06 May 2022, Stefan Ritt, Info, Increased timeout for program shut down
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We had the problem in our lab that a frontend took about 6 seconds to gracefully
shut down, mainly it needed to park some motors. I found that the shutdown command
had a hard-coded timeout of 5 seconds, after which the frontend gets killed, and
cannot finish the park operation. I change the code so that the client timeout
stored in the ODB is taken instead of the hard-coded 5 seconds. This allows each
client to fine-tune its timeout, to allow graceful shutdown, but also not let the
user wait too long if the client gets stuck and needs a hard kill.
The default timeout for mfe.cxx based frontends has been changed to 10 seconds
now, but in the frontend_init function this can be changed by the user code
easily.
I hope this char does not trigger any bad side effects, but if it does, please
report here.
Stefan |
04 May 2022, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Fix, mysql history update
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the code for writing midas history to mysql has been updated to work against
MYSQL 8.0.23 (CERN ALPHA-2):
- as ever mysql reports inconsistent data types (I create column with type
"integer", mysql reports it has type "int" and so forth), the special kludge to
take care of this had to be tweaked.
- this caused some columns to be marked "inactive" and the code to "reactivate"
them was missing (fixed)
- binary history event data size was computed incorrectly for events with
"inactive" columns (fixed) and caused assert() failure and mlogger crash.
- mysql read of column definitions for history event "system" (as in
/history/links/system) bombed because of incorrect quoting (worked before, why?
why bombed now?). this caused duplicate columns to be created in mysql table
"system" and mlogger bomb-out with complaint about "duplicated columns"
(actually the error message was missing, so it was a silent bomb-out). quoting
fixed, missing error message fixed, but cleanup of duplicate columns has to be
done by hand. in case of alpha-2 the fix was to remove the unused
/history/links/system).
if you are using mysql history please update or patch src/history_schema.cxx.
commit 9d17d2fef233cf457121ca7c2a283c4c76ed33bc
K.O. |
30 Apr 2022, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, added web pages for "show odb clients" and "show open records"
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for a long time, midas web pages have been missing the equivalent of odbedit
"scl" and "sor" to display current odb clients and current odb open records.
this is now added as buttons "show open records" and "show odb clients" in the
odb editor page.
as in odbedit, "sor" shows open records under the current subtree, i.e. if you
are looking at /equipment, you will not see open records for /experiment. to see
all open records, go to "/".
commit b1ab7e67ecf785744fff092708d8389f222b14a4
K.O. |
04 May 2022, Stefan Ritt, Info, added web pages for "show odb clients" and "show open records"
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Concerning the "scl" page, we are currently having a discussion. At the moment, one can
see midas clients in three different places:
1) the main status page at the bottom, only names and hosts are there
2) the programs page, where one can also start/stop program
3) now the new page "Show ODB clients" in the ODB editor page, which shows also the
alive status, PID and timeout
I'm thinking that three locations are two too much, so we are considering to merge the
tree pages into one. That would mean that 1) goes away, and the "Programs" page will
show more information. We have some rare cases that programs are removed from
/System/Clients in the ODB but still attached to the ODB. For those "zombies" we would
add a "hard kill" function.
I would like to hear feedback from the midas community before we proceed with the
plans. Anybody desperately in need of the programs shown on the status page?
Best,
Stefan |
01 May 2022, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, added web page for "mdump"
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added JSON RPC for bm_receive_event() and added a web page for "mdump".
the event dump is a hex dump for now.
if somebody can contribute a javascript decoder for midas bank format, it would be greatly appreciated.
otherwise, I will eventually write my own decoder library patterned on midasio.h and midasio.cxx.
as of commit 5882d55d1f5bbbdb0d9238ada639e63ac27d8825
K.O. |
01 May 2022, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, added web page for "mdump"
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> added JSON RPC for bm_receive_event()
there is a number of problems with implementing bm_receive_event() as a RPC:
1) mhttpd has only event buffer 1 read pointer for all javascript connections, if two browser tabs are
running mdump, they will "steal" events from each other.
2) javascript connections are state-less and we cannot specify per-connection event_id and trigger_mask
filters to bm_receive_event(). our bm_request_event() has to be for all event_id and all trigger_mask.
3) for same reason, we cannot have some requests to be GET_ALL, some to be GET_RECENT and some to be
GET_OLD (if GET_OLD is ever implemented).
Problem (1) is hard to fix. Only solution I can see is to have mhttpd have it's own event buffer that can
somehow track which events have been sent to which javascript connection.
The same scheme allows implementing GET_ALL and per-connection event_id and trigger_mask filters.
The difficulty is in detecting javascript connections that are no longer active and it's event request and
events we have buffered for it can be deleted. Unlike proper rpc clients, javascript browser tabs can be
closed without warning and without opportunity to tell rpc server that they are closed, gone.
K.O. |
01 May 2022, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, added web page for "mdump"
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> added a web page for "mdump".
missing functions:
- get a list of existing event buffers (should read event buffer names from /Experiment/Buffer sizes)
- selector box to select event buffer
- button for "get next" and "get new" (should call bm_skip_event() before bm_receive_event())
- entry fields for event_id and trigger_mask event filter
- check box for "keep getting new data" and entry field for update frequency
- (eventually) entry field for bank name filter
K.O. |
02 May 2022, Stefan Ritt, Info, added web page for "mdump"
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Here are some of my thoughts:
- I volunteer to write the JavaScript midas bank decoder. Just a couple of pure javascript functions, no
midasio.cxx library needed.
- If different javascript connections "steal" events from each other, I would not be concerned. Actually I
would rather like that all connections see the SAME event. So mhttpd keeps one event, serves it to all
links, so displays are consistent. If a browser wants to see the "next" event, it send the old serial
number and days "please send next event AFTER serial number". If the serial number is larger than the
event in the buffer, mhttpd fetches a new event and puts it into its buffer.
- Since javascript connections are connectionless, I would rather pass event_id and trigger_mask with each
request. Then mhttpd can retrieve events until event_id and trigger_mask match, then serve that event.
Since reading events from a midas buffer is fast (many 10'000s of events per second), the won't be much of
a delay.
- GET_ALL does not make sense for browsers, you don't want to slow down any frontend. If someone wants to
do histogramming in the browser, then GET_SOME (which is kind of GET_OLD) would make sense, but most of
the cases we have some single event display, and there a GET_RECENT is most appropriate. |
30 Apr 2022, Giovanni Mazzitelli, Forum, S3 Object Storage
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Dear all,
We are storing raw MIDAS files to S3 Object Storage, but MIDAS file are not
optimised for readout from such kind of storage. There is any work around on
evolution of midas raw output or, beyond simulated posix fs, to develop midas
python library optimised to stream data from S3 (is not really clear to me if this
is possible). |
30 Apr 2022, Konstantin Olchanski, Forum, S3 Object Storage
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> We are storing raw MIDAS files to S3 Object Storage, but MIDAS file are not
> optimised for readout from such kind of storage. There is any work around on
> evolution of midas raw output or, beyond simulated posix fs, to develop midas
> python library optimised to stream data from S3 (is not really clear to me if this
> is possible).
We have plans for adding S3 object storage support to lazylogger, but have not gotten
around to it yet.
We do not plan to add this in mlogger. mlogger works well for writing data to locally-
attached storage (local ext4, XFS, ZFS) but always runs into problems with timeouts and
delays when writing to anything network-attached (even writing to NFS).
I envision that each midas raw data file (mid.gz or mid.lz4 or mid.bz2) will
be stored as an S3 object and there will be some kind of directory object
to map object ids to run and subrun numbers.
Choice of best file size is open, normally we use subruns to limit file size to 1-2
Gbytes. If cloud storage prefers some other object size, we can easily to up to 10
Gbytes and down to "a few megabytes" (ODB dumps will have to be turned off for this).
Other than that, in your view, what else is needed to optimize midas files for storage
in the Amazon S3 could?
P.S. For reading files from the cloud, code needs to be written and added to
midasio/midasio.cxx, for example, see the code that is already there for reading ssh-
attached files and dcache/dccp-attached files. (CERN EOS files can be read directly
from POSIX mount point /eos).
K.O. |
01 May 2022, Giovanni Mazzitelli, Forum, S3 Object Storage
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> > We are storing raw MIDAS files to S3 Object Storage, but MIDAS file are not
> > optimised for readout from such kind of storage. There is any work around on
> > evolution of midas raw output or, beyond simulated posix fs, to develop midas
> > python library optimised to stream data from S3 (is not really clear to me if this
> > is possible).
>
> We have plans for adding S3 object storage support to lazylogger, but have not gotten
> around to it yet.
>
> We do not plan to add this in mlogger. mlogger works well for writing data to locally-
> attached storage (local ext4, XFS, ZFS) but always runs into problems with timeouts and
> delays when writing to anything network-attached (even writing to NFS).
>
> I envision that each midas raw data file (mid.gz or mid.lz4 or mid.bz2) will
> be stored as an S3 object and there will be some kind of directory object
> to map object ids to run and subrun numbers.
>
> Choice of best file size is open, normally we use subruns to limit file size to 1-2
> Gbytes. If cloud storage prefers some other object size, we can easily to up to 10
> Gbytes and down to "a few megabytes" (ODB dumps will have to be turned off for this).
>
> Other than that, in your view, what else is needed to optimize midas files for storage
> in the Amazon S3 could?
>
> P.S. For reading files from the cloud, code needs to be written and added to
> midasio/midasio.cxx, for example, see the code that is already there for reading ssh-
> attached files and dcache/dccp-attached files. (CERN EOS files can be read directly
> from POSIX mount point /eos).
