Dear Midas users, 

As promise, the first Midas seminar is happening.

Time    : July 15th 2015 from 12:15 to 16:00 PST.
Location: ISAC-II conference room at Triumf, Vancouver BC. Canada

The program is under construction, but it will consist of talks covering 
particular Midas implementation in different experiments such as SuperCDMS, DEAP, 
GRIFFIN, MEG-2.

Webcast information will be provided in early July, including link to the 
presentations.

If you're planning to attend this seminar remotely, please drop a quick note to 
me for a head count.

The Midas team is looking forward hearing from you.

Best Regards, Pierre-André Amaudruz

I am using the MSCB SCS2000 to monitor slow control variables (temperatures, voltages, etc). I am trying to 
get it set up at fermilab as a test stand in the MC1 building and was wondering if anyone has integrated 
Midas with a MSCB SCS2000 before. We have two systems at fermilab, one system that is currently running 
in the g-2 experimental hall, but running an out of date version of midas. The second test stand I am 
setting up is working with the current version of midas. I believe we will easily be able to figure out the 
external probes for temperatures and voltages just fine. But the MSCB SCS2000 box itself has 1 
temperature value, 1 current value, and 5 voltages internally that we also need to monitor. If I use the msc 
command I can read back the external values through the daughter cards I have installed on the SCS2000 
box but has no way of reading back the internal values that I need. I also have been looking through the 
MIDAS files trying to find a possible way to read these out to no avail.

If anyone has any ideas or has had previous work with the SCS2000 and knows how to read back the 
internal values please let me know. 

Thanks,

Michael McEvoy
NIU Graduate Student

> If anyone has any ideas or has had previous work with the SCS2000 and knows how to read back the 
> internal values please let me know. 

The current MIDAS distribution contains a file /midas/examples/slowcont/mscb_fe.c which contains example code of how to read some MSCB devices.

/Stefan

Dear Midas users,

For the upcoming "Midas Seminar" on the July 15th, you can find the necessary 
information here: https://indico.psi.ch/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=3793

The talks will be available for download prior the beginning of the seminar.


Cheers, PAA

Hello, I am new in the forum. We are running an experiment for a week with no
problems. Now we add a detector a we found an error. Even we come back to our
previous configuration the error continues appearing. Please, may someone help
us? You can find the error in the attachment. Thanks!

SIGSEGV is a segmentation fault. Most often it means some ODB parameter is out of bounds or there is 
an invalid memcpy somewhere in your code.

> Hello, I am new in the forum. We are running an experiment for a week with no
> problems. Now we add a detector a we found an error. Even we come back to our
> previous configuration the error continues appearing. Please, may someone help
> us? You can find the error in the attachment. Thanks!

> Hello, I am new in the forum. We are running an experiment for a week with no
> problems. Now we add a detector a we found an error. Even we come back to our
> previous configuration the error continues appearing. Please, may someone help
> us? You can find the error in the attachment. Thanks!

The error reported is SIGSEGV, which is a software fault (as opposed to a hardware fault like "printer is on fire" or "disk full").

Next step is to identify which program crashed and attach a debugger to the crashing executable or to the core dump.
You will use the debugger to generate the stack trace which will identify exactly the place where the program failed.

I recommend that one should always attach the stack trace to the problem reports on this forum. These stack traces are sometimes long and 
scary and it is a bit of an art to read them, so do not worry if you do not understand what they say.

If you use "gdb", I recommend that you post your full debugger session:

bash> gdb myprogram
gdb> run my command line arguments
*crash*
gdb> where
... stack trace
gdb> quit

(If you use threads, please generate a stack trace for each thread)

If the crash location is inside midas code, congratulations, you may have found a bug in midas.
If the crash location is in your code, you have some debugging to do.
If you do not understand what I am talking about (gdb? core dump?), please read "unix/linux software development for dummies" book first.

K.O.

After pulling the newest version of midas, our compilation would fail on
bk_create, with the error:

frontend.cpp:954: error: invalid conversion from ‘DWORD**’ to ‘void**’
frontend.cpp:954: error:   initializing argument 4 of ‘void bk_create(void*,
const char*, WORD, void**)’

I noticed a change to the function in midas.c that changes the type of pdata
from a pointer to a double pointer, and changes 

      *((void **) pdata) = pbk + 1;
to
      *pdata = pbk + 1;

The fix is simple. In each call to bk_create, I changed it to:

bk_create(pevent, bk_name, TID_DWORD, (void**)&pdata); 

I suggest updating the documentation. Also, why the change? Does it add some
improvement in efficiency?

> bk_create()
> frontend.cpp:954: error: invalid conversion from ‘DWORD**’ to ‘void**’

Yes, the original bk_create() prototype was wrong, implying a pointer to the data instead of pointer-to-the-
pointer-to-the-data.

