24 Nov 2004, chris pearson, Info, midas on 64bit opteron
|
Midas, version 1.9.5 of 7th October, was installed, with a few changes, on a
64 bit opteron computer, running linux. For this processor, as for the alpha
processor, long integers and addresses are 64 bits. We added a new flag in the
Makefile,
250a251
> ARCH = $(shell uname -m)
377a379,381
> ifeq ($(ARCH),x86_64)
> OSFLAGS := $(OSFLAGS) -DX86_64
> endif
and extended the alpha-specific definitions, of DWORD and PTYPE, in midas.h to
include this case,
549c549
< #ifdef __alpha
---
> #if defined(__alpha) || defined(X86_64)
598c598
< #ifdef __alpha
---
> #if defined(__alpha) || defined(X86_64)
apart from this, there are a large number of cases where pointers are cast to
integers, without using the PTYPE definition. These all need to be changed by
hand, although these conversions should probably be removed anyway - in almost
all cases they are unnecessary, as just differences are being calculated.
There were also a number of warnings, which we ignored, where printf format
strings specified long integers, but the argument was not a long integer. Casts
should probably be added in all cases where the type of the argument can vary
depending on the machine.
A midas analyser was made, which was able to successfully replay some data, but
this was all that was tested.
Chris |
09 Nov 2004, Pierre-Andre Amaudruz, Bug Fix, New transition scheme
|
Problem:
If cm_set_transition_sequence() is used for changing the sequence number, the
command odbedit> start/stop/resume/pause -v report the propre sequence but the
action on the client side is actually not performed!
Fix:
Local transition table updated in midas.c (1.226)
Note:
The transition number under /system/clients/<pid>/transition...
is used internally. Changing it won't have any effect on the client action
if sequence number is not registered. |
04 Nov 2004, Jan Wouters, Forum, Frontend code and the ODB
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I would like to know whether all parameters used by the frontend code have to be in the "Experiment/
Run Parameters" section. This section can become big and difficult to maintain, because it is one single
big section of experim.h (EXP_PARAM_DEFINED). I have parameters the various frontends read at the
beginning of each run, which set the hardware settings of various devices. I would like to place these in
a section all their own, organized by device. Is this doable? |
04 Nov 2004, Stefan Ritt, Forum, Frontend code and the ODB
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Hi Jan,
I usually keep under /Experiment/Run Parameters only those settings which are kind of "global" and thus of
interest to frontend *and* analyzer, like a run mode (data/calibration/cosmic/...). Settings more specific to a
frontend I keep under /Equipment/<name>/Settings where <name> is the equipment name the specific frontend
produces. In your case each frontend will then get its own tree (related to each fragment). Please note that
both discussed trees can contain a whole tree with subdirectories, which lets you organize your data better.
Best regards, Stefan. |
02 Nov 2004, Renee Poutissou, Info, Event Builder info in mhttpd Status page
|
Information about the Event Builder statistics has been removed from the
Status page in mhttpd. I heard from Pierre that this information might
be redundant when using the new Event Builder format???
For the TWIST experiment, we are running and cannot change on the fly
to a new format Event Builder. It is very important for us to show the users
the rates and statistics coming out of the EventBuilder. I had to put this
piece of code back in mhttpd.
Can I put it back in the distribution? or do I have to put a special TWIST flag?
or do I have to keep reinserting this every time there is an update to mhttpd.c?
At the moment, TWIST is generating a couple of updates/week to mhttpd.c |
22 Oct 2004, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Fix, mhttpd message colouring
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I commited a fix to mhttpd logic that decides which messages should be shown in
"red" colour- before, any message with square brackets and colons would be
highlighted in red. Now only messages matching the pattern [...:...] are
highlighted. The decision logic was moved into a function message_red(). K.O. |
13 Oct 2004, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Report, TWIST upgrade bombed...
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The upgrade of TWIST to the latest midas has bombed- we see mevb and mlogger
crashes during shared memory data buffer accesses. I am looking into it and I
will add information as I figure things out. K.O. |
13 Oct 2004, Pierre-Andre Amaudruz, Bug Report, TWIST upgrade bombed...
|
> The upgrade of TWIST to the latest midas has bombed- we see mevb and mlogger
> crashes during shared memory data buffer accesses. I am looking into it and I
> will add information as I figure things out. K.O.
