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  627   03 Sep 2009 Stefan RittSuggestionCould not create strings other than 32 characters with odbedit -c "..." command
> Hi,
> I am writing shell scripts to create some tree structure in an ODB. When 
> creating an array of strings, the default length of each string element is 32 
> characters. If odbedit is used interactively to create the array of strings, 
> the user is prompted to enter a different length if desired. But if the 
> command odbedit is called from a shell script, I did not succeed in passing 
> the argument to get a different length.
> I tried:
> odbedit -c "create STRING Test[8][40]"
> Or:
> odbedit -c "create STRING Test[8] 40"
> Or:
> odbedit -c "create STRING Test[8] \n 40"
> etc. all produce an array of 8 strings with 32 characters each.
> I haven't tried all possible syntaxes, but I suspect the length argument is 
> dropped. If it has not been fixed in a later release than the one I am using, 
> could this problem be looked at?

Ok, I added a command

odbedit -c "create STRING Test[8][40]"

which works now. Please update to SVN revision 4555 of odbedit.c

- Stefan
  626   03 Sep 2009 Stefan RittForumWhy should we use "INLINE" here?

Exaos Lee wrote:
There are many "INLINE" definitions in "include/*.h". Both GNU C and C99 permit using inline functions. I still wonder why. Smile


The INLINE statements are a relict from times where a subroutine call was in the order of a few microseconds. This was when you probably were pretty young, and we had MS DOS PCs running at 66 MHz and 640 kB (not MB!) of memory. At that time, inlining the CAMAC functions gave a 50% speedup, believe it or not! I guess now this is completely obsolete, plus modern compilers can do inlining automatically if they realize that there is a benefit. So we should remove all the inline business. We plan some major rework later in September, so I will include that on the todo list there.

- Stefan
  625   03 Sep 2009 Stefan RittForumTimeout during run transition
> Dear All,
> 
> I'm using SL5 and MIDAS rev 4528. Occasionally, when I stop a run in odbedit, 
> a timeout would occur: 
> [midas.c:9496:rpc_client_call,ERROR] rpc timeout after 121 sec, routine 
> = "rc_transition", host = "computerB", connection closed
> Error: Unknown error 504 from client 'Frontend' on host computerB
> 
> This error seems to be random without any reason or pattern. After this error 
> occurs, I cannot start or stop any run. Sometime restarting MIDAS can bring 
> the system working again, but sometime not.
> 
> Another transition timeout occurs after I change any ODB value using the web 
> interface:
> [midas.c:8291:rpc_client_connect,ERROR] timeout on receive remote computer 
> info: 
> [midas.c:3642:cm_transition,ERROR] cannot connect to client "Frontend" on host 
> computerB, port 36255, status 503
> Error: Cannot connect to client 'Frontend'
> 
> This error is reproducible: start run -> change ODB value within webpage -> 
> stop run -> timeout!

A few hints for debugging:

- do the run stop via odbedit and the "-v" flag, like

[local:Online:R]/> stop -v

then you see which computer is contacted when.

- Then put some debugging code into your front-end end_of_run() routine at the 
beginning and the end of that routine, so you see when it's executed and how long 
this takes. If you do lots of things in your EOR routine, this could maybe cause a 
timeout.

- Then make sure that cm_yield() in mfe.c is called periodically by putting some 
debugging code there. This function checks for any network message, such as the 
stop command from odbedit. If you trigger event readout has an endless loop for 
example, cm_yield() will never be called and any transition will timeout.

- Make sure that not 100% CPU is used on your frontend. Some OSes have problems 
handling incoming network connections if the CPU is completely used of if 
input/output operations are too heavy.

- Stefan
  624   01 Sep 2009 Jimmy NgaiForumTimeout during run transition
Dear All,

I'm using SL5 and MIDAS rev 4528. Occasionally, when I stop a run in odbedit, 
a timeout would occur: 
[midas.c:9496:rpc_client_call,ERROR] rpc timeout after 121 sec, routine 
= "rc_transition", host = "computerB", connection closed
Error: Unknown error 504 from client 'Frontend' on host computerB

This error seems to be random without any reason or pattern. After this error 
occurs, I cannot start or stop any run. Sometime restarting MIDAS can bring 
the system working again, but sometime not.