The prototype was corrected recently (within the last 2 years?), but as an unfortunate side-effect, nazi C 
compilers refuse to automatically downgrade "xxx**" to "void**" (when downgrade of xxx* to void* is 
accepted) and a cast is now required.

K.O.

the midas forum elog is updated to latest version from Stefan - ELOG V3.1.1-b4d2a37 built from git sources. K.O.

Just in case anyone needs this in the future I am adding a comment about this issue. After a few months of working
with this solution we noticed that when using

request.open('GET', url, false);

on firefox it could cause the javascript to stop at that point, possibly due to a delayed response from the
server. A simple solution is to send an asynchronous requests

request.open('GET', url, true);

Zaher

> Thank you very much, this is exactly what I need and it works.
> 
> Zaher
> 
> > All functions in midas are controlled through special URLs. So the URL
> > 
> > http://<host:port>/?cmd=Start&value=10
> > 
> > will start run #10. Similarly with ?cmd=Stop. Now all you need is to set up a custom button, and use the 
> > OnClick="" JavaScript method to fire off an Ajax request with the above URL. 
> > 
> > To send an Ajax request, you can use the function XMLHttpRequestGeneric which ships as part of midas in the 
> > mhttpd.js file. Then the code would be
> > 
> > <input type="button" onclick="start()">
> > 
> > and in your JavaScript code:
> > 
> > ...
> > function start()
> > {
> >    var request = XMLHttpRequestGeneric();
> > 
> >    url = '?cmd=Start&value=10';
> >    request.open('GET', url, false);
> >    request.send(null);
> > }
> > ...
> > 
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Stefan

I have a problem with using analyzer offline.
I'm trying to do it this way:

[lkst@pklinux online]$ kill_daq.sh
[lkst@pklinux online]$ odbedit -c "load data/run00020.odb"
[ODBEdit,INFO] Reloading RPC hosts access control list via hotlink callback
[lkst@pklinux online]$ analyzer -i data/run00020.mid -o test20.root
Root server listening on port 9090...
Running analyzer offline. Stop with "!"
[Analyzer,INFO] Set run number 20 in ODB
analyzer: src/odb.c:6631: db_paste_node: Assertion `status == 1' failed.
Load ODB from run 20...Aborted
[lkst@pklinux online]$

I always get this "Assertion `status == 1' failed." error even
if I try it in the examples/experiment enclosed in MIDAS distribution.
After this try I can not run any midas program, even odbedit reports an error,
until I delete the ODB file in /dev/shm/ and load last ODB dump with odbedit.
What do I do wrong and how this can be fixed?

Good news, on the new experimental branch feature/jsonrpc, I have implemented all 3 program management functions - start program, 
stop program and "is running?" as JSON-RPC methods. On that branch, the midas "programs" page is done completely using 
javascript.

You can try this new code right now or you can wait until the branch is merged into main midas - I am still ironing some last minute kinks 
in JSON encoding of ODB. But all the programs management should work (and all previously existing stuff should work). Look in 
mhttpd.js for the mjsonrpc_start_program() & etc.

K.O.



> Just in case anyone needs this in the future I am adding a comment about this issue. After a few months of working
> with this solution we noticed that when using
> 
> request.open('GET', url, false);
> 
> on firefox it could cause the javascript to stop at that point, possibly due to a delayed response from the
> server. A simple solution is to send an asynchronous requests
> 
> request.open('GET', url, true);
> 
> Zaher
> 
> > Thank you very much, this is exactly what I need and it works.
> > 
> > Zaher
> > 
> > > All functions in midas are controlled through special URLs. So the URL
> > > 
> > > http://<host:port>/?cmd=Start&value=10
> > > 
> > > will start run #10. Similarly with ?cmd=Stop. Now all you need is to set up a custom button, and use the 
> > > OnClick="" JavaScript method to fire off an Ajax request with the above URL. 
> > > 
> > > To send an Ajax request, you can use the function XMLHttpRequestGeneric which ships as part of midas in the 
> > > mhttpd.js file. Then the code would be
> > > 
> > > <input type="button" onclick="start()">
> > > 
> > > and in your JavaScript code:
> > > 
> > > ...
> > > function start()
> > > {
> > >    var request = XMLHttpRequestGeneric();
> > > 
> > >    url = '?cmd=Start&value=10';
> > >    request.open('GET', url, false);
> > >    request.send(null);
> > > }
> > > ...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > Stefan

> I have a problem with using analyzer offline.
...
> [Analyzer,INFO] Set run number 20 in ODB
> analyzer: src/odb.c:6631: db_paste_node: Assertion `status == 1' failed.

The problem has been traced to unexpected interaction between code in mana.c and 
aggressive error checking in the odb xml decoder (used to load odb.xml dump from the midas 
data file into odb).

We are working on a solution.

K.O.

We're using the lazylogger to trigger a script that copies files, and the lag 
between a completed file appearing and the lazylogger trigger occasionally feels 
uncomfortably long.  It's not too bad - at most, around five or so minutes.  But 
of course it's tough to be patient when you're waiting to look at data.