Since 1.9.5 the EventBuilder has been modified. Please consult the documentation
where the new mevb scheme is explained.
Test of the mevb with up to 16 frontends (15 different CPUs) has been tested
successfully. Data rate at the EventBuilder were measured about 50MB/s without the
logger and ~30MB/s with the logger. |
13 Oct 2004, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Report, TWIST upgrade bombed...
|
> > The upgrade of TWIST to the latest midas has bombed- we see mevb and mlogger
> > crashes during shared memory data buffer accesses. I am looking into it and I
> > will add information as I figure things out. K.O.
>
> Since 1.9.5 the EventBuilder has been modified. Please consult the documentation
> where the new mevb scheme is explained.
> Test of the mevb with up to 16 frontends (15 different CPUs) has been tested
> successfully. Data rate at the EventBuilder were measured about 50MB/s without the
> logger and ~30MB/s with the logger.
It turns out that TWIST uses a private mevb.c. We will consider upgrading to the
standard one.
K.O. |
13 Oct 2004, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Report, TWIST upgrade bombed...
|
> The upgrade of TWIST to the latest midas has bombed- we see mevb and mlogger
> crashes during shared memory data buffer accesses. I am looking into it and I
> will add information as I figure things out. K.O.
I traced buffer memory corruption to a logic error in system.c::ss_shm_open(). If
a .SHM file exists, it's size is used as the size of the sysv shared memory
segment, even if the requested shared memory size is bigger, but the caller of
ss_shm_open() thinks it got all the requested memory. Eventually we try to use
the unallocated memory and crash. This is the proposed fix and I will commit it
after I retest the upgrade during the next few days.
[olchansk@send src]$ cvs diff -u system.c
olchansk@midas.psi.ch's password:
Index: system.c
===================================================================
RCS file: /usr/local/cvsroot/midas/src/system.c,v
retrieving revision 1.83
diff -u -r1.83 system.c
--- system.c 4 Oct 2004 07:04:01 -0000 1.83
+++ system.c 14 Oct 2004 05:51:16 -0000
@@ -544,8 +544,14 @@
} else {
/* if file exists, retrieve its size */
file_size = (INT) ss_file_size(file_name);
- if (file_size > 0)
+ if (file_size > 0) {
+ if (file_size < size) {
+ cm_msg(MERROR, "ss_shm_open", "Shared memory segment \'%s\' size
%d is smaller than requested size %d. Please remove it and try
again",file_name,file_size,size);
+ return SS_NO_MEMORY;
+ }
+
size = file_size;
+ }
}
/* get the shared memory, create if not existing */
K.O. |
14 Oct 2004, Stefan Ritt, Bug Report, TWIST upgrade bombed...
|
Agree.
Once you did the modification, please check following situation: Create a fresh
ODB withe increased size ("odbedit -s 2000000" for example). Then check that the
other clients "adopt" this increased size. Note that some experiments need a
bigger ODB, and I don't want to have them recompile all clients, that's why the
code in ss_shm_open() can attach to a *larger* shared memory. However, it should
not matter to the process, since the ODB (or SYSTEM) shared memory size is
stored in the pheader->key_size and pheader->data_size of each participating
process. So they should never write beyond the limits defined in that header.
The size to ss_shm_open() is only a "hint" if the shared memory does not exist,
and is nowhere later used in the code. |
14 Oct 2004, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Report, TWIST upgrade bombed...
|
> The upgrade of TWIST to the latest midas has bombed- we see mevb and mlogger
> crashes during shared memory data buffer accesses. I am looking into it and I
> will add information as I figure things out. K.O.