Another transition timeout occurs after I change any ODB value using the web 
interface:
[midas.c:8291:rpc_client_connect,ERROR] timeout on receive remote computer 
info: 
[midas.c:3642:cm_transition,ERROR] cannot connect to client "Frontend" on host 
computerB, port 36255, status 503
Error: Cannot connect to client 'Frontend'

This error is reproducible: start run -> change ODB value within webpage -> 
stop run -> timeout!

Any idea?

Thanks,
Jimmy
  623   31 Aug 2009 Exaos LeeForumWhy should we use "INLINE" here?
There are many "INLINE" definitions in "include/*.h". Both GNU C and C99 permit using inline functions. I still wonder why. Smile
  622   31 Aug 2009 Exaos LeeForumLink error of "mcnaf"
I repeated the link error again. I also found the almost all sources located in "driver/camac/" using "cam_op()" but not "camop()". Please see the grep result below:
drivers/camac/camaclx.c:760:INLINE void cam_op()
drivers/camac/camacnul.c:200:INLINE void cam_op()
drivers/camac/camacrpc.c:563:void cam_op()
drivers/camac/cc7700pci.c:744:INLINE void cam_op()
drivers/camac/ces2117.c:227:void cam_op()
drivers/camac/ces8210.c:553:void cam_op(void)
drivers/camac/ces8210.c:576:    cam_op();
drivers/camac/ces8210.c:625:    cam_op();
drivers/camac/dsp004.c:692:void cam_op()
drivers/camac/hyt1331.c:1125:INLINE void cam_op()
drivers/camac/jorway73a.c:563:INLINE void cam_op()
drivers/camac/kcs2926.c:618:INLINE void cam_op()
drivers/camac/kcs2927.c:677:INLINE void cam_op()
drivers/camac/wecc32.c:554:INLINE void cam_op()

I also found why the default Makefile can pass away this problem. I found the "make" using the following command to compile the "mcnaf":
cc -g -O3 -Wall -Wuninitialized -Iinclude -Idrivers -I../mxml -Llinux/lib -DINCLUDE_FTPLIB   -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -DHAVE_MYSQL -I/usr/include/mysql -DHAVE_ODBC -DHAVE_ZLIB -DOS_LINUX -fPIC -Wno-unused-function -o linux/bin/mcnaf utils/mcnaf.c drivers/camac/camacrpc.c linux/lib/libmidas.a -lutil -lpthread -lodbc -lz
I try to re-implement the link error again. So I wrote some test code.

1. anullf.h
#ifndef _ANULLF_H_
#define _ANULLF_H_ 1

#define EXTERNAL extern

#if defined( _MSC_VER )
#define INLINE __inline
#elif defined(__GNUC__)
#define INLINE __inline__
#else
#define INLINE
#endif
/* make functions under WinNT dll exportable */
#if defined(_MSC_VER) && defined(MIDAS_DLL)
#define EXPRT __declspec(dllexport)
#else
#define EXPRT
#endif

EXTERNAL INLINE void EXPRT camop() {  };

#endif

2. ma_1.c
#include "anullf.h"

void cam_op() {}

3. ma.c
#include "anullf.h"
#include <stdio.h>

int main(int argc, char** argv)
{
  camop();
}

Then, only compiling as below can pass:
$ gcc -O -o ma ma_1.c ma.c
If you remove the option "-O", compiling immediately fails in a link error. Whether you compile into objects then link them or just compile them together, you can pass with option "-O" or the similar options. It is because the compile could solve linking to a dummy function automatically with option "-O".