>
> K.O.
thanks,
actually a I made a small work around with python boto3 library with file of any size (with
the obviously limitation of opportunity and time to wait) eg:
key = 'TMP/run00060.mid.gz'
aws_session = creds.assumed_session("infncloud-iam")
s3 = aws_session.client('s3', endpoint_url="https://minio.cloud.infn.it/",
config=boto3.session.Config(signature_version='s3v4'),verify=True)
s3_obj = s3.get_object(Bucket='cygno-data',Key=key)
buf = BytesIO(s3_obj["Body"]._raw_stream.data)
for event in MidasSream(gzip.GzipFile(fileobj=buf)):
if event.header.is_midas_internal_event():
print("Saw a special event")
continue
bank_names = ", ".join(b.name for b in event.banks.values())
print("Event # %s of type ID %s contains banks %s" % (event.header.serial_number,
event.header.event_id, bank_names))
....
where in MidasSream I just bypass the open, and the code work, but obviously in this way I
need to have all the buffer in memory and it take time get all the buffer. I was interested to
understand if some one have already develop the stream event by event (better in python but
not mandatory). I'll look to the code you underline.
Thanks, G.
|
16 Mar 2022, Stefan Ritt, Info, New midas sequencer version
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A new version of the midas sequencer has been developed and now available in the
develop/seq_eval branch. Many thanks to Lewis Van Winkle and his TinyExpr library
(https://codeplea.com/tinyexpr), which has now been integrated into the sequencer
and allow arbitrary Math expressions. Here is a complete list of new features:
* Math is now possible in all expressions, such as "x = $i*3 + sin($y*pi)^2", or
in "ODBSET /Path/value[$i*2+1], 10"
* "SET <var>,<value>" can be written as "<var>=<value>", but the old syntax is
still possible.
* There are new functions ODBCREATE and ODBDLETE to create and delete ODB keys,
including arrays
* Variable arrays are now possible, like "a[5] = 0" and "MESSAGE $a[5]"
If the branch works for us in the next days and I don't get complaints from
others, I will merge the branch into develop next week.
Stefan |
22 Mar 2022, Stefan Ritt, Info, New midas sequencer version
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After several days of testing in various experiments, the new sequencer has
been merged into the develop branch. One more feature was added. The path to
the ODB can now contain variables which are substituted with their values.
Instead writing
ODBSET /Equipment/XYZ/Setting/1/Switch, 1
ODBSET /Equipment/XYZ/Setting/2/Switch, 1
ODBSET /Equipment/XYZ/Setting/3/Switch, 1
one can now write
LOOP i, 3
ODBSET /Equipment/XYZ/Setting/$i/Switch, 1
ENDLOOP
Of course it is not possible for me to test any possible script. So if you
have issues with the new sequencer, please don't hesitate to report them
back to me.
Best,
Stefan |
15 Apr 2022, Stefan Ritt, Info, New midas sequencer version
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I prepared some slides about the new features of the sequencer and post it here so
people can have a quick look at get some inspiration.
Stefan |
05 Apr 2013, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, ODB JSON support
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odbedit can now save ODB in JSON-formatted files. (JSON is a popular data encoding standard associated
with Javascript). The intent is to eventually use the ODB JSON encoder in mhttpd to simplify passing of
ODB data to custom web pages. In mhttpd I also intend to support the JSON-P variation of JSON (via the
jQuery "callback=?" notation).
JSON encoding implementation follows specifications at:
http://json.org/
http://www.json-p.org/
http://api.jquery.com/jQuery.getJSON/ (seek to JSONP)
The result passes validation by:
http://jsonlint.com/
Added functions:
INT EXPRT db_save_json(HNDLE hDB, HNDLE hKey, const char *file_name);
INT EXPRT db_copy_json(HNDLE hDB, HNDLE hKey, char **buffer, int *buffer_size, int *buffer_end, int
save_keys, int follow_links);
For example of using this code, see odbedit.c and odb.c::db_save_json().
Example json file:
Notes:
1) hex numbers are quoted "0x1234" - JSON does not permit "hex numbers", but Javascript will
automatically convert strings containing hex numbers into proper integers.
2) "double" is encoded with full 15 digit precision, "float" with full 7 digit precision. If floating point values
are actually integers, they are encoded as integers (10.0 -> "10" if (value == (int)value)).
3) in this example I deleted all the "name/key" entries except for "stringvalue" and "sbyte2". I use the
"/key" notation for ODB KEY data because the "/" character cannot appear inside valid ODB entry names.
Normally, depending on the setting of "save_keys" argument, KEY data is present or absent for all entries.
ladd03:midas$ odbedit
[local:testexpt:S]/>cd /test
[local:testexpt:S]/test>save test.js
[local:testexpt:S]/test>exit
ladd03:midas$ more test.js
# MIDAS ODB JSON
# FILE test.js
# PATH /test
{
"test" : {
"intarr" : [ 15, 0, 0, 3, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 9 ],
"dblvalue" : 2.2199999999999999e+01,
"fltvalue" : 1.1100000e+01,
"dwordvalue" : "0x0000007d",
"wordvalue" : "0x0141",
"boolvalue" : true,
"stringvalue" : [ "aaa123bbb", "", "", "", "", "", "", "", "", "" ],
"stringvalue/key" : {
"type" : 12,
"num_values" : 10,
"item_size" : 1024,
"last_written" : 1288592982
},
"byte1" : 10,
"byte2" : 241,
"char1" : "1",
"char2" : "-",
"sbyte1" : 10,
"sbyte2" : -15,
"sbyte2/key" : {
"type" : 2,
"last_written" : 1365101364
}
}
}
svn rev 5356
K.O. |
10 May 2013, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, mhttpd JSON support
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> odbedit can now save ODB in JSON-formatted files.
> Added functions:
> INT EXPRT db_save_json(HNDLE hDB, HNDLE hKey, const char *file_name);
> INT EXPRT db_copy_json(HNDLE hDB, HNDLE hKey, char **buffer, int *buffer_size, int *buffer_end, int save_keys, int follow_links);
>
Added JSON encoding format to Javascript ODBCopy() ("jcopy"). Use format="json", Javascript example updated with an example example.
Also updated db_copy_json():
- always return NUL-terminated string
- "save_keys" values: 0 - do not save any KEY data, 1 - save all KEY data, 2 - save only KEY.last_written
odb.c, mhttpd.cxx, example.html
svn rev 5362
K.O. |
17 May 2013, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, mhttpd JSON-P support
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>
> Added JSON encoding format to Javascript ODBCopy(path,format) ("jcopy"). Use format="json", Javascript example updated with an example example.
>
More ODBCopy() expansion: format="json-p" returns data suitable for JSON-P ("script tag") messaging.
Also implemented multiple-paths for "jcopy" (similar to "jget"/ODBMGet()). An example ODBMCopy(paths,callback,format) is present in example.html (will move to mhttpd.js).
Added JSON encoding options:
- format="json-nokeys" will omit all KEY information except for "last_written"
- "json-nokeys-nolastwritten" will also omit "last_written"
- "json-nofollowlinks" will return ODB symlink KEYs instead of following them (ODBGet/ODBMGet always follows symlinks)
- "json-p" adds JSON-P encapsulation
All these JSON format options can be used at the same time, i.e. format="json-p-nofollowlinks"
To see how it all works, please look at examples/javascript1/example.html.
The new code seems to be functional enough, but it is still work in progress and there are a few problems:
- ODBMCopy() using the "xml" format returns gibberish (the MIDAS XML encoder has to be told to omit the <?xml> header)
- example.html does not actually parse any of the XML data, so we do not know if XML encoding is okey
- JSON encoding has an extra layer of objects (variables.Variables.foo instead of variables.foo)
- ODBRpc() with JSON/JSON-P encoding not done yet.
mhttpd.cxx, example.html
svn rev 5364
K.O. |
31 May 2013, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, mhttpd JSON-P support
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> To see how it all works, please look at examples/javascript1/example.html.
>
> - JSON encoding has an extra layer of objects (variables.Variables.foo instead of variables.foo)
>
This is now fixed. See updated example.html. Current encoding looks like this:
{
"System" : {
"Clients" : {
"24885" : {
"Name/key" : { "type" : 12, "item_size" : 32, "last_written" : 1370024816 },
"Name" : "ODBEdit",
"Host/key" : { "type" : 12, "item_size" : 256, "last_written" : 1370024816 },
"Host" : "ladd03.triumf.ca",
"Hardware type/key" : { "type" : 7, "last_written" : 1370024816 },
"Hardware type" : 44,
"Server Port/key" : { "type" : 7, "last_written" : 1370024816 },
"Server Port" : 52539
}
},
"Tmp" : {
...
odb.c, example.html
svn rev 5368
K.O. |
27 Sep 2013, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, ODB JSON support
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> odbedit can now save ODB in JSON-formatted files.
>
> JSON encoding implementation follows specifications at:
> http://json.org/
>
> The result passes validation by:
> http://jsonlint.com/
>
A bug was reported in my JSON ODB encoder: NaN values are not encoded correctly. A quick review found this:
1) the authors of JSON smoked some bad mushrooms and specifically disallowed NaN and Inf values for floating point numbers:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4627
2) most JSON encoders and decoders do reasonable and unreasonable things with NaN and Inf values. The worst ones encode them as zero. More bad
mushrooms.
There is a quick survey at: http://lavag.org/topic/16217-cr-json-labview/?p=99058
<pre>
Some Javascript engines allow it since it is valid Javascript but not valid Json however there is no concensus.
cmj-JSON4Lua: raw tostring() output (invalid JSON).
dkjson: 'null' (like in the original JSON-implementation).
Fleece: NaN is 0.0000, freezes on +/-Inf.
jf-JSON: NaN is 'null', Inf is 1e+9999 (the encode_pretty function still outputs raw tostring()).
Lua-Yajl: NaN is -0, Inf is 1e+666.
mp-CJSON: raises invalid JSON error by default, but runtime configurable ('null' or Nan/Inf).
nm-luajsonlib: 'null' (like in the original JSON-implementation).
sb-Json: raw tostring() output (invalid JSON).
th-LuaJSON: JavaScript? constants: NaN is 'NaN', Inf is 'Infinity' (this is valid JavaScript?, but invalid JSON).