On second try, it looks like we are in business- the first try did not work
because of two mistakes:
1) I did not delete *all* old .SHM files (.ODB.SHM, .SYSTEM.SHM, .YBUF1.SHM,
.YBUF2.SHM). I deleted ODB.SHM, so odb worked, but forgot about the data buffers
SYSTEM.SHM & co and ended up with segmentation faults and core dumps in the buffer
management code caused by a mismatch of the old-midas buffers and new-midas code.
2) while debugging these core dumps, I made an error in my test code, so even
after I deleted the old data buffers, things still did not work. Talk about
over-debugging a problem...
K.O. |
13 Oct 2004, Konstantin Olchanski, Suggestion, No al_clear_alarm()?
|
We have al_trigger_alarm(), but no matching al_clear_alarm(), and I need it to
clear my alarm once the alarm condition no longer exists. Any objections if I
add this function? K.O. |
13 Oct 2004, Stefan Ritt, Suggestion, No al_clear_alarm()?
|
> We have al_trigger_alarm(), but no matching al_clear_alarm(), and I need it to
> clear my alarm once the alarm condition no longer exists. Any objections if I
> add this function? K.O.
The idea is that once an alarm got triggered, it stays until the user
acknowledged, even if the alarm condition has been disappeared. Through mhttpd,
the user can press the "Reset" button, which then executes al_reset_alarm().
However, it is possible to call al_reset_alarm() directly from user code to
achieve the same thing. |
13 Oct 2004, Konstantin Olchanski, Suggestion, No al_clear_alarm()?
|
> > We have al_trigger_alarm(), but no matching al_clear_alarm(), and I need it to
> > clear my alarm once the alarm condition no longer exists. Any objections if I
> > add this function? K.O.
>
> call al_reset_alarm()
Thanks. I must be quite blind as I did not see al_reset_alarm() in midas.h. I se eit
now. Thanks.
K.O. |
13 Oct 2004, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Report, silly odbedit "rename Display xxx/yyy"
|
odbedit command "rename Display xxx/yyy" creates a key named "xxx/yyy" (yes,
with a slash in the name) and this key cannot be deleted or renamed...
K.O. |
13 Oct 2004, Stefan Ritt, Bug Report, silly odbedit "rename Display xxx/yyy"
|
> odbedit command "rename Display xxx/yyy" creates a key named "xxx/yyy" (yes,
> with a slash in the name) and this key cannot be deleted or renamed...
> K.O.
"rename" is "rename", not "mv" under Unix. If you want this functionality, put it
in and don't complain! |
13 Oct 2004, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Report, db_paste: found string exceeding MAX_STRING_LENGTH
|
I am updating TWIST to the latest MIDAS and when I load a saved .odb file, I get
these messages. Their text ought to say where and what strings it does not like.
K.O.
[twistonl@midtwist ~/online]$ odbedit
Please define environment variable 'MIDASSYS'
pointing to the midas installation directory.
[local:twist:S]/>load /twist/data_onl/current/run17548.odb
[odb.c:5600:db_paste] found string exceeding MAX_STRING_LENGTH
[odb.c:5600:db_paste] found string exceeding MAX_STRING_LENGTH
[odb.c:5600:db_paste] found string exceeding MAX_STRING_LENGTH |
13 Oct 2004, Stefan Ritt, Bug Report, db_paste: found string exceeding MAX_STRING_LENGTH
|
Can you attach
/twist/data_onl/current/run17548.odb
so I can reproduce the problem? |
29 Sep 2004, Stefan Ritt, Info, Increased number of clients in midas.h, important!
|
Due to some request several limitations like the maximal number of clients to the ODB have
been increased in midas.h and committed to CVS. It is important to note that clients compiled
with the old limits cannot coexist with clients compiled with the new limits. You will get
ODB corruption notifications and everything will crash, and you wonder where this comes from.
So once you CVS update midas.h, revision 1.139, please make sure to recompile *ALL* your
midas applications with the new midas.h.
Stefan |
03 Oct 2004, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, Increased number of clients in midas.h, important!
|
> It is important to note that clients compiled
> with the old limits cannot coexist with clients compiled with the new limits. You will get
> ODB corruption notifications and everything will crash, and you wonder where this comes from.