Anyway, we should fix this no matter changing the "mcstd.h" or codes located in "driver/camac/".
  621   29 Aug 2009 Exaos LeeForumAt last, I'm here again!
I always got a 503 server error while I tried to connect this log book the latest 
weeks. I don't know why. I hope it is not due to the network censorship because 
of the coming National Day of China. Anyway, good luck to me when I want to paste 
something here.
  620   21 Aug 2009 Konstantin OlchanskiForumLink error of "mcnaf"
> If you compile each source into an object, you may encounter a link error ...

Also camac rpc did not work at all last time we tried to use it at triumf, maybe 4 month ago in the Dragon 
experiment (upgrade from older version of midas). Never got around to trace down why. YMMV.

K.O.
  619   21 Aug 2009 Exaos LeeForumLink error of "mcnaf"
The "utils/mcnaf.c" uses "camop()",
180:         printf("camop\n");
181:         camop();
But "drivers/camac/camacrpc.c" provides "cam_op()":
void cam_op()
{
}

If you compile each source into an object, you may encounter a link error as
mcnaf.c:(.text+0x3b1): undefined reference to `camop'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
The "mcstd.h" provides "camop". So, we need to change "camacrpc.c" to match the definition and fix the link error.
  618   18 Aug 2009 Denis CalvetSuggestionCould not create strings other than 32 characters with odbedit -c "..." command
Hi,
I am writing shell scripts to create some tree structure in an ODB. When 
creating an array of strings, the default length of each string element is 32 
characters. If odbedit is used interactively to create the array of strings, 
the user is prompted to enter a different length if desired. But if the 
command odbedit is called from a shell script, I did not succeed in passing 
the argument to get a different length.
I tried:
odbedit -c "create STRING Test[8][40]"
Or:
odbedit -c "create STRING Test[8] 40"
Or:
odbedit -c "create STRING Test[8] \n 40"
etc. all produce an array of 8 strings with 32 characters each.
I haven't tried all possible syntaxes, but I suspect the length argument is 
dropped. If it has not been fixed in a later release than the one I am using, 
could this problem be looked at?
Thanks,
Denis.
  
  617   10 Aug 2009 Konstantin OlchanskiInfomisc changes from PIENU and T2K
> FYI - committed the last changes from TRIUMF DAQ systems for PIENU and T2K/ND280 FGD and TPC 
> tests:
> svn rev 4541

Also:

- add traps to event buffer code to catch event buffer (shared memory) corruption observed in PIENU
- dynamically allocate some RPC network data buffers to permit better communication between MIDAS clients built with different values of 
MAX_EVENT_SIZE (in T2K/ND280 the default 4 Mbytes is too small for some users, while other users use the default size - this change permits all 
these programs to talk to each other).

K.O.
  616   10 Aug 2009 Konstantin OlchanskiInfomisc changes from PIENU and T2K
FYI - committed the last changes from TRIUMF DAQ systems for PIENU and T2K/ND280 FGD and TPC 
tests:

- mhttpd: add <odb xxx format="%d">xxx</odb>, similar to AJAX ODBget() method
- alarm.c: if alarm stops the run, log a message (sometimes it is hard to tell "why did this run stop?!?") 
use DETACH transition (was ASYNC - does not follow requested transition sequencing, now calls 
mtransition helper). Also verified that alarm handler always runs on the main computer - for remote 
clients, alarms are processed inside the corresponding mserver process.
- midas.c: event buffer fixes:
-- mserver 100% cpu busy loop if event buffer is full
-- consolidate event buffer cleanup into one routine. do things similar to odb cleanup - check for client 
pid, etc.
-- do not kill clients that have the watchdog timeout set to zero.

svn rev 4541
K.O.
  615   04 Aug 2009 Exaos LeeForumThe contents of the attachment
As requested from K.O., I paste the "00README.txt" as the following:
#-*- mode: outline -*-
#-*- encoding: utf-8 -*-
#AUTHOR: Exaos Lee <Exaos DOT Lee AT gmail DOT com>