</pre>
For the MIDAS JSON encoder (and decoder) I have several choices:
a) encode NaN and Inf using the printf("%f") encoding (as strings, making it valid JSON)
b) encode NaN and Inf as strings using the Javascript special values: "NaN", "Infinity" and "-Infinity", see
http://www.w3schools.com/jsref/jsref_positive_infinity.asp
I note that the Python JSON encoder does (b), see section 18.2.3.3 at http://docs.python.org/2/library/json.html
In either case, behaviour of the JSON decoder on the Javascript side needs to be tested. (Silent conversion to value of zero is not acceptable).
If anybody has an suggestion on this, please let me know.
P.S. If you do not know all about NaN, Inf, "-0" and other floating point funnies, please read: https://www.ualberta.ca/~kbeach/phys420_580_2010/docs/ACM-Goldberg.pdf
P.P.S. If you ever used the type "float" or "double", used the "/" operator or the function "sqrt()" you also should read that reference.
K.O. |
09 Oct 2013, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, ODB JSON support
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> > odbedit can now save ODB in JSON-formatted files.
> A bug was reported in my JSON ODB encoder: NaN values are not encoded correctly.
Tested the browser-builtin JSON.stringify() function in google-chrome, firefox, safari, opera:
everybody encodes numeric values NaN and Inf as JSON value [null].
To me, this clearly demonstrates a severe defect in the JSON standard and in it's Javascript implementation:
a) NaN, Inf and -Inf are valid, useful and commonly used numeric values defined by the IEEE754/854 standard (as opposed to the special value "-0", which is also defined by the standard, but is not nearly as useful)
b) they are all distinct numeric values, encoding them all into the same JSON value [null] is the same as encoding all even numbers into the JSON value [42].
c) on the decoding end, JSON value [null] is decoded into Javascript value [null], which works as 0 for numeric computation, so effectively NaN, Inf and -Inf are made equal to zero. A neat trick.
Note that (c) - NaN, Inf is same as 0 - eventually produces incorrect numerical results by breaking the IEEE754/854 standard specification that number+NaN->NaN, number+infinity->infinity, etc.
In MIDAS we have a requirement that results be numerically correct: if an ODB value is "infinity", the corresponding web page should not show "0".
In addition we have a requirement that JSON encoding should be lossess: i.e. ODB contents encoded by JSON should decode back into the same ODB contents.
To satisfy both requirements, I now encode NaN, Inf and -Inf as JSON string values "NaN", "Infinity" and "-Infinity". (Corresponding to the respective Javascript values).
Notes:
1) this is valid JSON
2) it survives decode/encode in the browser (ODBMCopy()/JSON.parse/modify some values/JSON.stringify/ODBMPaste() does not destroy these special values)
3) it is numerically correct for "NaN" values (Javascript [1+"NaN"] -> NaN)
4) it fails in an obvious way for Inf and -Inf values (Javascript [1+"Infinity"] is NaN instead of Infinity).
https://bitbucket.org/tmidas/midas/commits/82dd203cc95dacb6ec9c0a24bc97ffd45bb58427
K.O. |
17 Mar 2014, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, ODB JSON support
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> > > odbedit can now save ODB in JSON-formatted files.
> encode NaN, Inf and -Inf as JSON string values "NaN", "Infinity" and "-Infinity". (Corresponding to the respective Javascript values).
A new standard just came out - Oasis OData JSON format 4.0 -
http://docs.oasis-open.org/odata/odata-json-format/v4.0/os/odata-json-format-v4.0-os.html
Section 7.1 reads:
> Values of types [...] Edm.Single, Edm.Double, and Edm.Decimal are represented as JSON numbers, except for NaN, INF, and –INF which are represented as strings.
This is consistent with what we do in MIDAS - encode special numbers as strings. For now I think we stay with Javascript-standard "Infinity", "-Infinity",
but if more standards start using "INF", "-INF", maybe we will switch. It is easy enough to support both encodings in the JSON parser and in the ODB decoder.
https://xkcd.com/927/
K.O. |
12 Apr 2022, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, ODB JSON support
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> > > > odbedit can now save ODB in JSON-formatted files.
> > encode NaN, Inf and -Inf as JSON string values "NaN", "Infinity" and "-Infinity". (Corresponding to the respective Javascript values).
> http://docs.oasis-open.org/odata/odata-json-format/v4.0/os/odata-json-format-v4.0-os.html
> > Values of types [...] Edm.Single, Edm.Double, and Edm.Decimal are represented as JSON numbers,
> except for NaN, INF, and –INF which are represented as strings "NaN", "INF" and "-INF".
> https://xkcd.com/927/
Per xkcd, there is a new json standard "json5". In addition to other things, numeric
values NaN, +Infinity and -Infinity are encoded as literals NaN, Infinity and -Infinity (without quotes):
https://spec.json5.org/#numbers
Good discussion of this mess here:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1423081/json-left-out-infinity-and-nan-json-status-in-ecmascript
K.O. |
13 Apr 2022, Stefan Ritt, Info, ODB JSON support
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> Per xkcd, there is a new json standard "json5". In addition to other things, numeric
> values NaN, +Infinity and -Infinity are encoded as literals NaN, Infinity and -Infinity (without quotes):
> https://spec.json5.org/#numbers
Just for curiosity: Is this implemented by the midas json library now? |
13 Apr 2022, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, ODB JSON support
|
> > Per xkcd, there is a new json standard "json5". In addition to other things, numeric
> > values NaN, +Infinity and -Infinity are encoded as literals NaN, Infinity and -Infinity (without quotes):
> > https://spec.json5.org/#numbers
>
> Just for curiosity: Is this implemented by the midas json library now?
MIDAS encodes NaN, Infinity and -Infinity as javascript compatible "NaN", "Infinity" and "-Infinity",
this encoding is popular with other projects and allows correct transmission of these values
from ODB to javascript. The test code for this is on the MIDAS "Example" page, scroll down
to "Test nan and inf encoding".
I think this type of encoding, using strings to encode special values, is more in the spirit of json,
compared to other approaches such as adding special literals just for a few special cases
leaving other special cases in the cold (ieee-754 specifies several different types of NaN,
you can encode them into different nan-strings, but not into the one nan-literal (need more nan-literals,
requires change to the standard and change to every json parser).
As editorial comment, it boggles my mind, what university or kindergarden these people went to
who made the biggest number, the smallest number and the imaginary number (sqrt(-1))
all equal to zero (all encoded as literal null).
K.O. |
31 Mar 2022, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Fix, "run stop" trouble in mlogger, fixed
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while debugging something else, I ran into a bit of trouble in mlogger.
I set the mlogger event limit to 100, and after reaching 100 events, mlogger
sayd "stopping run", but nothing happened, run kept going.
it turns out mlogger tried stopping the run too soon, the run-start
transition did not finish yet and the error message about trying
to stop a run while another transition is in progress was missing.
(fixed - if another transition is in progress, we try again later)
it also turns out that cm_transition() checks if another transition
is in progress way too late, all the way in the transition thread,
where it cannot return it is an error to mlogger.
(fixed - first thing done in cm_transition() is this check).
while debugging this, I tested the ODB flags "/Logger/Async transitions"
and /Logger/Multithread transitions". It turns out only two transition
types still work from inside mlogger - multithread transition
and detached transition (via the mtransition helper).
the issue is the dead lock between mlogger and frontend. while mlogger
is inside cm_transition(), it is not reading the SYSTEM buffer,
while at the same time frontends are writing into it. If SYSTEM
buffer happens to be pretty full, we dead lock - frontends are waiting
for free space in the SYSTEM buffer do not respond to RPCs, mlogger is not
reading from the SYSTEM and it stuck trying to issue "run stop" RPC
to frontend. (this dead lock is not forever, eventually frontend
is killed by RPC timeout, mlogger survives and stops the run).
this is a well known problem and as solution, mlogger has been using the
multithreaded transitions for years.
now I removed the OBD /Logger/Async transition and /Logger/Multithread
transition flags, instead, there is now a flag /Logger/Detached transitions
set to FALSE by default. Setting it to TRUE will cause mlogger to fork
"mtransition STOP" and "mtransition START" for stopping and starting runs,
this is useful in case there is trouble with multithreading in mlogger.
K.O. |
30 Mar 2022, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Fix, erroneous removal of odb clients, fixed
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commit https://bitbucket.org/tmidas/midas/commits/b1fe21445109774be3f059c2124727b414abf835
made on 2022-02-21 fixed a serious bug in ODB.
a multithread race condition against an incorrectly updated shared variable caused removal of
random clients from ODB with error message:
My client index %d in ODB is invalid: out of range 0..%d. Maybe this client was removed by a
timeout, see midas.log. Cannot continue, aborting...
the race is between db_open_database() in one program (executed when any midas program starts) and
db_get_my_client_locked() in all running midas programs.
as long as no midas programs are started (db_open_database() is not executed), this bug does not
happen.
if i.e. odbedit is executed very often, i.e. from a script, probability of hitting this bug becomes
quite high.
fixed now.
K.O. |
29 Mar 2022, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Fix, mdump can read lz4 and bz2 files now
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I converted mdump file i/o from older mdsupport library to newer midasio library
and it can now read .mid, .mid.gz, .mid.lz4 and .mid.bz2 files. Output should be
identical to what it printed before, if you see any differences, please report
them here or on bitbucket. K.O. |
29 Mar 2022, Hunter Lowe, Forum, Triggering without LAM signal - mcstd_libgpmc_camac driver
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Hello,
I have a question for anyone experienced with simple CAMAC systems.
My understanding is that for a single ADC system you can use a gate to generate a
LAM signal for triggering on ADC.
The driver that I have "mcstd_libgpmc_camac" has LAM "not implemented" though,
so I'm not sure how I should trigger DAQ. The frontend code that I have seems to use a TDC
as trigger for ADC via "EQ_POLLED" type equipment setting. Should I simply plug in TDC in my
system and use this as trigger? Is it as simple as TDC generates signal via gate and ADC performs job?
Sorry if question is super basic, just confused how to trigger without LAM signal.