>
> So once you CVS update midas.h, revision 1.139, please make sure to recompile *ALL* your
> midas applications with the new midas.h.
Stefan, to avoid confusion from crashes caused by incompatible ODBs would it be possible to add a "version number" to ODB, together with a check and an error message
saying "oops... incompatible ODB, please rebuild your programs"? We tend to have different versions of midas floating around and users have old executables stashed away,
and all this makes it rather difficult to manually keep track on what ODB is compatible with what midas.
K.O. |
03 Oct 2004, Stefan Ritt, Info, Increased number of clients in midas.h, important!
|
> Stefan, to avoid confusion from crashes caused by incompatible ODBs would it be possible to add a "version number" to ODB,
together with a check and an error message
> saying "oops... incompatible ODB, please rebuild your programs"? We tend to have different versions of midas floating around and
users have old executables stashed away,
> and all this makes it rather difficult to manually keep track on what ODB is compatible with what midas.
I fully agree that a version number in ODB is a good thing, and I certainly will put one there, but this won't help for old
applications. If I add new code which checks in cm_connect_experiment() if the version number matches, this will only help for new
applications connecting to old ODBs. If old applications (prior to invention of the version number) connect to a new ODB, they still
will crash.
However, we are planning to make a new release 1.9.5 soon (next week), so can can people tell not to "mix" 1.9.5 with pre-1.9.5
programs. |
03 Oct 2004, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, Increased number of clients in midas.h, important!
|
> However, we are planning to make a new release 1.9.5 soon (next week), so can can people tell not to "mix" 1.9.5 with pre-1.9.5 programs.
Right. We cannot fix the past, but we should fix the future. BTW, "do not mix versions" is hard to enforce and mismatches did, do and
will happen. For one thing, looking at a given midas-using executable, how do I tell what version of midas it has inside?
K.O. |
04 Oct 2004, Stefan Ritt, Info, Increased number of clients in midas.h, important!
|
> Right. We cannot fix the past, but we should fix the future. BTW, "do not mix versions" is hard to enforce and mismatches did, do and
> will happen
For remote connections (through mserver), there is already a version check. If the minor version differs, you get a warning, if the major
versions differ (1.>>9<<.4), the client won't start. So at least for remote connection you get a clue.
> For one thing, looking at a given midas-using executable, how do I tell what version of midas it has inside?
Ther is a function cm_get_version() returning the version. As for the executable, all you can do is a
strings <executable> | grep 1.9 |
08 Oct 2004, chris pearson, Info, Increased number of clients in midas.h, important!
|
> > For one thing, looking at a given midas-using executable, how do I tell what version of midas it has inside?
>
> Ther is a function cm_get_version() returning the version. As for the executable, all you can do is a
>
> strings <executable> | grep 1.9
A lot of programs have a commandline option, such as "--version", where they return the program version number then exit. As well as the
program version number, the version number of the midas library it's linked with could also be returned (There can be more than one
libmidas.so on a system and this would show which one was currently being linked)
Something I would find useful would be for the version number to identify precisely which version you have, i.e. not to have different
versions of midas given the same version number. I've had problems earlier this year due to midas-1.9.3 changing several times between
January and July, while keeping the same number. I think if "in-between" versions of midas are to be made available, they should contain a
revision number or date or something in the version number to identify them.
> For remote connections (through mserver), there is already a version check. If the minor version differs, you get a warning, if the major
> versions differ (1.>>9<<.4), the client won't start. So at least for remote connection you get a clue.
Safety measures like these can sometimes get in the way, if you know what you're doing. So unless there is absolutely no possibility of
success, I think checks such as this one should be overrideable (by a client option).