* Directories
  +--> 00README.txt : This file
  |
  +--> bustester : Directory contains utilities for VME bus testing
  |
  +--> modules   : APIs to handle VME modules
  |
  +--> pyutil    : Uitilies in Python, including PyMVME
  |
  +--> sis3100   : Provide lib_sis3100mvme.a/so using with "mvmestd.h"

* Utilities in Python

** PyMVME module

   The module "PyMVME" provides the following stuff:
      a. class StdVME
      	 -- contains standard VME informations.
      b. class MVME_INTERFACE
      	 -- the C structure MVME_INTERFACE wrapped in Python
      c. dict MVME_STATUS
      	 -- the return information defined in "mvmestd.h"
      d. the related useful aliases from "mvmestd.h"
      	 -- including "mvme_addr_t", "mvme_locaddr_t", "mvme_size_t"
      e. class MvmeDev
      	 -- the major class which provides methods to access VME bus.

   You may find examples of how to use module "PyMVME" from "find_caen.py" or
   scripts in dir "test". All of the examples are using "lib_sis3100mvme.so".
   You may find information later in this introduction.

** find_caen.py

   The script to find VME modules from CAEN. Now, it is still in test status
   and can only find ADCs, TDCs or QDCs.

* SIS3100 library to be used togather with "mvmestd.h"

  The directory "sis3100" contains sources to build libraries as the following:
  a. lib_sis3100.a     -- APIs declared in "sis3100_vme_calls.h"
  b. lib_sis3100mvme.a -- APIs declared in "mvmestd.h". It also contains the
     		       	  same APIs from lib_sis3100.a

  If you want to use shared libraries, especially when you are using utilities
  wrote in Python, you may rebuild the libraries as the following:

    $ cd sis3100
    $ make shared

* APIs to handle VME modules

** vadc_caen.h/c

   Provides APIs to handle ADC-type modules from CAEN, including:
      a. ADCs --- V785, V785N
      b. TDCs --- V775, V775N
      c. QDCs --- V792, V792N

* VME bus testers

  Still under development.


  614   04 Aug 2009 Exaos LeeForumAbout python interface
Coding in Python is faster than in C (but running slower). So, some python interfaces are useful for testing purpose. I hope you may like the PyMVME module for VME bus testing.
  613   04 Aug 2009 Exaos LeeForumScripts to handle MIDAS sessions
Hi, all again

I have some scripts in "bash" and "Python" to handle MIDAS sessions. Please see the attached utils4midas.zip. I didn't write instructions in detail of how to use them. But I think they are very simple. You may find how to use them by reading the codes and example files.

Best wishes.

Exaos Lee
Attachment 1: utils4midas.zip
  612   04 Aug 2009 Exaos LeeForumVME-related codes contribution
Hi, all

I have some codes while using MIDAS. I upload them here. They are tested with
SIS3100. I haven't other VME controllers, so I don't know whether they work with
other controllers. I just hope that they are helpful. You may find information
from the file "00README.txt" in the package vme4midas.zip. My English is limited, I just hope
that you may catch my ideas. Smile

All my best.

Exaos Lee
Attachment 1: vme4midas.zip
  611   03 Aug 2009 Konstantin OlchanskiForumHow to distinguish the status and value returned from "mvme_read_value(...)"
> uint32_t mvme_read_value(MVME_INTERFACE * vme, mvme_addr_t vme_addr);
> Question: How to distinguish the status and value returned?

On VME interfaces using the Universe and tsi148 PCI-VME bridges, your question has no meaning.

The VME address space is directly mapped into the PCI address space, then mmap()ed into your 
program address space. Internally mvme_read_value() is "return *(uint32_t*)(mmap_base + vme_addr);" 
and there is no such thing as "status".

Physically on the VME bus, for single-word VME cycles (mvme_read_value), there are only 2 error 
conditions, an AS or a DS timeout, and these bridges return the bit pattern 0xFFFFFFFF for either error, 
the same as the traditional VME bus always worked (i.e. before PCI, before ISA, back when the VME bus 
*was* the main CPU-memory-IO bus).

