> > Revision: r5286 
> > Platform: Debian Linux 6.0.5 AMD64, with packages from squeeze-backports 
> > Problem:
> > After building and installation, using the script 'start_daq.sh' to start
> > 'sampleexpt'. Everything seems fine. But I cannot start a run through web. Using
> > 'odbedit' and 'mtransition' to start/stop a run works fine. So, what may cause
> > such a problem?
> 
> Well, it's mhttpd who cannot start the run, not you. So what happens when you press
> the "start run" button? Any errors in midas.log or in midas messages? Is mtransition
> in your PATH?
> 
> K.O.

I found the problem only appears when I run mhttpd in scripts, whether bash or python.
And I'm quite sure that the MIDAS environments (e.g. PATH, MIDAS_EXPTAB, MIDASSYS, etc.)
are set in such scripts. If I start mhttpd in an xterm with or without "-D", it works
fine. So, what's the difference between invoking mhttpd directly and through a script?

> Well, it's mhttpd who cannot start the run, not you. So what happens when you press
> the "start run" button? Any errors in midas.log or in midas messages? Is mtransition
> in your PATH?
After pressing "start run", there is a message displayed: "Run start requested". There
is no error in midas.log. And mtransition is actually in my PATH. I even looked into
"mhttpd.cxx" and found where "cm_transition" is called for starting a run. I have no
clue to grasp the reason.

The HTTPS SSL certificate on ladd00.triumf.ca has been updated. Same as the old
certificate, the new one is self-signed and your web browser may complain about
that and ask you to "save a security exception".

When you save the new certificate, you can verify that you are connected to the
real ladd00.triumf.ca by comparing the "SHA1 fingerprint" reported by your web
browser to the one given below (as reported by "svn update"):

Certificate information:
 - Hostname: ladd00.triumf.ca
 - Valid: from Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:31:51 GMT until Thu, 13 Jun 2013 22:31:51 GMT
 - Issuer: DAQ, TRIUMF, Vancouver, BC, CA
 - Fingerprint: 82:95:78:cb:78:d3:93:1d:d4:c8:e8:1a:64:0f:62:04:2d:0e:c3:4a

K.O.

> Revision: r5286 
> Platform: Debian Linux 6.0.5 AMD64, with packages from squeeze-backports 
> Problem:
> After building and installation, using the script 'start_daq.sh' to start
> 'sampleexpt'. Everything seems fine. But I cannot start a run through web. Using
> 'odbedit' and 'mtransition' to start/stop a run works fine. So, what may cause
> such a problem?

Well, it's mhttpd who cannot start the run, not you. So what happens when you press
the "start run" button? Any errors in midas.log or in midas messages? Is mtransition
in your PATH?

K.O.

Revision: r5286 
Platform: Debian Linux 6.0.5 AMD64, with packages from squeeze-backports 
Problem:
After building and installation, using the script 'start_daq.sh' to start
'sampleexpt'. Everything seems fine. But I cannot start a run through web. Using
'odbedit' and 'mtransition' to start/stop a run works fine. So, what may cause
such a problem?

> > > In midas.c, ...
> > >
> > > 1) _net_send_buffer is not set to NULL when declared.
> 
> Ah,okay. I was not aware of this feature of global variables.
> 

RTFM K&R "The C programming language". 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_C_Programming_Language

>  
> > > 2) cm_disconect_experiment() calls free(_net_send_buffer) but does not set 
> its value to NULL.
>

Confirmed. Sorry for confusion in my previous message. Set the pointer to NULL after free() is good practice.

But note that calling cm_connect and cm_disconnect multiple times is unusual use of MIDAS and you will most 
likely find more breakage.

K.O.

> > In midas.c, ...
> >
> > 1) _net_send_buffer is not set to NULL when declared.
> 
> _net_send_buffer is a global variable. All global variables are automatically 
initialized to zero before the program 
> starts.
> 
> static char*x; // = NULL; is redundant
> char*y=realloc(x, 100);  // x is NULL, usage is correct
>

Ah,okay. I was not aware of this feature of global variables.

 
> > 2) cm_disconect_experiment() calls free(_net_send_buffer) but does not set 
its 
> > value to NULL.
> 
> My copy of midas.c (svn rev 5256) sets _net_send_buffer to NULL:
> 
>    if (_net_send_buffer_size > 0) { 
>       M_FREE(_net_send_buffer); 
>       _net_send_buffer_size = 0; 
>    } 
>  
> What version of midas do you have? (svn info .)
> 
> K.O.

I have version 5256 also (matches what you posted), but I only see 
_net_send_buffer_size being set to 0, not _net_send_buffer itself. In midas.h, 
M_FREE(x) only expands to free(x) if _MEM_DBG is not defined.