Chris |
08 Oct 2004, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, Increased number of clients in midas.h, important!
|
> A lot of programs have a commandline option, such as "--version", where they return the program version number then exit. As well as the
> program version number, the version number of the midas library it's linked with could also be returned (There can be more than one
> libmidas.so on a system and this would show which one was currently being linked)
This would solve the versioning problem for midas built from versionned tarballs, and I am considering a similar scheme for midas installed from
RPMs. But what do I do for midas built from CVS?!? K.O. |
03 Oct 2004, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, mscb usb support for macosx
|
After a felicitous confuence of stellar bodies (Stefan, myself, some mscb hardware
and a mac laptop all in the same room for a few days), I wrote some MacOSX
code to support the MSCB-USB dongle using the native IoKit USB API. During testing,
I was able to communicate with an MSCB High voltage regulator module. I am now
commiting this code to CVS, warts and all (we can clean it up when somebody actually
uses it). Tested compilation on Linux (with libusb) and MacOSX (native
IoKit. MacOSX+libusb is possible but untested), Win32 should be unaffected by my changes,
but I could not test it.
K.O. |
03 Oct 2004, Stefan Ritt, Info, Introduction of new transition scheme
|
A new transition scheme has been implemented and committed. Previously, one had the
possibility to register for PRE/POST transitions, which was necessary in order to first
stop the frontends, then stop the logger to close the data file. While this scheme
long time has proven to be successful, it was now concluded that three levels
(PRESTROP/STOP/POSTSTOP for example) are not suffucient in some cases. Therefore,
a true sequence-based scheme has been introduced, implemented and committed.
The PRE/POST transition have been removed and an extra parameter "sequence_number"
has been added to cm_register_transition. If clients register with different
sequence numbers, their RPC transition function is executed according to their
sequnce number, smaller numbers being executed prior to larger numbers.
The frontends register at sequence number 500 for example, while the logger
registers with 200 for start and 800 for stop, making sure it's called after the
frontend(s) when stopping a run. The default numbers can be changed from within
the user code with the new function cm_set_transition_sequence(). This way, it is
for example possible to have all frontends being called in a certain sequence
when starting and stopping runs.
The modification will (hopefully) not have any influence of existing experiemnts,
as long as they don't call cm_register_transition directly. If so however, one has
to add the additional parameter to this function. |
28 Sep 2004, Piotr Zolnierczuk, Forum, MIDAS/MVME167/Linux
|
Hi,
has anyone tried runnning midas frontend on a Linux running
on a Motorola MVME167 motorola embedded CPU?
I have seen people running Linux on a MV167
(http://www.sleepie.demon.co.uk/linuxvme/)
so in principle this can be done.
The reason I am asking is that we have a lot of them in house
and we would like to avoid paying for VxWorks
(I have succesfully run Midas on a mvme167/VxWorks node)
Or maybe one has come up with a much better solution
[short of dumping mv167 into a sewer :)]
Piotr |
12 Jun 2003, Pierre-André Amaudruz, , Tape handling
|
- remove ss_tape_get_blockn from lazylogger.c
- add ss_tape_get_blockn to system.c
- add ss_tape_get_blockn prototype into midas.h
- fix buffer size for "dir" in mtape.c
- add block# for "dir" in mtape if command successful.
- handle TID_STRUCT bank type by display as 8bit in ybos.c (mdump) |
17 Jun 2003, Stefan Ritt, , example experiment makefile for NT
|
I have added ROOT support to midas\examples\experiment\makefile.nt. To
compile the example experiment under Windows, one needs
1) Installed version of ROOT
2) Having ROOTSYS environment variable defined
3) Invoke "nmake -f makefile.nt" in the midas\examples\experiment directory
Please note that in the current release 3.05 of ROOT, sockets are not yet
working under Windows, so the histogram server built into the analyzer
cannot be accessed. It is however possible to output the analyzed data into
a .root file and visualize it with the root browser like
analyzer -i run00001.mid -o run00001.root |
26 Jun 2003, David Morris, , pthreads for Linux
|
Added ss_create_thread support for Linux in system.c
Added pthread library in main make file |
26 Jul 2003, Konstantin Olchanski, , more ODB checks in src/odb.c
|
Add more checks to db_validate_key() for pkey->total_size, item_size and
num_values. Automatically correct total_size to be item_size*num_values (we
saw this corruption and tested this fix).