So the answer to your question is "yes". If mvme_read_value() returned 0xFFFFFFFF, there was a VME 
bus timeout because the board you are trying to address a) is not installed, b) was unplugged, c) does 
not decode the address you tried to access (maybe you used the wrong AM code or the wrong data 
width).

With Universe and tsi148 PCI-VME bridges, the mvme_read() call runs the DMA interface that can issue 
block transfer cycles on the VME bus. These DMA interfaces have interesting error handling, but 
basically, they only tell you the estimated VME address at which the AS or DS timeout or BERR has 
occurred. For sane VME boards, DMA errors mean very basic breakage of the VME crate and VME board.

With non-directly attached VME interfaces, i.e. the SIS3100, you can also have communication errors. I 
do not know how those are reported by the SIS3100 Linux drivers, and I do not know how the MIDAS 
driver reports them. But I do know that if you see those errors, your interface is very broken and VME 
bus errors are the least of your worries.

P.S. There also exist PCI bus errors, they also return the bit pattern 0xFFFFFFFF and mean basic 
breakage inside your computer. PCI-PCI and PCI-host bridges have special registers you can read to 
find out the exact cause of the error ("your computer is broken").

K.O.
  610   03 Aug 2009 Stefan RittForumHow to distinguish the status and value returned from "mvme_read_value(...)"

Exaos Lee wrote:
The definition of mvme_read_value is as the following:
unsigned int EXPRT mvme_read_value(MVME_INTERFACE * vme, mvme_addr_t vme_addr);

Read single data from VME bus. Useful for register access. See example in
mvme_open()

Parameters:
    	*vme 	  VME structure
    	vme_addr  source address (VME location).

Returns:
    MVME_SUCCESS


Question: How to distinguish the status and value returned? Should the definition be something like
int EXPRT mvme_read_value(MVME_INTERFACE *mvme, mvme_addr_t vme_addr, unsigned int *var);


This function is a shortcut when you want something like
  printf("%d\n", mvme_read_value(...)); 

and you know that the status is ok. Without this function, you would need to define a variable
  unsigned long d;
  mvme_read_value(..., &d);
  printf("%d\n", d);

so the above function is just a handy shortcut. If you want to see the status however, you can call the "normal" function mvme_read:
  status = mvme_read(..., &d, adr, 4); 
  609   03 Aug 2009 Exaos LeeForumHow to distinguish the status and value returned from "mvme_read_value(...)"
The definition of mvme_read_value is as the following:
unsigned int EXPRT mvme_read_value(MVME_INTERFACE * vme, mvme_addr_t vme_addr);

Read single data from VME bus. Useful for register access. See example in
mvme_open()

Parameters:
    	*vme 	  VME structure
    	vme_addr  source address (VME location).

Returns:
    MVME_SUCCESS


Question: How to distinguish the status and value returned? Should the definition be something like
int EXPRT mvme_read_value(MVME_INTERFACE *mvme, mvme_addr_t vme_addr, unsigned int *var);
  608   18 Jul 2009 Exaos LeeForumjorway73a.c, Data taking hangs in the middle of run
> > > Could you give more info on your setup:
> > > - CAMAC controller model
> > Jorway 73A, we have three in hand and the problem doesn't depend on which controller
> > we were using.
> 
> Dawei sent me a copy of his jorway73a.c scsi-camac driver. It is quite different from the
> file in the MIDAS distribution. Dawei tells me that the file from the MIDAS distribution
> does not compile. Stack traces from Dawei indicate a hang in this modified jorway73a.c
> scsi-camac driver.
> 
> K.O.

I encountered too that the jorway73a.c cannot work for my SCM-301 CAMAC driver. The
"jorway73a.c" distributed with MIDAS seems to work with Jorway 73a reversion > 300. But my
module has the reversion number 203. :-( I hope you can paste the modified version here so
that I can try it if I have spare time.
Regards.
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