> In midas.c, ...
>
> 1) _net_send_buffer is not set to NULL when declared.

_net_send_buffer is a global variable. All global variables are automatically initialized to zero before the program 
starts.

static char*x; // = NULL; is redundant
char*y=realloc(x, 100);  // x is NULL, usage is correct

> 2) cm_disconect_experiment() calls free(_net_send_buffer) but does not set its 
> value to NULL.

My copy of midas.c (svn rev 5256) sets _net_send_buffer to NULL:

   if (_net_send_buffer_size > 0) { 
      M_FREE(_net_send_buffer); 
      _net_send_buffer_size = 0; 
   } 
 
What version of midas do you have? (svn info .)

K.O.

In midas.c, I noticed that memory is only allocated to the global buffer 
_net_send_buffer by calling realloc() from within the function 
resize_net_send_buffer() (at least this was the only place I could find 
allocation to _net_send_buffer happening). This can cause problems for a couple 
of reasons:

1) _net_send_buffer is not set to NULL when declared. To my understanding, this 
makes the first call to realloc(_net_send_buffer, /*size*/) undefined. When 
passed a pointer that has not previously been allocated, realloc() acts like 
malloc() only if the pointer equal to NULL. Otherwise, the behavior is undefined 
and usually causes a crash.

2) cm_disconect_experiment() calls free(_net_send_buffer) but does not set its 
value to NULL. Thus if a client tries to include more than one 
connect...disconnect cycle within an application, there is undefined behavior 
the next time realloc(_net_send_buffer, ...) gets called.

I think that any potential allocation issues involving _net_send_buffer could be 
solved by:

1) Initializing _net_send_buffer to NULL.

2) In cm_disconnect_experiment(), changing
>   M_FREE(_net_send_buffer); 
to 
>   M_FREE(_net_send_buffer);
>   _net_send_buffer = NULL;

Stefan's fix is incomplete - the "gzFile" cast is needed for all calls to zlib, not just those that some version 
of GCC happens to complain about. Fixed.
svn rev 5286.

BTW, I read the midas elog via email and if you post html or elcode messages, I receive complete 
gibberish. For prompt service, please select message type "plain". (yes, you cannot use fancy colours and 
blinking text, but better than me not reading your stuff at all).

BTW2, for easier reading, please include error messages as plain text in your message. As opposed to 
compressed attachements.

K.O.

src/mlogger.cxx: In function ‘INT midas_flush_buffer(LOG_CHN*)’:
src/mlogger.cxx:1011:54: error: invalid conversion from ‘void*’ to ‘gzFile’ [-fpermissive]
In file included from src/mlogger.cxx:33:0:
/usr/include/zlib.h:1318:21: error:   initializing argument 1 of ‘int gzwrite(gzFile, voidpc, unsigned int)’ [-fpermissive]
src/mlogger.cxx: In function ‘INT midas_log_open(LOG_CHN*, INT)’:
src/mlogger.cxx:1200:79: error: invalid conversion from ‘void*’ to ‘gzFile’ [-fpermissive]
In file included from src/mlogger.cxx:33:0:

> Anyhow, if anybody can suggest such an advanced locking library it would be great. Will save me the 
> effort of writing one.

Hi Konstantin,

yes there is a good way, which I used during development of the buffer manager function. Put in each sm_xxx function a cm_msg(M_DEBUG, ...) to 
generate a debug system message. They go only into the SYSMSG ring buffer and thus are light weight and don't influence the timing much. You can 
keep odbedit open to see these messages, but there is also another way. You can write a little program which dumps the whole SYSMSG buffer, which 
you can call when the lock happens. You then look "backwards" in time and get all messages stored there, depending of the size of the SYSMSG buffer of 
course. Of course this only works if the lock does not happen on the SYSMSB buffer itself. In that case you have to produce M_LOG messages which are 
written to the logging file. This will influence the timing slightly (the file might grow rapidly) but you are independent of semaphores.

The interesting thing is that in the MEG experiment (9 Front-ends, Event Builder, Logger, Lazylogger, ....) we run for months without any lock up. So I 
might suspect it's caused in your case from a program only you are using.

Best regards,
Stefan

Hi there! In the T2K/ND280 experiment in Japan, we keep having problems with MIDAS locking (probably 
of ODB). The symptoms are: some program reports a timeout waiting for the ODB lock, then all programs 
eventually die with this same error. Complete system meltdown. This does not look like the deadlock 
between locks for ODB, cm_msg and the data buffers that I looked into last year. It looks more like 
somebody locks ODB, dies and the Linux kernel fails to unlock the lock (via the SYSV "sem undo" 
function). But it is hard to confirm, hence this message:

The implementation of semaphores in MIDAS (used for locking ODB and the shared memory data buffers) 
uses the straight SYSV semaphore API - which lacks basic debugging features - there is no tracking of 
who locked what when, so if anything at all goes wrong at all, i.e. we are confronted with a timeout 
waiting for the ODB lock, the only corrective action possible is to kill all MIDAS clients and tell the user to 
start from scratch. There is no additional information available from the SYSV semaphore API to identify 
which MIDAS program caused the fault.