Thank you :)
Hunter Lowe
UNBC Grad Physics |
12 Dec 2021, Marius Koeppel, Bug Report, Writting MIDAS Events via FPGAs
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Dear all,
in 13 Feb 2020 to 21 Feb 2020 we had a talk about how I try to create MIDAS events directly on a FPGA and
than use DMA to hand the event over to MIDAS. In the thread I also explained how I do it in my MIDAS frontend.
For testing the DAQ I created a dummy frontend which was emulating my FPGA (see attached file). The interesting code is
in the function read_stream_thread and there I just fill a array according to the 32b BANKS which are 64b aligned (more or less
the lines 306-369). And than I do:
uint32_t * dma_buf_volatile;
dma_buf_volatile = dma_buf_dummy;
copy_n(&dma_buf_volatile[0], sizeof(dma_buf_dummy)/4, pdata);
pdata+=sizeof(dma_buf_dummy);
rb_increment_wp(rbh, sizeof(dma_buf_dummy)); // in byte length
to send the data to the buffer.
This summer (Mai - July) everything was working fine but today I did not get the data into MIDAS.
I was hopping around a bit with the commits and everything was at least working until: 3921016ce6d3444e6c647cbc7840e73816564c78.
Thanks,
Marius |
26 Jan 2022, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Report, Writting MIDAS Events via FPGAs
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> today I did not get the data into MIDAS.
Any error messages printed by the frontend? any error message in midas.log? core dumps? crashes?
I do not understand what you mean by "did not get the data into midas". You create events
and send them to a midas event buffer and you do not see them there? With mdump?
Do you see this both connected locally and connected remotely through the mserver?
BTW, I see you are using the mfe.c frontend. Event data handling in mfe.c frontends
is quite convoluted and impossible to straighten out. I recommend that you use
the tmfe c++ frontend instead. Event data handling is much simplified and is easier to debug
compared to the mfe.c frontend. There is examples in the midas repository and there are
tutorials for converting frontends from mfe.c to tmfe posted in this forum here.
BTW, the commit you refer to only changed some html files, could not have affected
your data.
K.O. |
26 Jan 2022, Marius Koeppel, Bug Report, Writting MIDAS Events via FPGAs
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> Any error messages printed by the frontend? any error message in midas.log? core dumps? crashes?
> I do not understand what you mean by "did not get the data into midas". You create events
> and send them to a midas event buffer and you do not see them there? With mdump?
> Do you see this both connected locally and connected remotely through the mserver?
I simply don't see the event counter counting up and I also don't see them using mdump. No logs, no dumps and no crashes - every is quite. I only tested it locally.
> BTW, I see you are using the mfe.c frontend. Event data handling in mfe.c frontends
> is quite convoluted and impossible to straighten out. I recommend that you use
> the tmfe c++ frontend instead. Event data handling is much simplified and is easier to debug
> compared to the mfe.c frontend. There is examples in the midas repository and there are
> tutorials for converting frontends from mfe.c to tmfe posted in this forum here.
I know the code I used is really old that's why I was so surprised that it suddenly did not work. But I am on the way to change it. Also Stefan gave me some comments on how to improve the code. But still changing them did not really change the behavior.
> BTW, the commit you refer to only changed some html files, could not have affected
> your data.
I just hopped around and the commit I send was the first one which worked again. But it's of course not the one where the stuff broke. I did a bit of git-bisect and ended up with this commit as the first one where my frontend is not working anymore: 91582e4172d534bf9b10e661a423c399fd1a69f4
Cheers,
Marius |
26 Jan 2022, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Report, Writting MIDAS Events via FPGAs
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>
> > Any error messages printed by the frontend? any error message in midas.log? core dumps? crashes?
> > I do not understand what you mean by "did not get the data into midas". You create events
> > and send them to a midas event buffer and you do not see them there? With mdump?
> > Do you see this both connected locally and connected remotely through the mserver?
>
> I simply don't see the event counter counting up and I also don't see them using mdump. No logs, no dumps and no crashes - every is quite. I only tested it locally.
>
If you are connected locally (no mserver), I want to know the value returned by bm_send_event(). Simplest
if you edit mfe.c and everywhere it calls bm_send_event() and rpc_send_event(), print the returned value.
It would be very interesting to see if bm_send_event() returns 1 (SUCCESS), but the event vanishes
without a trace.
Before you do that, try something simpler:
Run "mdump -s -d", it will print some event buffer internals.
Watch to see if any data pointers change when you send your events ("wp", "rp", etc).
If nothing changes at all, then we are not sending anything (fault is in your code or on mfe.c).
If you see "wp" counting up, then we definitely write your events into the buffer and mdump & mlogger should see them.
But there is some funny logic for event_id and trigger_mask and it is worth checking their
values. For a good test, set event_id=1 and trigger_mask=0x1. There might be trouble if either is set to zero.
K.O. |
26 Jan 2022, Marius Koeppel, Bug Report, Writting MIDAS Events via FPGAs
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> If you are connected locally (no mserver), I want to know the value returned by bm_send_event(). Simplest
> if you edit mfe.c and everywhere it calls bm_send_event() and rpc_send_event(), print the returned value.
>
> It would be very interesting to see if bm_send_event() returns 1 (SUCCESS), but the event vanishes
> without a trace.
I checked bm_send_event(rbh, (EVENT_HEADER*)(&pdata[0]), 0, 20); which gives me back 1. I also check the status of rb_increment_wp which is also 1.
> Before you do that, try something simpler:
> Run "mdump -s -d", it will print some event buffer internals.
> Watch to see if any data pointers change when you send your events ("wp", "rp", etc).
"rp" & "wp" are not counting up.
> But there is some funny logic for event_id and trigger_mask and it is worth checking their
> values. For a good test, set event_id=1 and trigger_mask=0x1. There might be trouble if either is set to zero.
Changing both to 0x1 did not change the behavior.
Cheers,
Marius |
28 Jan 2022, Stefan Ritt, Bug Report, Writting MIDAS Events via FPGAs
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I finally got the dummy program working. There were several issues:
- event_buffer_size was defined as 10000 * 32 MB = 320 GB, exceeding the RAM of the computer
- SERIAL number starting with 1. Actually in midas, event serial numbers always started with zero, but this was wrong in the documentation at
https://midas.triumf.ca/MidasWiki/index.php/Event_Structure, so I also fixed the documentation
- the event header time stamp must be seconds since 1.1.1970, and thus the function ss_time() should be used to set it
- calling set_equipment_status() for each event slows down the event collection considerably, since this function access the ODB each time
- dma_buf_dummy is defined inside the event loop, so it gets allocated and de-allocated on the stack for each event. Of course this might vanish
when the real FPGA buffer will be used.
- The line pdata+=sizeof(dma_buf_dummy); is wrong. pdata is pointer to uint32_t, but the sizeof() operation returns the size of the
dma_buf_dummy in bytes. Therefore, pdata gets incremented by four times the size of dma_buf_dummy
- Instead the call to std::this_thread::sleep_for(std::chrono::milliseconds(2000)); one can call the standard midas call ss_sleep(2000); which
is a bit shorter
- Finally, sending many events to the ring buffer triggered a bug in the midas ring buffer functions which were lingering there since 2007. I'm
glad that this happened and now could be fixed. Not sure if other experiments where affected in the last decade by that. This could have
manifested itself in lost events or crashing front-ends. Anyhow, now it's fixed. You need to update midas to get the fix.
I attached a working version of the dummy program for your reference. Banks a different but the principle should become clear.
Stefan |
16 Feb 2022, Marius Koeppel, Bug Report, Writting MIDAS Events via FPGAs
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I just came back to this and started to use the dummy frontend.
Unfortunately, I have a problem during run cycles:
Starting the frontend and starting a run works fine -> seeing events with mdump and also on the web GUI.
But when I stop the run and try to start the next run the frontend is sending no events anymore.
It get stuck at line 221 (if (status == DB_TIMEOUT)).
I tried to reduce the nEvents to 1 which helped in terms of DB_TIMEOUT but still I don't get any events after I did a stop / start cycle -> no events in mdump and no events counting up at the web GUI.
If I kill the frontend in the terminal (ctrl+c) and restart it, while the run is still running, it starts to send events again.
Cheers,
Marius |
03 Mar 2022, Stefan Ritt, Bug Report, Writting MIDAS Events via FPGAs
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> Starting the frontend and starting a run works fine -> seeing events with mdump and also on the web GUI.
> But when I stop the run and try to start the next run the frontend is sending no events anymore.
> It get stuck at line 221 (if (status == DB_TIMEOUT)).
> I tried to reduce the nEvents to 1 which helped in terms of DB_TIMEOUT but still I don't get any events after I did a stop / start cycle -> no events in mdump and no events counting up at the web GUI.
> If I kill the frontend in the terminal (ctrl+c) and restart it, while the run is still running, it starts to send events again.
This problem has (likely) been fixed in the current version. Please pull develop and try again. Was a recursive call to the event collection routine which is only triggered if you send events faster than
the logger can digest, so not many people see it.
Best,
Stefan |
07 Mar 2022, Marius Koeppel, Bug Report, Writting MIDAS Events via FPGAs
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> This problem has (likely) been fixed in the current version. Please pull develop and try again. Was a recursive call to the event collection routine which is only triggered if you send events faster than
> the logger can digest, so not many people see it.
I just pulled the current version (d945fa9) but the problem as explained in 2347 stays the same.
Best,
Marius |
25 Mar 2022, Marius Koeppel, Bug Report, Writting MIDAS Events via FPGAs
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I finally found the problem why the readout stops after a run transition.
In my dummy frontend the serial number was not reset to zero at run start.
This leads to a mismatch of the serial number in the function receive_trigger_event of mfe.cxx:1247.
Which is than resulting in the problem that the function founds never a new event in all ring buffers and nothing get read out of the buffer.
Nevertheless, it would be nice that the system would tell the user that there is a mismatch in the serial number (printing a warning / error etc.).
