile (see
zlib.h), whereas out_file is FILE*. In fact, out_file is a cast to FILE*, even
in the case when we work on a gzfile (HAVE_ZLIB).

Could you please confirm that the patch is correct, and possibly apply it to trunk?

I haven't checked if mana works as advertised now.

Cheers,


Randolf

> Hi,
> 
> I had to apply the attached patch to convince SuSE Linux 12.2 to compile mana.c
> gcc version is "(SUSE Linux) 4.6.2"
> 
> Problem is that gz{write,close, etc.} expect a 1st argument of type gzFile (see
> zlib.h), whereas out_file is FILE*. In fact, out_file is a cast to FILE*, even
> in the case when we work on a gzfile (HAVE_ZLIB).
> 
> Could you please confirm that the patch is correct, and possibly apply it to trunk?
> 
> I haven't checked if mana works as advertised now.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> Randolf

I applied your patch to the trunk.

Best,
Stefan

Hi Pierre-André, 

sorry for the long delay, another things keep me out of this computer.
Thanks a lot for correcting makefile.nt and the other applications!

Now I have try, downloading the MIDAS packages from the tarball mechanism, as
before,
and now it seems that the previous problems are solved. It remains only one small
problem, it is related to the odbedit.

I attach here the figure with the error that is reported by the computer. Is it
possible that is another file that needs to be updated? Can you help me with that?

Thanks a lot in advance!!!!



> Hi Raquel,
> 
> The makefile.nt has been corrected.
> Obviously Midas on Windows has not been updated for quite a while.
> mhttpd.c has been converted to c++ (mhttpd.cxx) as well as a couple of other 
> applications.
> 
> Please give a try,  PAA
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I need to install MIDAS on a Windows system (Microsoft Windows Server 2003). 
> > The computer has the Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Express version.
> > I have downloaded the MIDAS packages using the tarball mechanism. I have create 
> > the environment variables without problems and I have create the file           
> > %SystemRoot%\system32\exptab 
> > But when I try to build MIDAS and I do 
> > nmake -f makefile.nt
> > I have the following problem:
> > Microsoft (R) Program Maintenance Utility Version 10.00.30319.01
> > Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.
> > 
> > NMAKE : fatal error U1073: don't know how to make 'src/mhttpd.c'
> > Stop.
> > 
> > I don't understand this problem. Can anybody help me, please?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance!!!

Hi, I'm having some trouble getting ss_thread_kill() to work properly. It seems 
to kill the entire program instead 
of just the thread. Here is a test program to show the error:

_________________________________
#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
#include "midas.h"
#include "msystem.h"

INT f(void *param)
{
  for (int x = 0; x < 100; x++)
    sleep(1);
  return 0;
}

int main()
{
  printf("creating thread\n");
  midas_thread_t thr = ss_thread_create(f, NULL);
  sleep(2);
  printf("killing thread\n");
  ss_thread_kill(thr);
  printf("success\n");
  return 0;
}
_________________________________

Makefile:
_________________________________
FLAGS=-g -Wall -DLINUX -DOS_LINUX -I/home/deap/packages/midas/include 
LIBS=-L/home/deap/packages/midas/linux-m64/lib -lmidas -lpthread -lrt -lutil

main.exe: main.cpp 
	g++ $(FLAGS) -o $@ $^ $(LIBS)

_________________________________

Output when run:

_________________________________

[deap@deap04 multithread]$ ./main.exe 
creating thread
killing thread
Killed
[deap@deap04 multithread]$ 
_________________________________

The last "Killed" indicated the whole program got killed, when it should 
actually just kill the thread and then 
print "success".

I noticed the function in system.c uses pthread_kill(). Some google searches 
show me that it may be better to use 
pthread_cancel() (ie http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3438536/when-to-use-
pthread-cancel-and-not-pthread-kill ).


Shaun

The Linux thread functionality was introduced by Konstantin, so he might have a better idea about that.

What I usually do is a graceful thread shutdown just by a flag. Like

int stop_thread = 0;

INT f(void *param)
{
  for (int x = 0; x < 100; x++) {
    sleep(1);
    if (stop_thread) {
      // clean up things here...
      return 0;
    }
  }
  return 0;
}

int main()
{
 printf("creating thread\n");
 midas_thread_t thr = ss_thread_create(f, NULL);
 sleep(2);
 printf("killing thread\n");
 stop_thread = 1;
 sleep(2);
 printf("success\n");
 return 0;
}


This way I have a chance to clean up things in the thread, which otherwise I would not be able to.

> Hi, I'm having some trouble getting ss_thread_kill() to work properly. It seems 
> to kill the entire program instead of just the thread.

You cannot kill a thread. It's not a well defined operation. Most OSes do have the 
technical possibility to kill threads, but if you use them, you will not like the 
results. For a taste of small trouble, if a thread is holding a lock and you kill 
it, who's job is it to release the lock?

The best you can do is to ask the thread to gracefully shutdown itself. (I.e. by 
using global variable flags).

P.S. I did not implement the ss_thread stuff, I do not know what ss_thread_kill() 
does, but I recommend that you do not use it.

P.P.S. Programming using threads is complicated, I recommend that you read at least 
some literature on the topic before using threads. At the least you must understand 
the common pitfalls and mistakes. At the least, you must know about deadlocks, 
livelocks, race conditions and semaphore priority inversions.

K.O.

> > Hi, I'm having some trouble getting ss_thread_kill() to work properly. It seems 
> > to kill the entire program instead of just the thread.
> 
> You cannot kill a thread. It's not a well defined operation. Most OSes do have the 
> technical possibility to kill threads, but if you use them, you will not like the 
> results. For a taste of small trouble, if a thread is holding a lock and you kill 
> it, who's job is it to release the lock?
> 
> The best you can do is to ask the thread to gracefully shutdown itself. (I.e. by 
> using global variable flags).
> 
> P.S. I did not implement the ss_thread stuff, I do not know what ss_thread_kill() 
> does, but I recommend that you do not use it.
> 
> P.P.S. Programming using threads is complicated, I recommend that you read at least 
> some literature on the topic before using threads. At the least you must understand 
> the common pitfalls and mistakes. At the least, you must know about deadlocks, 
> livelocks, race conditions and semaphore priority inversions.
> 
> K.O.

Yes, but unfortunately what I was attempting to do was use a library function that I
can't alter. It sometimes gets stuck and I wanted a way to kill it. Anyway I ended up
not doing this at all in c++; I was able to do what I needed in python.

Shaun