The settings for our lazylogger specify a 'Stay behind' of zero and a 'Period' of 
zero.

Is there a way to make the lazylogger less lazy?  What determines the time 
between the appearance of a file and the lazylogger trigger?

I'm trying to set up an experiment with 2 frontends for the first time.  When I
start the remote frontend I get the following errors:

first time (odd attempt):

[MCS_Frontend_203,ERROR] [midas.c:9678:rpc_server_connect,ERROR] mserver
subprocess could not be started (check path)
[MCS_Frontend_203,ERROR] [mfe.c:2696:mainFE,ERROR] Cannot connect to experiment
'Default' on host 'ucntau-daq.lanl.gov', status 503

second time (even attempt):

MCS6A_frontend: src/midas.c:9085: rpc_client_dispatch: Assertion `n ==
sizeof(NET_COMMAND_HEADER) + 4 * sizeof(INT)' failed.

On the local host I'm running : mlogger, a frontend, an analzer, mhttp, and
mserver.  I followed the instructions for adding the remote computer to the
RPC_ALLOWED list and I do see that the remote frontend was able to edit the
local odb equipment list.  At present I'm not running an event builder I just
wanted to get the frontends connected to start.  Do I need to have the mserver
running on both computers?  Any suggestions on where to start troubleshooting this?

Thanks 

Not clear on what you are doing, so here is the brief description:

- you have two machines - say "midas" and "frontend"
- you run mttpd, mlogger, etc on "midas"
- you want to run some frontend on "frontend"

Do this:
- on "midas", open a new terminal, run "mserver -p 7071"
- on "frontend", open a new terminal, run "odbedit -h midas:7071"

If you did follow all the online instruction correctly, at this point, your odbedit on "frontend" would have 
connected and all commands would work same as if run locally on "midas".

If I understand you correctly, you got this far.

Next do this:
- on "frontend", open a new terminal, run "your_frontend.exe -h midas:7071"

If all is good, the frontend would start, would connect to midas, you would see
it in odbedit "scl" and on the midas status page and you would be able to stop
it from the midas "programs" page. (this last bit is important).

I guess this is where things go wrong and you do not get anything working.

Do this:
a) cut and paste all the output from the terminal window where you are running the mserver (including the 
command you used to start the mserver)
b) cut and paste all the output from the terminal window where you are starting the frontemd (again, 
including the command you used to start the frontend)
c) cut  and paste the contents of midas.log (in the experiment directory) from the time you started the 
mserver until the very end.

Paste all this as reply to this message or email it to me at olchansk@triumf.ca

With this additional information we should be able to get you going (and hopefully improve the 
documentation so the next person does not run into the same problem - whatever the problem turns out to 
be).

K.O.

> I'm trying to set up an experiment with 2 frontends for the first time.  When I
> start the remote frontend I get the following errors:
> 
> first time (odd attempt):
> 
> [MCS_Frontend_203,ERROR] [midas.c:9678:rpc_server_connect,ERROR] mserver
> subprocess could not be started (check path)
> [MCS_Frontend_203,ERROR] [mfe.c:2696:mainFE,ERROR] Cannot connect to experiment
> 'Default' on host 'ucntau-daq.lanl.gov', status 503
> 
> second time (even attempt):
> 
> MCS6A_frontend: src/midas.c:9085: rpc_client_dispatch: Assertion `n ==
> sizeof(NET_COMMAND_HEADER) + 4 * sizeof(INT)' failed.
> 
> On the local host I'm running : mlogger, a frontend, an analzer, mhttp, and
> mserver.  I followed the instructions for adding the remote computer to the
> RPC_ALLOWED list and I do see that the remote frontend was able to edit the
> local odb equipment list.  At present I'm not running an event builder I just
> wanted to get the frontends connected to start.  Do I need to have the mserver
> running on both computers?  Any suggestions on where to start troubleshooting this?
> 
> Thanks 

Dear all,

I'm using MIDAS system and CAEN V1721 to digitize the waveform from photomultipliers ( 
and the link bridge to PC is V2718 ). I use BLTRead to read data of the digitizer, but 
I found that if the event counting rate is high ( about 100KB/s ), the communication 
of V1721 and PC would be suspended randomly, and I get an error code of -2. Could you 
give me some suggestion? Thanks a lot.

> Dear all,
> 
> I'm using MIDAS system and CAEN V1721 to digitize the waveform from photomultipliers ( 
> and the link bridge to PC is V2718 ). I use BLTRead to read data of the digitizer, but 
> I found that if the event counting rate is high ( about 100KB/s ), the communication 
> of V1721 and PC would be suspended randomly, and I get an error code of -2. Could you 
> give me some suggestion? Thanks a lot.

Hi, 

Can you provide the BLTread call fragment code and the PC /var/log/messages at the time of 
the hang up.
What is needed to restart the daq?

PAA