Cheers,
Marius |
23 Mar 2022, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Fix, mhttpd bug fixed
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the mhttpd bug should be fixed now (branch feature/buffer_mutex).
simplest way to reproduce:
wget http://localhost:8080/
quickly ctrl-C it
wget http://localhost:8080/
inside mhttpd (by hook or crook) observe that the second wget got the data meant for the first wget.
if you cannot ctrl-C the first wget quickly enough, put a sleep somewhere in the worker thread (in
mongoose_write(), I think).
this is what happens.
1st wget stops (by ctrl-C), socket is closed, mongoose frees it's mg_connection object
(corresponding worker is still labouring, hmm... actually sleeping, and now has a stale nc pointer)
2nd wget starts, new socket is opened, mongoose allocates a new mg_connection object,
but malloc() gives it back the same memory we just freed(), and the 1st wget's worker thread
nc pointer is no longer stale, but points to 2nd wget's connection.
so we think we are clever and we check the socket file descriptors. but same thing
happens there, too. if 1st wget was file descriptor 7, it is closed, (1st wget worker now has
a stale file handle), then reopened for the 2nd wget, per POSIX, we get back the same
file descriptor 7. 1st wget worker now has the file handle for the 2nd wget tcp socket and
the famous test/crash for "sending data to wrong socket" is defeated.
now, worker thread for the 1st wget wants to send a reply, it has a valid nc pointer (points to 2nd wget's
mg_connection object) and a valid file descriptor (points to 2nd wget's tcp socket),
reply meant for the 1st wget is successfully sent to the 2nd wget, 2nd wget finishes, it's socket
is closed, mg_connection object is free'ed. Now the worker thread for the 2nd wget has stale
connection info, but this is okey, mongoose does not find a matching connection, 2nd wget
worked thread reply goes nowhere, thread finishes silently (no memory leaks here, I checked).
so, connection for 2nd wget completely impersonates the closed connection of 1st wget (I guess I could
check the full socket address info, remote ip address, remote port number, etc, but...)
in practice, this bug does not happen often because modern browsers tend to keep tcp sockets open
for very long time. (not sure about sundry web proxies, etc).
solution of course is very simple. match worker thread data to mongoose mg_connection objects
using our own connection sequential number, which are unique and very easy to keep track
of through the mongoose event handler. all this mess runs in the main thread,
so no locking trouble here, small blessing.
K.O. |
24 Mar 2022, Stefan Ritt, Bug Fix, mhttpd bug fixed
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> 1st wget stops (by ctrl-C), socket is closed, mongoose frees it's mg_connection object
> (corresponding worker is still labouring, hmm... actually sleeping, and now has a stale nc pointer)
>
> 2nd wget starts, new socket is opened, mongoose allocates a new mg_connection object,
> but malloc() gives it back the same memory we just freed(), and the 1st wget's worker thread
> nc pointer is no longer stale, but points to 2nd wget's connection.
Why don't we CLEAR the memory (memset(object,0,sizeof(object)) before the free(), this way it cannot be
mistakenly re-used by the next thread.
Stefan |
24 Mar 2022, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Fix, mhttpd bug fixed
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> > 1st wget stops (by ctrl-C), socket is closed, mongoose frees it's mg_connection object
> > (corresponding worker is still labouring, hmm... actually sleeping, and now has a stale nc pointer)
> >
> > 2nd wget starts, new socket is opened, mongoose allocates a new mg_connection object,
> > but malloc() gives it back the same memory we just freed(), and the 1st wget's worker thread
> > nc pointer is no longer stale, but points to 2nd wget's connection.
>
> Why don't we CLEAR the memory (memset(object,0,sizeof(object)) before the free(), this way it cannot be
> mistakenly re-used by the next thread.
>
My description was unclear. I will try better now.
When http replies are generated by worker threads, matching of reply to mg_connection is done
by checking the address of the mg_connection object. (mongoose itself unhelpfully offers
to send the reply to every mg_connection, see the responder to mg_broadcast() messages).
This works for open/active connections, addresses of all mg_connections are unique.
But if connection is closed and a new connection is opened, the address is reused (by malloc()/free()
reusing memory blocks or by mongoose using a pool of mg_connection objects, does not matter).
So matching http reply to mg_connection using only address of mg_connection can match the wrong connection.
(contents of mg_connection object does not matter, only address is used by matching. so memzero() of
mg_connection object does not help).
I saw this during my testing - wrong data was sent to wrong browser often enough - but did
not understand that the above problem is happening.
Because I was unable to reliably reproduce the problem, I could not debug it. I tried to add
a check for the tcp socket file descriptor number, in case there is a straight bug or multithread race
or simple memory corruption. This replaced "we sent wrong data to wrong browser, poisoned browser
cache, confused the user" with a crash. This "fix" seemed effective at the time.
Maybe I should mention browser cache poisoning again. What happened is html pages and rpc replies
were returned as responses to load things like CSS files, these bad responses are cached by the browser
pretty much forever, so all subsequent midas pages will look wrong (bad css!) forever, until
user manually clears browser cache. reload of page did not help, restart of browser did not help (I think).
So a very bad bug.
Unfortunately, the check for file descriptor was not effective because file descriptors are also
reused. And I did see wrong data returned by mhttpd, but even more rarely. And everybody (myself
included) complained about mhttpd crashes.
Now, matching of responses to connections is done by connection sequential/serial number,
which is unique 32-bit counter. Mismatch of reply to connection should not happen again.
P.S. Latest version of the mongoose web server library does not help with this problem,
the example code for matching reply to connection in their multithread example looks bogus:
https://github.com/cesanta/mongoose/blob/master/examples/multi-threaded/main.c
K.O. |
24 Mar 2022, Stefan Ritt, Bug Fix, mhttpd bug fixed
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I see, now I understand.
As for the browser cache problem: This Chrome extension is your friend:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/clear-cache/cppjkneekbjaeellbfkmgnhonkkjfpdn?hl=en
I use it all the time I change the CSS or a JS file. Having the "Developer Tools" open in Chrome helps as well
(cache is then turned off). Firefox has similar extensions.
Stefan |
24 Mar 2022, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Fix, mhttpd bug fixed
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> As for the browser cache problem: This Chrome extension is your friend ...
for google chrome, it is easy, open the javascript debugger (left-click "inspect"),
the reload button becomes a left-click menu, one left-click option is "clear cache and reload".
(there is no button for "clear cookies and reload", re recent elog cookie problem).
but this does not help me personally any. if midas web pages get confused, I will also get confused, too,
and I will spend hours debugging mhttpd before thinking "hmm... maybe I should clear the browser cache!"
not sure about firefox, safari, microsoft edge and opera. if I ever need it, I google it.
K.O. |
10 Aug 2020, Ivo Schulthess, Bug Report, data missing in runXXXXXX.mid
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Dear all
We just started our beam time at ILL and just found yesterday that for certain
settings of our detector the data is not saved into the .mid files. Running "mdump
-l 10" online we see the data coming in as they should. Nevertheless, if we run
"mdump -x runXXXXXX.mid" offline, the data file has no events and the banks are
missing. Any ideas where the data could go lost?
Thanks in advance,
Ivo |
10 Aug 2020, Stefan Ritt, Bug Report, data missing in runXXXXXX.mid
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> Dear all
>
> We just started our beam time at ILL and just found yesterday that for certain
> settings of our detector the data is not saved into the .mid files. Running "mdump
> -l 10" online we see the data coming in as they should. Nevertheless, if we run
> "mdump -x runXXXXXX.mid" offline, the data file has no events and the banks are
> missing. Any ideas where the data could go lost?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Ivo
Have you checked
/Logger/Channels/0/Settings/Event ID = -1
/Logger/Channels/0/Settings/Trigger mask = -1
If these settings are not -1, they filter the data stream for certain events and trigger
masks.
Stefan |
10 Aug 2020, Ivo Schulthess, Bug Report, data missing in runXXXXXX.mid
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> > Dear all
> >
> > We just started our beam time at ILL and just found yesterday that for certain
> > settings of our detector the data is not saved into the .mid files. Running "mdump
> > -l 10" online we see the data coming in as they should. Nevertheless, if we run
> > "mdump -x runXXXXXX.mid" offline, the data file has no events and the banks are
> > missing. Any ideas where the data could go lost?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Ivo
>
> Have you checked
>
> /Logger/Channels/0/Settings/Event ID = -1
> /Logger/Channels/0/Settings/Trigger mask = -1
>
> If these settings are not -1, they filter the data stream for certain events and trigger
> masks.
>
> Stefan
Good morning Stefan
Both set to -1. We only have one logging channel. If we run a sequence with a few runs and the
same settings, sometimes data is in the .mid file and sometimes it is not.
Best,
Ivo |
10 Aug 2020, Stefan Ritt, Bug Report, data missing in runXXXXXX.mid
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> Both set to -1. We only have one logging channel. If we run a sequence with a few runs and the
> same settings, sometimes data is in the .mid file and sometimes it is not.
Then I'm running out of ideas. Things I would check:
- Are the file sizes about the same?
- When you dump the .mid file, you do you see your bank names?
This would tell you if the events are really missing or if mdump would just not find them.
But I guess without being able to debug the system at ILL I cannot be of any more help. You are the
first one reporting such a problem, so it must have to do with your local setup.
Stefan |
10 Aug 2020, Ivo Schulthess, Bug Report, data missing in runXXXXXX.mid
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> Then I'm running out of ideas. Things I would check:
>
> - Are the file sizes about the same?
>
> - When you dump the .mid file, you do you see your bank names?
>
> This would tell you if the events are really missing or if mdump would just not find them.
>
> But I guess without being able to debug the system at ILL I cannot be of any more help. You are the
> first one reporting such a problem, so it must have to do with your local setup.
>
> Stefan
So I did a quick check. The file size is about the same (322K and 329K). When I dump the .mid I don't see
the banks. It only prints two lines with "------ Event# 0 ------" and "------ Event# 1 ------" whereas for
the file with data I get the two banks with all the data. Our online analyzer also fails to see the banks.
