Hi Konstantin,

Many thanks for your feedback.  I was able to keep the analyzer from exiting when launching roody by making some changes in the roody code. 
This at least allows me to keep moving forward. I will look into your suggestion of converting to ROOTANA based analyzer as well.

Regards,

Cheng-Ju


> > I've installed midas (Rev:5294) on SLC6.3 (64bit), along with recent trunk versions of rootana and roody. 
> >
> > #6 root_server_thread (arg=ox7f54fc001150) at src/mana.c:5154
> 
> You are connecting to mana, the old midas analyzer. The code for connecting to it is still present in roody,
> but I cannot support the matching server code in mana.c - it is 2 revolutions behind the current state of
> the ROOT object server (look in ROOTANA - the NetDirectory stuff and the latest is the XmlServer stuff).
> 
> I can offer 2 solutions - switch from mana.c to a ROOTANA based analyzer or graft the XmlServer code
> into your analyzer (it is very simple - you need to create an XmlServer object and tell it which ROOT
> containers you want to make visible to ROODY).
> 
> I guess you can also debug the old midas server code inside mana.c...
> 
> K.O.

> > 
> > I guess you can also debug the old midas server code inside mana.c...
> > 

I ended up doing this. (After receiving some discussion by email).

Remembered that this is an old problem with the old midasServer network
protocol in mana.c - if mana.c is compiled 32-bit, it sends 32-bit pointers, if compiled 64-bit
it sends 64-bit pointers. On the receiving end (in roody), the ROOT TMessage object does not
provide any easy way to tell between them (i.e. object length is reported as 12 or 16 for the two cases).

To make things more interesting, the midasServer code in ROOTANA always sends 32-bit "pointers",
(which are not pointers but 32-bit integer cookies).

I use the ROOTANA midasServer to test ROODY (I have no working mana.c analyzers available),
and ROODY expects to receive 32-bit "pointers", so the two are consistent.

But if I compile my midasServer to send/receive 64-bit "pointers" (cookies), I reproduce this crash. What I can reproduce I can "fix".

If I change the code in ROODY to receive and return 64-bit "pointers" (cookies), both 32-bit and 64-bit midasServer seems to work okey.

This is committed as roody svn rev 248. (https://ladd00.triumf.ca/svn/roody/trunk)

It is the same fix as suggested by Cheng-Ju Stephen Lin [cjslin@lbl.gov].

I hope this helps (or breaks the ROODY midasServer connection for everybody. I hope not).

K.O.

The HTTPS SSL certificate on ladd00.triumf.ca has been updated. Same as the old
certificate, the new one is self-signed and your web browser may complain about
that and ask you to "save a security exception".

When you save the new certificate, you can verify that you are connected to the
real ladd00.triumf.ca by comparing the "SHA1 fingerprint" reported by your web
browser to the one given below (as reported by "svn update"):

Certificate information:
 - Hostname: ladd00.triumf.ca
 - Valid: from Mon, 10 Jun 2013 18:43:19 GMT until Tue, 10 Jun 2014 18:43:19 GMT
 - Issuer: DAQ, TRIUMF, Vancouver, BC, CA
 - Fingerprint: 3f:15:d0:1d:68:ae:f0:73:10:78:84:66:f3:af:c7:67:5c:70:00:62

At the same time, elogd was updated to latest version from Stefan (elog-2.9.2-1.i386).

Also as part of local computer updates, elogd is temporarily running on ladd03.triumf.ca. This should be 
transparent to all users but please let me know if there are strange artefacts, etc. (ladd03 will become the 
new ladd00 "soon").

K.O.

The HTTPS SSL certificate on ladd00.triumf.ca has been updated. Same as the old
certificate, the new one is self-signed and your web browser may complain about
that and ask you to "save a security exception".

When you save the new certificate, you can verify that you are connected to the
real ladd00.triumf.ca by comparing the "SHA1 fingerprint" reported by your web
browser to the one given below (as reported by "svn update"):

Certificate information:
 - Hostname: ladd00.triumf.ca
 - Valid: from Jun 17 23:36:35 2011 GMT until Jun 16 23:36:35 2012 GMT
 - Issuer: DAQ, TRIUMF, Vancouver, BC, CA
 - Fingerprint: 2a:be:9f:9f:70:d4:dc:72:9f:63:bf:4f:fe:c0:2c:8f:a8:29:f2:f1

K.O.