The POSIX semaphore API is even worse - no debugging features are available, *and* if a program dies 
while holding a lock, the lock stays locked forever (everybody else will wait forever or see a semaphore 
timeout, and then what?).

So I am looking for an "advanced semaphore library" to use in MIDAS. In addition to the boring functions 
of reliable locking and unlocking, it should support:
- wait with timeout
- remember who is holding the lock
- detect that the process holding the lock is dead and take corrective action (automatic unlock as done by 
SYSV semaphores, call back to user code where we can cleanup and unlock ourselves, etc)
- maybe permit recursive locking (not really required as ODB locks are already made recursive "by hand")
- maybe remember some of the locking history (so we can dump it into a log file when we detect a 
deadlock or other lock malfunction).

Quick google search only find sundry wrappers for SYSV and POSIX semaphores. How they deal with the 
problem of processes locking the semaphore and dying remains a mystery to me (other than telling users 
to remove the Ctrl-C button from their keyboard). BTW, we have seen this problem with several 
commercial applications that use SYSV semaphores but forget to enable the SEM_UNDO function).

Anyhow, if anybody can suggest such an advanced locking library it would be great. Will save me the 
effort of writing one.

K.O.

Hello,

I'm co-organizing the upcoming Real Time Conference, which covers also the field of data acquisition, so it might be interesting for people working 
with MIDAS. If you have something to report, you could also consider to send an abstract to this conference.  It will be nicely located in Berkeley, 
California. We plan excursions to San Francisco and to Napa Valley.

Best regards,
Stefan Ritt

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> > In midas.c, the bk_delete function removes a bank by decrementing the total
> > event size and then copying the remaining banks into the location of the first
> > using memcpy from string.h.
> 
> 
> I confirm the documented difference between memcpy() and memmove() and I confirm the 
> questionable use of memcpy() in bk_delete(). I think it should be memmove(). I made it so in my copy 
> of midas, so this change will not be lost.
> 
> But I am not sure how to test it - I do not think I ever used bk_delete(). I will probably ponder upon 
> this and do a blind commit.
> 
> 
> K.O.

It cannot hurt to use memmove(), so please go ahead to commit the changes.

- Stefan

> In midas.c, the bk_delete function removes a bank by decrementing the total
> event size and then copying the remaining banks into the location of the first
> using memcpy from string.h.


I confirm the documented difference between memcpy() and memmove() and I confirm the 
questionable use of memcpy() in bk_delete(). I think it should be memmove(). I made it so in my copy 
of midas, so this change will not be lost.

But I am not sure how to test it - I do not think I ever used bk_delete(). I will probably ponder upon 
this and do a blind commit.


K.O.

In midas.c, the bk_delete function removes a bank by decrementing the total
event size and then copying the remaining banks into the location of the first
using memcpy from string.h.

memcpy is not specified to handle overlapping memory regions (such as MIDAS
banks), though it seems most common implementations do.

memmove should be used instead, which is specified to behave as if copying
through an intermediate buffer.

I noticed the misbehavior using glibc with gcc version 4.4.4 and scientific
linux 6.0. Other gcc versions changed nothing, as this originates from the
implementation of memcpy in libc.

libc version:
GNU C Library stable release version 2.12, by Roland McGrath et al.
Compiled by GNU CC version 4.4.5 20110214 (Red Hat 4.4.5-6).
Compiled on a Linux 2.6.32 system on 2011-12-06.

Hello,
      I'm trying to build khyt1331 under scientific linux 5.5, kernel
2.6.18-238.9.1el5.  Has anyone succeeded with this.  So far, I've
managed to compile by hacking all the references to man9 pages out
of the makefile.  I've then hand installed the kernel driver with 
insmod.  cat /proc/khyt1331 produces 
Hytec 5331 card found at address 0xE800, using interrupt 10
Device not in use
CAMAC crate 0: responding
CAMAC crate 1: not responding
CAMAC crate 2: not responding
CAMAC crate 3: not responding 
and the "addr" LED blinks - so progress of some sort.  
There's no sign of /dev/camac.

Next up I'm going to compile stuff like camactest.c - though the 
makefiles in the drivers folder don't mention these, so I'll have to
work through what is needed by hand.   

At some point I'll have to rewrite a bit so that it all load automatically.

Any hints or tips greatfully received.

John McMillan