Is there another way to check what is in the .mid file?
Best,
Ivo |
10 Aug 2020, Stefan Ritt, Bug Report, data missing in runXXXXXX.mid
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> So I did a quick check. The file size is about the same (322K and 329K). When I dump the .mid I don't see
> the banks. It only prints two lines with "------ Event# 0 ------" and "------ Event# 1 ------" whereas for
> the file with data I get the two banks with all the data. Our online analyzer also fails to see the banks.
> Is there another way to check what is in the .mid file?
with "dump" I meant a true object dump like "hexdump -C run000001.mid". I produced a file with ADC0 and TDC0
banks (that's the example from the distribution under exampels/experiments/frontend.cxx), and I get
....
00024220 01 00 00 00 41 44 43 30 04 00 08 00 eb 06 35 04 |....ADC0......5.|
00024230 31 09 4f 06 54 44 43 30 04 00 08 00 93 04 fb 07 |1.O.TDC0........|
00024240 5c 09 88 0b 01 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 2a 0b 31 5f |\...........*.1_|
00024250 28 00 00 00 20 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 41 44 43 30 |(... .......ADC0|
00024260 04 00 08 00 c3 09 24 05 85 05 f3 06 54 44 43 30 |......$.....TDC0|
00024270 04 00 08 00 88 08 2d 03 3b 0d d6 02 01 00 00 00 |......-.;.......|
00024280 02 00 00 00 2a 0b 31 5f 28 00 00 00 20 00 00 00 |....*.1_(... ...|
00024290 01 00 00 00 41 44 43 30 04 00 08 00 a5 0a 69 09 |....ADC0......i.|
where you clearly see the ADC0 and TDC0 banks.
Stefan |
10 Aug 2020, Ivo Schulthess, Bug Report, data missing in runXXXXXX.mid
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> with "dump" I meant a true object dump like "hexdump -C run000001.mid". I produced a file with ADC0 and TDC0
> banks (that's the example from the distribution under exampels/experiments/frontend.cxx), and I get
>
> ....
> 00024220 01 00 00 00 41 44 43 30 04 00 08 00 eb 06 35 04 |....ADC0......5.|
> 00024230 31 09 4f 06 54 44 43 30 04 00 08 00 93 04 fb 07 |1.O.TDC0........|
> 00024240 5c 09 88 0b 01 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 2a 0b 31 5f |\...........*.1_|
> 00024250 28 00 00 00 20 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 41 44 43 30 |(... .......ADC0|
> 00024260 04 00 08 00 c3 09 24 05 85 05 f3 06 54 44 43 30 |......$.....TDC0|
> 00024270 04 00 08 00 88 08 2d 03 3b 0d d6 02 01 00 00 00 |......-.;.......|
> 00024280 02 00 00 00 2a 0b 31 5f 28 00 00 00 20 00 00 00 |....*.1_(... ...|
> 00024290 01 00 00 00 41 44 43 30 04 00 08 00 a5 0a 69 09 |....ADC0......i.|
>
> where you clearly see the ADC0 and TDC0 banks.
>
> Stefan
So at least I learned something new. I tried it with the hexdump and the banks are not existent in the .mid file. I
only have the ODB inside the file. The 7K difference in size is actually just about what I expect to be the data
(1792 x 4 bytes)
Best, Ivo |
10 Aug 2020, Stefan Ritt, Bug Report, data missing in runXXXXXX.mid
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Have you tried longer files? Maybe a few 100 MB or so. Maybe a buffer is not flushed correctly at the end of a run. |
10 Aug 2020, Ivo Schulthess, Bug Report, data missing in runXXXXXX.mid
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> Have you tried longer files? Maybe a few 100 MB or so. Maybe a buffer is not flushed correctly at the end of a run.
Yes, I did. This 7 KB of the data bank is about the limit. If we go only 1 KB higher it seems that we save all data. In
our specific case, this is the number of time bins (256 pixels with 7 time bins results in data loss, with 8 time bins it
seems to be okay, data type is DWORD).
Of course, a workaround for us is to save at least 8 time bins and throw 7 of them away later on. Nevertheless, since we
are only in the commissioning phase now this is okay, I would just like to avoid data loss in the data taking phase of the
experiment so knowing where the problem origins could help.
I did another test with another FE running that produces a lot of data. The behavior is the same though. If the bank size
is less than about 8 KB, the bank is not saved anymore. But probably this is anyway the expected behavior since it is a
different FE that produces the data.
So if it is coming from the buffer, is there something I could change to test or solve the problem?
Best, Ivo |
10 Aug 2020, Stefan Ritt, Bug Report, data missing in runXXXXXX.mid
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I have to reproduce the problem to fix it. Why don't you go and modify midas/examples/experiment/frontend.cxx in such a way that
it creates exactly the banks you have, just with random data. If you see the same problem, send me your frontend file so that I
can reproduce it. |
11 Aug 2020, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Report, data missing in runXXXXXX.mid
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> I have to reproduce the problem to fix it. Why don't you go and modify midas/examples/experiment/frontend.cxx in such a way that
> it creates exactly the banks you have, just with random data. If you see the same problem, send me your frontend file so that I
> can reproduce it.
It would be good to pin point there the data is lost. This is the sequence:
frontend user code -> mfe.c code -> SYSTEM buffer -> mlogger -> disk
To see if correct data arrives to the SYSTEM buffer, run:
mdump -z SYSTEM
To see if mlogger is receiving events from the SYSTEM buffer, run:
mlogger -v ### mlogger should report all events, history and data
To see if mlogger writes events to disk, examine the disk file (in this case, you already did, data is not there).
I would guess that your data does not make it out from the frontend (mdump shows "nothing"),
if data were to arrive into the SYSTEM buffer, it would make it to disk, unless
mlogger is misconfigured (but you already checked that).
If you have trouble with the frontend framework code, you can try to switch from the mfe.c frontend
to the newer c++ tmfe frontend (see progs/fetest_tmfe.cxx and progs/fetest_tmfe_thread.cxx).
K.O. |
11 Aug 2020, Ivo Schulthess, Bug Report, data missing in runXXXXXX.mid
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> It would be good to pin point there the data is lost. This is the sequence:
>
> frontend user code -> mfe.c code -> SYSTEM buffer -> mlogger -> disk
>
> To see if correct data arrives to the SYSTEM buffer, run:
> mdump -z SYSTEM
>
> To see if mlogger is receiving events from the SYSTEM buffer, run:
> mlogger -v ### mlogger should report all events, history and data
>
> To see if mlogger writes events to disk, examine the disk file (in this case, you already did, data is not there).
>
> I would guess that your data does not make it out from the frontend (mdump shows "nothing"),
> if data were to arrive into the SYSTEM buffer, it would make it to disk, unless
> mlogger is misconfigured (but you already checked that).
>
> If you have trouble with the frontend framework code, you can try to switch from the mfe.c frontend
> to the newer c++ tmfe frontend (see progs/fetest_tmfe.cxx and progs/fetest_tmfe_thread.cxx).
>
> K.O.
Good evening
I tried to reproduce the behavior in a very simple FE but it did not work out. The next thing for me would be to take the FE that is producing this behavior, replace all the device communication and data with dummies. If the problem is still there I would start to simplify as much as possible.
Following the inputs of KO, I pin-pointed the data loss. The system buffer still gets the data but the mlogger does not write the data event. Then of course the data is also not anymore present in the data file. Therefore, I checked the logger settings again, Event ID and Trigger Mask still -1. Nothing else, at least from my point of view, that is misconfigured. Nevertheless, if it helps I can send my ODB settings.
When doing the tests just before I found something else that probably can give a hint to the problem. The data is only lost if the time between two runs is long (a few seconds). As an example: If I run a sequence with a loop and after the FE stops the run the loop ends and the next run is started automatically, then only the first run has no data, which is the one after a longer time of no data taking. When I add a "WAIT Seconds 5" after the run before starting the next, not data is written to the disk for any run. I also found this once when adding a sleep(1) at the end of the FE readout function but back then did not think about it any further.
Best, Ivo |
24 Mar 2022, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Report, data missing in runXXXXXX.mid
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> > It would be good to pin point there the data is lost. This is the sequence:
> >
> > frontend user code -> mfe.c code -> SYSTEM buffer -> mlogger -> disk
> >
> > To see if correct data arrives to the SYSTEM buffer, run:
> > mdump -z SYSTEM
> >
> > To see if mlogger is receiving events from the SYSTEM buffer, run:
> > mlogger -v ### mlogger should report all events, history and data
> >
> > To see if mlogger writes events to disk, examine the disk file (in this case, you already did, data is not there).
> >
> > I would guess that your data does not make it out from the frontend (mdump shows "nothing"),
> > if data were to arrive into the SYSTEM buffer, it would make it to disk, unless
> > mlogger is misconfigured (but you already checked that).
> >
> > If you have trouble with the frontend framework code, you can try to switch from the mfe.c frontend
> > to the newer c++ tmfe frontend (see progs/fetest_tmfe.cxx and progs/fetest_tmfe_thread.cxx).
> >
> > K.O.
>
> Good evening
>
> I tried to reproduce the behavior in a very simple FE but it did not work out.
> The next thing for me would be to take the FE that is producing this behavior,
> replace all the device communication and data with dummies. If the problem is still
> there I would start to simplify as much as possible.
>
> Following the inputs of KO, I pin-pointed the data loss. The system buffer still
> gets the data but the mlogger does not write the data event. Then of course the data
> is also not anymore present in the data file. Therefore, I checked the logger
> settings again, Event ID and Trigger Mask still -1. Nothing else, at least from my point of view,
> that is misconfigured. Nevertheless, if it helps I can send my ODB settings.