The HTTPS SSL certificate on ladd00.triumf.ca has been updated. Same as the old
certificate, the new one is self-signed and your web browser may complain about
that and ask you to "save a security exception".

When you save the new certificate, you can verify that you are connected to the
real ladd00.triumf.ca by comparing the "SHA1 fingerprint" reported by your web
browser to the one given below (as reported by "svn update"):

Certificate information:
 - Hostname: ladd00.triumf.ca
 - Valid: from Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:31:51 GMT until Thu, 13 Jun 2013 22:31:51 GMT
 - Issuer: DAQ, TRIUMF, Vancouver, BC, CA
 - Fingerprint: 82:95:78:cb:78:d3:93:1d:d4:c8:e8:1a:64:0f:62:04:2d:0e:c3:4a

K.O.

Dear all,
is there any way to order the labels in the history plot legend? In the old 
system there was the “order” column in the config panel, but I can not find it 
in the new system. Thanks in advance for the support.

Best regards,
Marco Chiappini

> is there any way to order the labels in the history plot legend? In the old 
> system there was the “order” column in the config panel, but I can not find it 
> in the new system. Thanks in advance for the support.

correct, for reasons unknown, the function to reorder and to delete individual 
entries was removed from the history panel editor.

K.O.

> > is there any way to order the labels in the history plot legend? In the old 
> > system there was the “order” column in the config panel, but I can not find it 
> > in the new system. Thanks in advance for the support.
> 
> correct, for reasons unknown, the function to reorder and to delete individual 
> entries was removed from the history panel editor.
> 
> K.O.

https://bitbucket.org/tmidas/midas/issues/284/history-panel-editor-reordering-of

K.O.

Hello,
      I'm trying to build khyt1331 under scientific linux 5.5, kernel
2.6.18-238.9.1el5.  Has anyone succeeded with this.  So far, I've
managed to compile by hacking all the references to man9 pages out
of the makefile.  I've then hand installed the kernel driver with 
insmod.  cat /proc/khyt1331 produces 
Hytec 5331 card found at address 0xE800, using interrupt 10
Device not in use
CAMAC crate 0: responding
CAMAC crate 1: not responding
CAMAC crate 2: not responding
CAMAC crate 3: not responding 
and the "addr" LED blinks - so progress of some sort.  
There's no sign of /dev/camac.

Next up I'm going to compile stuff like camactest.c - though the 
makefiles in the drivers folder don't mention these, so I'll have to
work through what is needed by hand.   

At some point I'll have to rewrite a bit so that it all load automatically.

Any hints or tips greatfully received.

John McMillan

I added json-rpc requests for ODB /Script and /CustomScript (the first one shows up on the status page in the left hand side menu, the 
second one is "hidden", intended for use by custom pages).

To invoke the RPC method do this: (from mhttpd.js). Use parameter "customscript" instead of "script" to execute scripts from ODB 
/CustomScript.

One can identify the version of MIDAS that has this function implemented by the left hand side menu - the script links are placed by script 
buttons.

<pre>
function mhttpd_exec_script(name)
{
   //console.log("exec_script: " + name);
   var params = new Object;
   params.script = name;
   mjsonrpc_call("exec_script", params).then(function(rpc) {
      var status = rpc.result.status;
      if (status != 1) {
         dlgAlert("Exec script \"" + name + "\" status " + status);
      }
   }).catch(function(error) {
      mjsonrpc_error_alert(error);
   });
}
</pre>

The underlying code moved from mhttpd.cxx to the midas library as cm_exec_script(odb_path);

K.O.

For us it would be a handy feature if history data could be requested directly
from a custom page (time range or run based intervals) . Here I am not talking
about history plots but I am talking about recorded time series data. This way
we could easily generate useful graphs. For instance, if we measure the voltage
(constant current) while cooling, we could instantly get the resistance versus
temperature. Often we would like to 'correlate' recorded slow control data.

Is it already possible to extract history data the way suggested?

> For us it would be a handy feature if history data could be requested directly
> from a custom page (time range or run based intervals) . Here I am not talking
> about history plots but I am talking about recorded time series data. This way
> we could easily generate useful graphs. For instance, if we measure the voltage
> (constant current) while cooling, we could instantly get the resistance versus
> temperature. Often we would like to 'correlate' recorded slow control data.
> 
> Is it already possible to extract history data the way suggested?

There are sundry hs_read() json rpc methods already implemented in preparation
of writing a javascript based history viewer (did not happen yet).

You can try to use them, they should work, but have not been tested extensively.