K.O.
For your enjoyment, here is the diff:
RCS file: /usr/local/cvsroot/midas/src/odb.c,v
retrieving revision 1.64
diff -r1.64 odb.c
718a719,744
> /* check key sizes */
> if ((pkey->total_size < 0)||(pkey->total_size > pheader->key_size))
> {
> cm_msg(MERROR, "db_validate_key", "Warning: invalid key \"%s\"
total_size: %d", path, pkey->total_size);
> return 0;
> }
>
> if ((pkey->item_size < 0)||(pkey->item_size > pheader->key_size))
> {
> cm_msg(MERROR, "db_validate_key", "Warning: invalid key \"%s\"
item_size: %d", path, pkey->item_size);
> return 0;
> }
>
> if ((pkey->num_values < 0)||(pkey->num_values > pheader->key_size))
> {
> cm_msg(MERROR, "db_validate_key", "Warning: invalid key \"%s\"
num_values: %d", path, pkey->num_values);
> return 0;
> }
>
> /* check and correct key size */
> if (pkey->total_size != pkey->item_size*pkey->num_values)
> {
> cm_msg(MINFO, "db_validate_key", "Warning: corrected key \"%s\" size:
total_size=%d, should be %d*%d=%d", path, pkey->total_size, pkey->item_size,
pkey->num_values, pkey
->item_size*pkey->num_values);
> pkey->total_size = pkey->item_size*pkey->num_values;
> }
> |
26 Jul 2003, Konstantin Olchanski, , use "odbedit -C" to connect to corrupted ODB
|
Add switch "-C" to odbedit to allow it to connect to corrupted ODB. Then,
depending on corruption, the user can manually remove or correct the
corrupted entries. Also, some corruption is automatically fixed by "odbedit"
itself. I use this functionality to debug and fix broken ODBs.
K.O.
For your enjoyment, here is the diff:
diff -r1.64 odbedit.c
3058a3059
> BOOL corrupted;
3063c3064
< debug = cmd_mode = FALSE;
---
> debug = corrupted = cmd_mode = FALSE;
3077a3079,3080
> else if (argv[i][0] == '-' && argv[i][1] == 'C')
> corrupted = TRUE;
3104c3107,3108
< printf(" [-c Command] [-c @CommandFile] [-s size]
[-g (debug)]\n\n");
---
> printf(" [-c Command] [-c @CommandFile] [-s size]\n");
> printf(" [-g (debug)] [-C (connect to corrupted
ODB)]\n\n");
3123c3127,3133
< if (status != CM_SUCCESS)
---
> else if ((status == DB_INVALID_HANDLE)&&corrupted)
> {
> cm_get_error(status, str);
> puts(str);
> printf("ODB is corrupted, connecting anyway...\n");
> }
> else if (status != CM_SUCCESS) |
29 Jul 2003, Konstantin Olchanski, , Have to link with -lpthread?
|
It appears that all midas applications are now required to link with the
pthreads library even if they do not use threads. This is caused by a
pthread_create() call from ss_thread_create() in system.c.
Is this the intended behaviour?
K.O. |
30 Jul 2003, David Morris, , Have to link with -lpthread?
|
The change is required to support implementation of pthreads in the Linux
compile of Midas. This was added recently. I believe pthreads is also needed
for ROOT based compiles.
David
> It appears that all midas applications are now required to link with the
> pthreads library even if they do not use threads. This is caused by a
> pthread_create() call from ss_thread_create() in system.c.
>
> Is this the intended behaviour?
>
> K.O. |
19 Aug 2003, Pierre-André Amaudruz, , minor fixes, new tarball 1.9.3-1
|
- add pthread lib to examples/... makefile
- fix ybos_simfe.c for max_event_size
- fix camacnul.c for cam_inhibit_test(), cam_interrupt_test()
- update documentation (1.9.3)
- made midas-1.9.3-1.tar.gz on Triumf site |
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