>
> When doing the tests just before I found something else that probably
> can give a hint to the problem. The data is only lost if the time between
> two runs is long (a few seconds). As an example: If I run a sequence with a loop
> and after the FE stops the run the loop ends and the next run is started automatically,
> then only the first run has no data, which is the one after a longer time of
> no data taking. When I add a "WAIT Seconds 5" after the run before starting
> the next, not data is written to the disk for any run. I also found this
> once when adding a sleep(1) at the end of the FE readout function
> but back then did not think about it any further.
>
Looks like this problem fell into the covid crack.
As far as I know, MIDAS does not lose any events between bm_send_event() and the shared memory
buffer. It does not lose any events in the mlogger (unless the "event request" is misconfigured).
(there is lots of opportunity to lose events in complicated frontends).
If you have some evidence otherwise, I would very much like to hear about
it and I want to fix all problems that cause it.
In your previous report I was under the impression that you lose random events here and there,
but your latest report is about mlogger not writing anything at all.
Which case is it?
If you can definitely say that all your events make it to the SYSTEM buffer
but mlogger sometimes does not see some of them and sometimes does not see all of them,
we should look very closely at bm_receive_event() and mlogger itself.
In the case where mlogger is not seeing any events at all (output file is empty), as this is
happening, I would like to see the output of mdump (to confirm events are written to SYSTEM
buffer with correct event_id and trigger_mask) and the output of (say)
"manalyzer_test.exe --dump run01161.mid.lz4" on your output file.
If the output is very long, you can email it to me directly instead of posting it here.
K.O. |
24 Mar 2022, Stefan Ritt, Bug Report, data missing in runXXXXXX.mid
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One idea: we should have a look at mlogger::close_channels(). There the SYSTEM buffer is emptied through the cm_yield() call. Instrumenting this with some debugging code will enlighten us.
Another possible problem: If the frontend requested to be notified for a run stop AFTER the logger, then the problem might happen: Logger closes file, and THEN the frontend flushes events ending up in the SYSTEM buffer and being logged at the beginning of the next run. The mfe.cxx framework takes care of this by calling
cm_register_transition(TR_SOP, 500);
while the mlogger does
cm_register_transition(TR_STOP, tr_stop, 800);
and since 800 > 500 the logger will be called AFTER the frontend. If one use a framework different from mfe.cxx, this could however be different.
Stefan |
24 Mar 2022, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Report, data missing in runXXXXXX.mid
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> One idea: we should have a look at mlogger::close_channels().
> There the SYSTEM buffer is emptied through the cm_yield() call.
> Instrumenting this with some debugging code will enlighten us.
right. this will "last few events are lost at the end of run".
but that code in the mlogger was not touched in years, if there is a problem there,
we would have seen it by now, most experiments check that the number
of events in the data file is same as number of triggers generated, both
numbers are shown on the midas status page.
> Another possible problem: If the frontend requested to be notified for a run stop AFTER the logger, then the problem might happen: Logger closes file, and THEN the frontend flushes events ending up in the SYSTEM buffer and being logged at the beginning of the next run. The mfe.cxx framework takes care of this by calling
> cm_register_transition(TR_STOP, 500);
default sequence, both mfe.c frontend and c++ tmfe frontend:
start of run:
- mlogger first (configure history, open data file)
- frontends last
- (if any frontend fails, TR_STARTABORT is sent to mlogger to close the output file and "undo" the run start)
end of run:
- frontends first (must not send any events after after processing the TR_STOP RPC call, inside the TR_STOP handler, bm_flush_cache() takes care of the write cache)
- mlogger last
- (if any frontend fails, failure is ignored, run stops regardless)
wrong order will be only if they manually change it, and whatever order
they set, you see it on the midas transition page (and mtransition -v and odbedit stop now -v, etc).
K.O. |
22 Mar 2022, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Fix, fix for event buffer corruption in bm_flush_cache()
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multithreaded frontends have an unusual event buffer corruption if the write
cache is enabled. For a long time now I had to disable the write cache on
all multithreaded frontends in alpha-g, I was hitting this bug quite often.
(somehow I do not see this problem reported on bitbucket!)
last week I reworked the multithread locking of event buffers, in hope
that this bug will turn up, but nope, all mutexes and locking look okey,
except for a number of unrelated problems (races against bm_close_buffer()
were the most troublesome to fix).
but finally found the trouble.
first, some background.
because multiprocess locking is expensive, frontends that generate
a large number of small events can use the write cache to reduce
this overhead. instead of locking the shared memory event buffer for
each event, events are accumulated in the write cache, and periodic
calls to bm_flush_buffer() flush them to shared memory. For best effect,
one should increase the size of the write cache until lock rate is around
10/second.
it turns out introduction of multithreading broke bm_flush_cache().
it does this:
- int ask_free = pbuf->wp; // how much data we have in the write cache now
- call bm_wait_for_free_space(ask_free); // ensure we have this much free shared
memory space
- copy pbuf->wp worth if events to shared memory
looks okey at first sight. this is what happens to trigger the bug:
- int ask_free = pbuf->wp; // ok
- call bm_wait_for_free_space(ask_free); // ok, but if shared memory is full, it
will go to sleep waiting for free space
- in the mean time, another thread calls bm_send_event(), this adds more data to
the write cache, moves pbuf->wp
- bm_wait_for_free_space() eventually returns
- copy pbuf->wp worth of data to shared memo KABOOM! shared memory corruption!
we just overwrote some unlucky event in shared memory: we only have "ask_free"
free bytes available, but pbuf->wp moved and now has more data,
and it does not fit, and there is no check against it.
of course in the single threaded world this bug did not exist, there was no
other thread to call bm_send_event() while bm_flush_cache() is sleeping.
the obvious fix is to ask for more free space if cached data does not fit.
this is now implemented on the branch feature/buffer_mutex. after a bit more
tested I will merge it into develop.
so that's it?
not so fast. there was more going on. as described, the bug will only happen
when shared memory event buffer is full. (i.e. rarely or never). It turns
out the old version of thread locking code was defective and permitted
a race between bm_send_event() and bm_send_event() in another thread:
thread 1: while (1) { bm_send_event(very small event); }
thread 2:
-> bm_send_event(very big event)
-> no space in the cache for the very big event, call bm_flush_cache()
-> bm_flush_cache() asks bm_wait_for_free_space() to make space for cached data
-> this was done with write cache mutex released (mistake!)
-> at the same time bm_send_event(very small event) added 1 more small event to
the cache
-> back in bm_flush_cache() write cache mutex is locked correctly, we copy
cached data to shared memory and again KABOOM because we now have more data than
we asked free space for.
So in the original implementation, corruption was possible even when share
memory event buffer was pretty much empty.
The reworked locking code closed that loop hole - bm_flush_cache() is now
called with write cache locked, and bm_send_event() from another thread
cannot confuse things, unless shared memory buffer is full and we go to
sleep inside bm_wait_for_free_space(). And this is now fixed, too.
K.O. |
22 Mar 2022, Stefan Ritt, Bug Fix, fix for event buffer corruption in bm_flush_cache()
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Thanks Konstantin for your detailed description.
I wonder why we never saw this problem at PSI. Here is the reason: In multil-threaded environments, we never call bm_send_event() directly
from all threads (since in the old days nothing was thread safe in midas). Instead, we use a collector thread which gets all events via the
rb_xxx functions from the individual readout threads. This is well integrated into the mfe.cxx framework. Look at examples/mtfe/mfte.cxx.
Each thread does (simplified):
while (true) {
do {
status = rb_get_wp(&pevent);
} while (status == DB_TIMEOUT)
bm_compose_event_threadsafe(pevent, ..., &serial_number);
bk_init32(pevent+1);
... fill event ...
bk_close(pevent)
rb_increment_wp(sizeof(EVENT_HEADER) + pevent->data_size);
}
The framework now collects all these events in receive_trigger_event() which runs in the main thread:
for (i=0 ; i<n_thread ; i++) {
rb_get_rp(i, pevent);
if (pevent->serial_number == prev_serial+1)
break;
}
prev_serial = pevent->serial_number;
rpc_send_event(pevent);
rb_increment_rp(sizeof(EVENT_HEADER) + pevent->data_size);
This code ensures that all events are in the right sequence (before the serial numbers where mixed up) and that all events are sent only
from a single thread, so the write buffer can be used effectively without complicated multi-thread locks.
This solution works nicely at PSI since many years, maybe you should put some thought to use it in your tmfe framework in Alpha-g as well
instead of struggling with all your locks.
Stefan |
23 Mar 2022, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Fix, fix for event buffer corruption in bm_flush_cache()
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I confirm, there is no problem in single-threaded programs, and
there is no problem if all bm_send_event() and bm_flush_cache() are called
from the same thread.
> ... instead of struggling with all your locks.
it is better to have midas fully thread safe. ODB has been so for a long time,
event buffer partially (except for this bug), now fully.
without that the problem still exists, because in many frontends,
bm_flush_buffer() is called from the main thread, and will race
against the "bm_send_event() thread". Of course you can do
everything on the main thread, but this opens you to RPC timeouts
during run transitions (if you sleep in bm_wait_for_free_space()).
also the SYSMSG buffer is subject to the same bug. cm_msg() is of course
safe to call from anywhere, but cm_msg_flush_buffer() and cm_periodic_tasks()
can be called from any thread, and they issue bm_send_event(SYSMSG),
and there will be mysterious crashes and SYSMSG corruptions, probably
only during message storms, but still!
K.O. |
24 Mar 2022, Stefan Ritt, Bug Fix, fix for event buffer corruption in bm_flush_cache()
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> > ... instead of struggling with all your locks.
>
> it is better to have midas fully thread safe. ODB has been so for a long time,
> event buffer partially (except for this bug), now fully.
>
> without that the problem still exists, because in many frontends,
> bm_flush_buffer() is called from the main thread, and will race
> against the "bm_send_event() thread". Of course you can do
> everything on the main thread, but this opens you to RPC timeouts
> during run transitions (if you sleep in bm_wait_for_free_space()).
Just for the record: in the mfe.cxx framework both bm_send_event() and
bm_flush_buffer() are called from the main thread, as can be seen in the
midas/examples/mtfe/mtfe.cxx example.