To find this stuff:
a) go to the mhttpd "help" page, open the "json rpc schema in text table format", look for the "hs_xxx" methods.
b) also from the "help" page, open "javascript examples- example.html", scroll down to "hs_get_active_events". Press the buttons, they should 
work, look at the source code to see how to call the rpc methods from your own page.

K.O.

I am getting the following error alert in a custom page whenever a run starts

json parser exception: SyntaxError: Unexpected token < in JSON at position 985, batch request: method: "db_get_values", params: [object Object], id: 1598691925697 method: "get_alarms", params: null, id: 1598691925697 method: "cm_msg_retrieve", params: [object Object], id: 1598691925697 method: "cm_msg_retrieve", params: [object Object], id: 1598691925697

Does anyone know why and what causes this? This does not affect anything and things seem to continue running fine.

thanks.

> I am getting the following error alert in a custom page whenever a run starts
> json parser exception: SyntaxError: Unexpected token < in JSON at position 985, batch request: method: "db_get_values", params: [object Object], id: 1598691925697 method: "get_alarms", params: null, id: 1598691925697 method: "cm_msg_retrieve", params: [object Object], id: 1598691925697 method: "cm_msg_retrieve", params: [object Object], id: 1598691925697
> Does anyone know why and what causes this? This does not affect anything and things seem to continue running fine.

this is bug #242, https://bitbucket.org/tmidas/midas/issues/242/mjsonrpc-calls-should-return-valid-utf8

we read stuff from midas.log and push it to the web browser. we have seen this stuff
contain arbitrary binary data (both intentionally written into midas.log by cm_msg() and
file content corruption/truncation from computer crashes), the json decoder in the web browser
does not like that stuff - it is invalid utf-8 unicode - and throws an exception.

since we cannot ensure content of midas.log (and other files on disk) are always valid utf-8,
we have to sanitize it before sending it to the browser.

right now I am not sure of the best way to do this sanitizing. we do have a function to check
for valid utf-8 unicode, perhaps it should be extended to replace invalid unicode with spaces
or Xes or "?" or whatever, I am open to suggestions and ideas.

BTW, this is a new recent change to how strings generally work. C NUL-terminated strings are
permitted to contain arbitrary binary data (except for NUL char, of course). C++ std::string
are permitted to contain arbitrary binary data. but javascript strings are only permitted
to contain valid unicode, and the json standard was recently amended to require that json
strings are valid utf-8 unicode. So there is a disconnect between C/C++ code written in the
last 50 years where strings can contain binary data and the javascript world requiring
valid utf-8 unicode pretty much everywhere.

K.O.

MIDAS does not seem to be consistent (or at least convenient) with how it
handles booleans in AJAX functions.

When you request an ODB value that is a boolean with AJAX call like

http://neut14.triumf.ca:8081/?cmd=jcopy&odb=/Equipment/DCRC/Common/Hidden&format=json-nokeys

then you get

{ "Hidden/last_written" : 1437065425, "Hidden" : false }

This seems correct, since the JSON convention has booleans encoded as true/false.

But this convention does not work when trying to set the boolean value. For instance

http://neut14.triumf.ca:8081/?cmd=jset&odb=/Equipment/DCRC/Common/Hidden&format=json-nokeys&value=true

does not set the variable to true. To make this work you need to use the
characters y/n

http://neut14.triumf.ca:8081/?cmd=jset&odb=/Equipment/DCRC/Common/Hidden&format=json-nokeys&value=y

I tested this with ajax/jset, but the same problem seems to occur when using the
javascript function ODBSet. The documentation doesn't say what sort of encoding
to use when using these functions, so I guess the idea is that these functions
use MIDAS encoding for booleans. But it seems to me that it would be more
convenient if jset/ODBSet allowed the option to use json/javascript encoding for
boolean values; or at least had that as a format option for jset/ODBSet.  That
way my javascript could look like

var mybool = true;
URI_command =
"?cmd=jset&odb=/Equipment/DCRC/Common/Hidden&format=json-nokeys&value=" + mybool;

instead of

var mybool = true;
URI_command = ""
if(mybool){
  URI_command =
"?cmd=jset&odb=/Equipment/DCRC/Common/Hidden&format=json-nokeys&value=y";
else
  URI_command =
"?cmd=jset&odb=/Equipment/DCRC/Common/Hidden&format=json-nokeys&value=n";


__________________________________________________________
Cross-posting from bitbucket issue tracker:

https://bitbucket.org/tmidas/midas/issues/29/jset-odbset-using-true-false-for-booleans

See bitbucket for the solution.

https://bitbucket.org/tmidas/midas/issues/29/jset-odbset-using-true-false-for-booleans#comment-20550474

> MIDAS does not seem to be consistent (or at least convenient) with how it
> handles booleans in AJAX functions.

