22 Sep 2025, Thomas Lindner, Info, MIDAS workshop (online) Sept 22-23, 2025
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Dear all,
The original zoom link on the indico page was not correct. We have created a new zoom link and updated the
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22 Sep 2025, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, switch midas to next c++
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As part of discussions with Stefan during the MIDAS workshop,
an update to supported versions of c++ on different platforms.
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22 Sep 2025, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, switch midas to c++17
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Following discussions at the MIDAS workshop, we propose to move MIDAS from c++11 to c++17. There is
many new features and we want to start using some of them.
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22 Sep 2025, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, removal of ROOT support in mlogger
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Historically, building MIDAS with ROOT caused us many problems - build failures because of c++ version
mismatch, CFLAGS mismatch; run-time failures because of ROOT library mismatches; etc, etc.
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22 Sep 2025, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, obsolete mana.c removal
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Following discussions at the MIDAS workshop and the proposed removal of support for ROOT, the very obsolete mana.c
analyzer framework has reached the end of the line.
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23 Sep 2025, Andreas Suter, Info, obsolete mana.c removal
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Hi,
at the LEM Experiment at PSI, we still use mana.c and would like to keep it until end of 2026, where we will enter a long shutdown.
There we will switch to the manalyzer. Before that, there is simply no time for the change over. One thing I already noticed is the "lack" of documentation, |
23 Sep 2025, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, obsolete mana.c removal
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> Hi, at the LEM Experiment at PSI, we still use mana.c and would like to keep it until end of 2026, where we will enter a long shutdown.
Excellent, good to hear from you! Once we remove ROOT support rmana.o will be gone, only mana.o (no ROOT) will remain. Will this break your builds?
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23 Sep 2025, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, 64-bit time_t
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To record discussion with Stefan regarding 64-bit time_t
To remember:
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23 Sep 2025, Pavel Murat, Info, switch midas to c++17
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perhaps c++20? - std::format is an immediately useful feature. --regards, Pasha
> Following discussions at the MIDAS workshop, we propose to move MIDAS from c++11 to c++17. There is
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23 Sep 2025, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, long history variable names
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To record discussion with Stefan about long history variable names.
We have several requests to remove the 32-byte limit on history variable names.
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23 Sep 2025, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, switch midas to c++17
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> perhaps c++20? - std::format is an immediately useful feature. --regards, Pasha
confirmed. std::format is an improvement over K&R C printf().
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23 Sep 2025, Pavel Murat, Info, switch midas to c++17
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> > perhaps c++20? - std::format is an immediately useful feature. --regards, Pasha
>
> confirmed. std::format is an improvement over K&R C printf().
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24 Sep 2025, Andreas Suter, Info, obsolete mana.c removal
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Sorry,
I have had now the time to dig deeper in our code and realized that we actually use rmana, i.e. WITH ROOT. If there is an easy way to incorporate the necessary |
06 Nov 2025, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, switch midas to c++17
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> Following discussions at the MIDAS workshop, we propose to move MIDAS from c++11 to c++17.
There were no objections to this move.
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06 Nov 2025, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, removal of ROOT support in mlogger
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> we should finally bite the bullet and remove ROOT support from MIDAS ...
there were no objections to removing ROOT support from mlogger.
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06 Nov 2025, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, make clang-tidy
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I added Makefile rules for running MIDAS through the clang-tidy static code
analyzer. (rules for running cppcheck have gone missing, I hope I find them).
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10 Nov 2025, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, db_delete_key(TRUE)
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> I would handle this actually like symbolic links are handled under linux. If you delete a symbolic link, the link gets
> detected and NOT the file the link is pointing to.
>
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28 Sep 2004, Piotr Zolnierczuk, Forum, MIDAS/MVME167/Linux
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Hi,
has anyone tried runnning midas frontend on a Linux running
on a Motorola MVME167 motorola embedded CPU?
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04 Nov 2004, Jan Wouters, Forum, Frontend code and the ODB
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I would like to know whether all parameters used by the frontend code have to be in the "Experiment/
Run Parameters" section. This section can become big and difficult to maintain, because it is one single
big section of experim.h (EXP_PARAM_DEFINED). I have parameters the various frontends read at the
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04 Nov 2004, Stefan Ritt, Forum, Frontend code and the ODB
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Hi Jan,
I usually keep under /Experiment/Run Parameters only those settings which are kind of "global" and thus of
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