But I agree that having all buffer operations thread safe is a clear benefit.
Stefan |
23 Mar 2022, Ivo Schulthess, Bug Fix, fix for event buffer corruption in bm_flush_cache()
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Thanks for the investigation. Back in 2020, we had some issues of losing data between the system buffer and the logger writing them to disk (https://daq00.triumf.ca/elog-midas/Midas/1966). This was polled equipment but we had a multithreaded FE running at the same time. Could this be related to the same problem?
Best, Ivo |
24 Mar 2022, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Fix, fix for event buffer corruption in bm_flush_cache()
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> Thanks for the investigation. Back in 2020, we had some issues
> of losing data between the system buffer and the logger writing them
> to disk (https://daq00.triumf.ca/elog-midas/Midas/1966). This was polled equipment
> but we had a multithreaded FE running at the same time. Could this be related to the same problem?
I think we will have to follow up on your problem 1966 separately.
I think this bug cannot lose events. Writing events to the write cache has correct
locking, no loss here. writing write cache to shared memory has correct locking,
no loss there. the bug will cause the *next* event in the event buffer to be overwritten,
this will be detected by most programs as shared memory corruption and everybody
will quit. (mhttpd, mserver, odbedit will probably survive).
I guess there could be unlucky corruption that looks like nothing was corrupted,
but this will affect only a few events right at the shared memory read/write
pointer, it so happens that they are the oldest events in the buffer and likely
mlogger already wrote them to disk. mlogger read pointer will likely follow
the shared memory write pointer closely, well ahead of the shared memory
read pointer which always pointe to the older event and where this bug's corruption
will happen.
So no, I do not think this bug can cause event loss between frontend and mlogger.
K.O. |
23 Mar 2022, Hunter Lowe, Forum, ODB has issue with example analyzer
|
Trying to play with midas file but I get error:
[Analyzer,ERROR] [odb.cxx:845:db_validate_name,ERROR] Invalid name "/Analyzer/Tests/low_sum/Rate [Hz]" passed to db_create_key_wlocked: should not contain "["
I'm not sure what sets the name so I'm not sure how to fix this.
Thanks |
15 Mar 2022, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Fix, mhttpd ipv6 bind should be fixed now
|
Something changed after my initial implementation of ipv6 in mhttpd
and listening to ipv6 http/https connections was broken.
It turns out, I do not need to listen to both ipv4 and ipv6 sockets,
it is sufficient to listen to just ipv6. ipv4 connections will also
magically work. see linux kernel "bindv6only" sysctl setting: https://sysctl-
explorer.net/net/ipv6/bindv6only/
The specific bug in mhttpd was to bind to ipv4 socket first, subsequent bind() to ipv6 socket
fails with error "Address already in use", which is silent, not reported by the mongoose library.
For reasons unknown, this does not happen to bind() to "localhost" aka ipv6 "::1".
Apparently other web servers (apache, nginx) are/were also affected by this problem.
https://chrisjean.com/fix-nginx-emerg-bind-to-80-failed-98-address-already-in-use/
First fix was to bind to ipv6 first (success) and to ipv4 second (fails). Second fix
committed to git is to only listen to ipv6.
This works both on MacOS and on Linux. Linux reports the listener socket is "tcp6", MacOS reports
the listener socket as "tcp46":
4ed0:javascript1 olchansk$ netstat -an | grep 808 | grep LISTEN
tcp46 0 0 *.8081 *.* LISTEN
tcp6 0 0 ::1.8080 *.* LISTEN
tcp4 0 0 127.0.0.1.8080 *.* LISTEN
4ed0:javascript1 olchansk$
K.O. |
23 Mar 2022, Konstantin Olchanski, Bug Fix, mhttpd ipv6 bind should be fixed now
|
> Something changed after my initial implementation of ipv6 in mhttpd
> and listening to ipv6 http/https connections was broken.
Reporting that mhttpd ipv6 works at CERN. The hostnames for ipv6 connections
come back as alphacpc05.ipv6.cern.ch instead of alphacpc05.cern.ch
so both are added to the http "insecure port" whitelist.
K.O. |
10 Mar 2022, Gennaro Tortone, Bug Report, Python ODB watch
|
Hi,
I have an issue with ODB watch on MIDAS Python library;
I wrote a simple frontend that read/write FPGA registers through
ODB keys (simplified version at link below):
https://gist.github.com/gtortone/cd035a9ac4ea7a78ea9cd931e80e2c75
Everything works fine but there is a boolean array
in Settings (Enable ADC sampling) that I need to "toggle"
(19 bit to 0 and 19 bit to 1). This operation is handled by
detailed_settings_changed_func that write the value of
toggled bit to FPGA.
The issue is that if I quickly toggle the boolean array by
odbedit:
set "/Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[0-18]" 0
set "/Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[0-18]" 1
I see in the Python script the following list of callbacks:
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[0] - new value 0
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[1] - new value 0
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[2] - new value 0
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[3] - new value 0
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[4] - new value 0
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[5] - new value 0
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[6] - new value 0
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[7] - new value 0
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[8] - new value 1 ***
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[9] - new value 1
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[10] - new value 1
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[11] - new value 1
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[12] - new value 1
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[13] - new value 1
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[14] - new value 1
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[15] - new value 1
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[16] - new value 1
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[17] - new value 1
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[18] - new value 1
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[0] - new value 1
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[1] - new value 1
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[2] - new value 1
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[3] - new value 1
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[4] - new value 1
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[5] - new value 1
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[6] - new value 1
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[7] - new value 1
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[8] - new value 1
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[9] - new value 1
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[10] - new value 1
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[11] - new value 1
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[12] - new value 1
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[13] - new value 1
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[14] - new value 1
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[15] - new value 1
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[16] - new value 1
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[17] - new value 1
detailed_settings_changed_func: /Equipment/odbtest/Settings/Enable ADC sampling[18] - new value 1
It seems that the second write operation "overlaps" the first one...
The same behavior is not observed using a 'watch' in odbedit...
I can overcame this problem using the value of register as ODB key to avoid
array of boolean... but I report this issue as "possible" bug/limitation on Python ODB watch;
Cheers,
Gennaro |
16 Mar 2022, Ben Smith, Bug Report, Python ODB watch
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> It seems that the second write operation "overlaps" the first one...
Hi Gennaro,
In principle the same issue can happen in C++ code, but is much less likely as the callbacks get executed more quickly (partly due to C++/python in general, and partly because the python code does some extra work to make the interface more user-friendly). The C++ code at the end of this message adds a 100ms sleep to the callback and can result in output like this when you do quick edits of "Test[0-19]" in odbedit.
Element 1 is 0
Element 2 is 0
Element 3 is 0
Element 4 is 0
Element 5 is 0
Element 6 is 0
Element 7 is 1
Element 8 is 1
Element 9 is 1
etc...
I agree that this can be a really nasty source of bugs if you need to react to every change. I'll add a warning to the python docstrings, but I can't think of a way to make this more robust at the midas level - I think we'd need some sort of ODB "snapshot" system...
#include "midas.h"
void watch_fn(HNDLE hDB, HNDLE hKey, int index, void *info) {
DWORD data = 0;
INT buf_size = sizeof(data);
db_get_data_index(hDB, hKey, &data, &buf_size, index, TID_DWORD);
printf("Element %d is %u\n", index, data);
ss_sleep(100);
}
int main() {
HNDLE hDB, hClient, hTestKey;
std::string host, expt;
cm_get_environment(&host, &expt);
cm_connect_experiment(host.c_str(), expt.c_str(), "test_odb", nullptr);
cm_get_experiment_database(&hDB, &hClient);
static const DWORD numValues = 20;
DWORD data[numValues] = {};
db_set_value(hDB, 0, "Test", data, sizeof(DWORD) * numValues, numValues, TID_DWORD);
db_find_key(hDB, 0, "Test", &hTestKey);
db_watch(hDB, hTestKey, watch_fn, nullptr);
printf("Press any key to exit loop...\n");
while (!ss_kbhit()) {
cm_yield(1);
}
db_unwatch_all();
db_delete_key(hDB, hTestKey, FALSE);
cm_disconnect_experiment();
return 0;
} |
21 Mar 2022, Stefan Ritt, Bug Report, Python ODB watch
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What you describe is a well-known problem with the ODB. At PSI we have similar issues. There are
two approaches to solve it:
1) Write values one-by-one to the ODB, but do not trigger a watch update. In the sequencer, this
can be achieved with the ODBSET command (see https://daq00.triumf.ca/MidasWiki/index.php/Sequencer
and the last paragraph right of the ODBSET command). You use notify=0 for all set commands except
the last one where you use notify=1. On the C++ API, you can use db_set_data_index1() which has
this notify flag as the last parameter.
2) You add intelligence to your front-end. If you get a watchdog update, you do not apply this
directly to the hardware, but put it into a FIFO. Once you do not get any more update for a certain
period (like 1s is a good value), you empty the FIFO and apply all setting immediately.
Both methods have been used at PSI successfully, although 1) is much easier to implement, especially
if you use the midas sequencer.
Stefan |
03 Mar 2022, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, manalyzer updated
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manalyzer was updated to latest version. mostly multi-threading improvements from
Joseph and myself. K.O. |
03 Mar 2022, Konstantin Olchanski, Info, zlib required, lz4 internal
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as of commit 8eb18e4ae9c57a8a802219b90d4dc218eb8fdefb, the gzip compression
library is required, not optional.
this fixes midas and manalyzer mis-build if the system gzip library
is accidentally not installed. (is there any situation where
gzip library is not installed on purpose?)
midas internal lz4 compression library was renamed to mlz4 to avoid collision
against system lz4 library (where present). lz4 files from midasio are now
used, lz4 files in midas/include and midas/src are removed.
I see that on recent versions of ubuntu we could switch to the system version
of the lz4 library. however, on centos-7 systems it is usually not present
and it still is a supported and widely used platform, so we stay
with the midas-internal library for now.
K.O. |
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