MIDAS documentation does not say that arguments to "jset" (ODBSet) should be JSON-encoded:
https://midas.triumf.ca/MidasWiki/index.php/AJAX#jset

You found undocumented behavior.

As solution, we plan to replace "jset/ODBSet" with a JSON-RPC function, where all parameters will be JSON-encoded 
(obviously).

K.O.


> 
> When you request an ODB value that is a boolean with AJAX call like
> 
> http://neut14.triumf.ca:8081/?cmd=jcopy&odb=/Equipment/DCRC/Common/Hidden&format=json-nokeys
> 
> then you get
> 
> { "Hidden/last_written" : 1437065425, "Hidden" : false }
> 
> This seems correct, since the JSON convention has booleans encoded as true/false.
> 
> But this convention does not work when trying to set the boolean value. For instance
> 
> http://neut14.triumf.ca:8081/?cmd=jset&odb=/Equipment/DCRC/Common/Hidden&format=json-nokeys&value=true
> 
> does not set the variable to true. To make this work you need to use the
> characters y/n
> 
> http://neut14.triumf.ca:8081/?cmd=jset&odb=/Equipment/DCRC/Common/Hidden&format=json-nokeys&value=y
> 
> I tested this with ajax/jset, but the same problem seems to occur when using the
> javascript function ODBSet. The documentation doesn't say what sort of encoding
> to use when using these functions, so I guess the idea is that these functions
> use MIDAS encoding for booleans. But it seems to me that it would be more
> convenient if jset/ODBSet allowed the option to use json/javascript encoding for
> boolean values; or at least had that as a format option for jset/ODBSet.  That
> way my javascript could look like
> 
> var mybool = true;
> URI_command =
> "?cmd=jset&odb=/Equipment/DCRC/Common/Hidden&format=json-nokeys&value=" + mybool;
> 
> instead of
> 
> var mybool = true;
> URI_command = ""
> if(mybool){
>   URI_command =
> "?cmd=jset&odb=/Equipment/DCRC/Common/Hidden&format=json-nokeys&value=y";
> else
>   URI_command =
> "?cmd=jset&odb=/Equipment/DCRC/Common/Hidden&format=json-nokeys&value=n";
> 
> 
> __________________________________________________________
> Cross-posting from bitbucket issue tracker:
> 
> https://bitbucket.org/tmidas/midas/issues/29/jset-odbset-using-true-false-for-booleans

> > MIDAS does not seem to be consistent (or at least convenient) with how it
> > handles booleans in AJAX functions.

The JSON-RPC functions have been merged into main midas and you can now use the new function mjsonrpc_db_paste(paths, values, id, 
callback, error_callback);

For example:

mjsonrpc_db_paste(["/foo","/bar","/baz"],[1,2,3]);

the target items should already exist (for this example, not in general).

All data is JSON encoded, success/failure is returned via callbacks.

K.O.

> > Could you give more info on your setup:
> > - CAMAC controller model
> Jorway 73A, we have three in hand and the problem doesn't depend on which controller
> we were using.

Dawei sent me a copy of his jorway73a.c scsi-camac driver. It is quite different from the
file in the MIDAS distribution. Dawei tells me that the file from the MIDAS distribution
does not compile. Stack traces from Dawei indicate a hang in this modified jorway73a.c
scsi-camac driver.

K.O.

> > > Could you give more info on your setup:
> > > - CAMAC controller model
> > Jorway 73A, we have three in hand and the problem doesn't depend on which controller
> > we were using.
> 
> Dawei sent me a copy of his jorway73a.c scsi-camac driver. It is quite different from the
> file in the MIDAS distribution. Dawei tells me that the file from the MIDAS distribution
> does not compile. Stack traces from Dawei indicate a hang in this modified jorway73a.c
> scsi-camac driver.
> 
> K.O.

I encountered too that the jorway73a.c cannot work for my SCM-301 CAMAC driver. The
"jorway73a.c" distributed with MIDAS seems to work with Jorway 73a reversion > 300. But my
module has the reversion number 203. :-( I hope you can paste the modified version here so
that I can try it if I have spare time.
Regards.